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My helim broke!!!
« on: June 24, 2012, 03:30:14 AM »
I got my new Mathews Helim a couple months ago and have been having a hard time getting it to shoot how i would like.  The other day one of the guys i was shooting with ask me after i shot if something  was broke on my bow or lose? I thought it was my rest slapping my riser. NOPE!!!!!! :bash: :bash: My lower cam was broke. The bolt that holds the cam together was broke and I'm not real sure how it was still holding together.  The bow shop i was at said its the 3rd on this month that they have heard of! I hope i get it back before the Rinheart shoot next weekend!!!

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Re: My helim broke!!!
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2012, 03:40:47 AM »
Here is a pic.

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Re: My helim broke!!!
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2012, 05:33:57 AM »
Thats what to be expected from a Matthews.  :chuckle :stirthepot: :stirthepot::

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Re: My helim broke!!!
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2012, 09:06:10 AM »
The one I shot had sp much cam lean that I'm sure it will fall to the same problem for it's eventual owner.

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Re: My helim broke!!!
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2012, 09:45:07 AM »
That what a company gets for trying to cut too many corners at the same time. Im a die hard mathews fan. However, when I first shot the Helim I couldnt believe how much felt recoil there was compared to the Z7 Extreme. IMO that was a dead giveaway that something wasnt right. Seems like they were so 100% focused on dropping a little weight here and there, that they forgot to do sufficeint product testing before release.

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Re: My helim broke!!!
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2012, 10:00:19 AM »
Man thats crappy.  Get a hoyt  :tup:
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Re: My helim broke!!!
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2012, 10:08:24 AM »
 

That what a company gets for trying to cut too many corners at the same time. Im a die hard mathews fan. However, when I first shot the Helim I couldnt believe how much felt recoil there was compared to the Z7 Extreme. IMO that was a dead giveaway that something wasnt right. Seems like they were so 100% focused on dropping a little weight here and there, that they forgot to do sufficeint product testing before release.

:yeah: less weight at some point is going to equal less strength and durability.
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Re: My helim broke!!!
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2012, 10:10:56 AM »
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Re: My helim broke!!!
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2012, 01:10:36 PM »
I guess Hoyt is cool...if you want to pay twice as much for their flagship! 

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Re: My helim broke!!!
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2012, 01:42:51 PM »
you don't always have to pay retail for a bow. I got mine off ebay for probably $300 off the new retail price.
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Re: My helim broke!!!
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2012, 04:16:52 PM »
I guess Hoyt is cool...if you want to pay twice as much for their flagship! 
i think any one of hoyts vector series are better shooting bows than the Matthews for the same price.   If you're going to get into a carbon element you will be spending a few more bucks.

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Re: My helim broke!!!
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2012, 05:14:08 PM »
Sorry to hear about the problem. I have to say I have always shot PSE and love the bows and service. I have a new Dream Season EVO and can't believe how it shoots. You might take a look at them. I have thought the Bear bows look real nice but seam expensive.

Good luck with your bow if you decide to keep it.


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Re: My helim broke!!!
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2012, 07:14:05 PM »
I also agree that cutting weight is going to lead to problems but i figured Mathews had it under controll. Now my question is..... Do you think it compromised my bow in any way? Limbs, stings, or what ever else? I'm thinking of telling them that I'm really not happy with the outcome and getting my money back. I still wont buy a Hoyt but the vector bows are ok. Maybe a bowtech is in my future.... :dunno:  Whats your guys thought about the quality after after this?

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Re: My helim broke!!!
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2012, 11:48:38 AM »
The bow will probably be fine after its fixed but it sounds like you have lost confidence in it. If that's the case get rid of it. It will never shoot right if you lost your confidence in it. :twocents:
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Re: My helim broke!!!
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2012, 09:16:02 PM »
The bow will probably be fine after its fixed but it sounds like you have lost confidence in it. If that's the case get rid of it. It will never shoot right if you lost your confidence in it. :twocents:
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Maybe see if they will take in trade for a Z7 or extreme, little heavier but also beefier.  Still an easy pull and no shock in the hand when you let the arrow fly.  I love my extreme.
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Re: My helim broke!!!
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2012, 11:44:38 PM »
Sorry to hear about that. I have owned matthews and shot them a lot. After they put out the monster I stopped owning them. I still shoot them in the shops because I try to shoot all the new bows. I have seen 2 monsters blow up when I was within 20 feet of both of them. Matthews scares me now days. I loved there older bows. switchback/q2xl etc
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Re: My helim broke!!!
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2012, 08:54:08 AM »
I was actually looking at getting the z7 i almost got it instead of the helim. I'm talking to them today so i guess we will just have to see what they say

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Re: My helim broke!!!
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2012, 01:14:13 PM »
Like my Reezen 6.5. But switched to G5 Prime this year. Should be able to find a Reezen 7.0 or 6.5 for a great deal.

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Re: My helim broke!!!
« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2012, 07:40:17 PM »
Have you ever looked at Martin I like the onza 3

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Re: My helim broke!!!
« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2012, 07:58:41 PM »
Reezen was probably Mathews biggest flop......I also like their older bows, not really caring at all for the shorter bows....lighter, shorter, faster.....the envelope has been pushed....

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Re: My helim broke!!!
« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2012, 10:58:25 PM »
Now that most companies are pushing the limits of performance, many of these issues will surface. In the evelotion of the compound bow, many bows have bit the dust in similar fashion. Many call me strange, but the last good bow mathews made was the Switchback. Even the Switchback xt didn't hold, shoot, or react as well as the original.

I'm in serious doubts Ill ever find the "one" bow that hits on all fronts for me, but I have shot several bows, different brands that I liked.

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Re: My helim broke!!!
« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2012, 01:03:41 AM »
well....... it broke again.  :yike: :bash: I was shotting the other day and my monkey tail some how slide down into my cam and cut it sending it all over hitting the walls in the range, and the speed weight just barley got into the putting a couple little marks on it. BUT THATS NOT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have a QAD drop away rest and I noticed that my arrows where hitting lower and lower.  I look things over and I can see that my rest is dropping some so i figure that my bolt must be lose. As soon as i started to tighten the bold (with now presher at all) my hole rest falls off and all the threads come out of my riser on the bolt!!! Anger doesn't even get close to how pissed i was. SOOOO  its off to mathews to have a new riser put on and i sure hope this one holds up!!

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Re: My helim broke!!!
« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2012, 03:52:27 AM »
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Re: My helim broke!!!
« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2012, 08:09:30 AM »
Sorry to hear all the misfortunes about this bow.  But IMO I have to agree with some previous statements.  After all these incidents ---  do you actually have confidence in the bow?  Would you have 100% confidence even if they gave you a brand new one from the factory?  Everyone has their personal opinion on companies, the same as Ford, Chevy, Toyota, etc, but I think you need to seriously consider the trust and confidence that you place in the company of the chosen weapon.

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Re: My helim broke!!!
« Reply #24 on: July 04, 2012, 12:56:58 AM »
When the cam did that did you check for damage on the limb from a module screw? Looks to me like the screw got loose, came out on the draw and hit the limb on release, causing the broken screw an bent cam. :dunno: Just a thought, because on the helium I HAD I started to notice a buzz after I tuned it and was shooting at the range. When I tightened it it wouldn't tighten very tight because you could feel it stripping the threads almost immediately, very soft metal, use locktite for sure.