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« Reply #50 on: October 27, 2012, 06:20:19 PM »
It just seems to me that there are no farmers that want hunters on their land that don't already have them. Why would a farmer let me hunt on his property for free, when he can get paid by another to hunt his property. I do not like asking people if I could hunt their land because they are probably tired of other hunters asking. It seems to me that it would leave bad impressions on farmers.

Kind of gone over in this thread http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,106215.0.html


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Do you think H20 fowler gets all his limits of ducks at the pheasant release sites? do you think he pays for every piece of land he hunts?

I have said nothing anywhere near this. I would never hunt ducks at a pheasant release site. There are way too many hunters, and there are better public land opportunities to hunt ducks than pheasant release sites.

Every year I come across at least one farmer that has never been asked. If you never ask you never know.

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Re: Ebey Island Duck Hunters
« Reply #51 on: October 27, 2012, 06:22:54 PM »
It just seems to me that there are no farmers that want hunters on their land that don't already have them.


with that attitude your screwed. 4phuxache you haven't talked to EVERY farmer in Western Wa.
Why would a farmer let me hunt on his property for free, when he can get paid by another to hunt his property.
thats when you get back in your car and drive to another farm. rinse and repeat.
I do not like asking people if I could hunt their land because they are probably tired of other hunters asking. It seems to me that it would leave bad impressions on farmers.
then how in the hell are you so convinced EVERY farmer won't let you hunt free of charge on his property? sounds like you gave up before you even started.
the worst thing a farmer could say is "no" and if they do chances are they already have a bad impression of hunters.


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Re: Ebey Island Duck Hunters
« Reply #52 on: October 27, 2012, 06:25:49 PM »
I would never hunt ducks at a pheasant release site. There are way too many hunters, and there are better public land opportunities to hunt ducks than pheasant release sites.

 :yeah:  You nailed it!  And the ones that do duck on them just don't get out much and are clueless to the bountiful opportunities elsewhere. So all they end up doing is bitching about how the pheasant hunters ruined their hunt or that they got shot at when in actuality they just a few few pellets rained on them :rolleyes:.
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« Reply #53 on: October 27, 2012, 06:28:25 PM »

Which leads right back to where I was. Why not let the pheasant hunters in earlier and shut it down earlier?

you want to shorten my already too short western washington pheasant season?  :'(

I think starting it early like at the beginning of Sept would be problematic for late nesting birds or fledgling birds. starting after duck season ended :dunno: would probably mess with the migration

starting august or sept would make for some pretty crappy dog work and the vets would be over run with heat stroke patients.

Why don't you head east and hunt pheasants all season? Most of the bird hunters I know have to travel why not the elitist west side release hunters.


Pen raised birds are ready to fly by august, we can hatch them dang near when ever we want.

Heat stroke? Are there that many bad dog owners? I used run my GSP's pretty hard in august and sept. In prep for long days chasing chukar and quail.

Better yet we can get the Feds to shift duck season. Like in to march, then you guys can have Oct and Nov.

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Re: Ebey Island Duck Hunters
« Reply #54 on: October 27, 2012, 06:30:51 PM »
I always let the pheasent hunters have thier time in the feild conflicts always ruin it for both sides there are plenty of waterfowl areas to use till trhe pheasents are done.

 :yeah: And most people do have that respect which in return will help all hunter types in the end.
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Re: Ebey Island Duck Hunters
« Reply #55 on: October 27, 2012, 06:32:17 PM »
It is my island  :IBCOOL:

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Re: Ebey Island Duck Hunters
« Reply #56 on: October 27, 2012, 06:41:44 PM »

Which leads right back to where I was. Why not let the pheasant hunters in earlier and shut it down earlier?

you want to shorten my already too short western washington pheasant season?  :'(

I think starting it early like at the beginning of Sept would be problematic for late nesting birds or fledgling birds. starting after duck season ended :dunno: would probably mess with the migration

starting august or sept would make for some pretty crappy dog work and the vets would be over run with heat stroke patients.

Why don't you head east and hunt pheasants all season? Most of the bird hunters I know have to travel why not the elitist west side release hunters.


Pen raised birds are ready to fly by august, we can hatch them dang near when ever we want.

Heat stroke? Are there that many bad dog owners? I used run my GSP's pretty hard in august and sept. In prep for long days chasing chukar and quail.

Better yet we can get the Feds to shift duck season. Like in to march, then you guys can have Oct and Nov.

jeez tuck in your tool. maybe I didn't drop enough smiley faces down for ya.

I was talking about wild song birds and such.

its pretty damn easy for a dog to have heat complications in temps over 60 degrees.

personally I can't head east without a great deal of cooperation from my family members, because I am the care taker for my 87 year old granmother. having a release site fifteen minutes from my home is a blessing for me. If my release site were shut down I might be able to make it east once or twice a season if the weather cooperated.

I am sure the other "elitist west side pheasant hunters" have their own reasons... besides the fact that its a long ass drive in the best of weather and the east sides pheasant population is dwindling to the point of having its own release sites.

your idea of shifting duck season will never happen, the best solution would be to find properties that ducks and the parasites that come with them don't use.
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« Reply #57 on: October 27, 2012, 07:06:33 PM »

Which leads right back to where I was. Why not let the pheasant hunters in earlier and shut it down earlier?

you want to shorten my already too short western washington pheasant season?  :'(

I think starting it early like at the beginning of Sept would be problematic for late nesting birds or fledgling birds. starting after duck season ended :dunno: would probably mess with the migration

starting august or sept would make for some pretty crappy dog work and the vets would be over run with heat stroke patients.

Why don't you head east and hunt pheasants all season? Most of the bird hunters I know have to travel why not the elitist west side release hunters.


Pen raised birds are ready to fly by august, we can hatch them dang near when ever we want.

Heat stroke? Are there that many bad dog owners? I used run my GSP's pretty hard in august and sept. In prep for long days chasing chukar and quail.

Better yet we can get the Feds to shift duck season. Like in to march, then you guys can have Oct and Nov.

jeez tuck in your tool. maybe I didn't drop enough smiley faces down for ya.

your idea of shifting duck season will never happen, the best solution would be to find properties that ducks and the parasites that come with them don't use.

Take it down a notch, I just took the other side of the argument. The exact opposite of the first two pages in fact.

 I haven't hunted a release site in almost 3 yrs. But the one down here is flooded fields hardly a good pheasant hunt lol. Just don't understand why pheasant guys get priority, especially down here as DU and WWA does all the work.....

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Re: Ebey Island Duck Hunters
« Reply #58 on: October 27, 2012, 07:13:39 PM »

Which leads right back to where I was. Why not let the pheasant hunters in earlier and shut it down earlier?

you want to shorten my already too short western washington pheasant season?  :'(

I think starting it early like at the beginning of Sept would be problematic for late nesting birds or fledgling birds. starting after duck season ended :dunno: would probably mess with the migration

starting august or sept would make for some pretty crappy dog work and the vets would be over run with heat stroke patients.

Why don't you head east and hunt pheasants all season? Most of the bird hunters I know have to travel why not the elitist west side release hunters.


Pen raised birds are ready to fly by august, we can hatch them dang near when ever we want.

Heat stroke? Are there that many bad dog owners? I used run my GSP's pretty hard in august and sept. In prep for long days chasing chukar and quail.

Better yet we can get the Feds to shift duck season. Like in to march, then you guys can have Oct and Nov.

jeez tuck in your tool. maybe I didn't drop enough smiley faces down for ya.

your idea of shifting duck season will never happen, the best solution would be to find properties that ducks and the parasites that come with them don't use.

Take it down a notch, I just took the other side of the argument. The exact opposite of the first two pages in fact.

 I haven't hunted a release site in almost 3 yrs. But the one down here is flooded fields hardly a good pheasant hunt lol. Just don't understand why pheasant guys get priority, especially down here as DU and WWA does all the work.....

I believe it was your "elitist" comment that brought me up a notch. you will find that most pheasant hunters are just like duck hunters. good hard working people that are trying their best to do the most with what little free time and money they have. to label one or the other "elitist" is not fair. you may call me an "elitist" ...because I am, so suck it. :)

do the pheasant hunters get priority over the duck hunters? if they do its only at the release site which brings us right back to the beginning of this argument.
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Re: Ebey Island Duck Hunters
« Reply #59 on: October 27, 2012, 07:31:26 PM »
It just seems to me that there are no farmers that want hunters on their land that don't already have them.


with that attitude your screwed. 4phuxache you haven't talked to EVERY farmer in Western Wa.
Why would a farmer let me hunt on his property for free, when he can get paid by another to hunt his property.
thats when you get back in your car and drive to another farm. rinse and repeat.
I do not like asking people if I could hunt their land because they are probably tired of other hunters asking. It seems to me that it would leave bad impressions on farmers.
then how in the hell are you so convinced EVERY farmer won't let you hunt free of charge on his property? sounds like you gave up before you even started.
the worst thing a farmer could say is "no" and if they do chances are they already have a bad impression of hunters.

Maybe I should start asking around. I just think that when a farmer gets asked however many times a year; it leaves a bad impression on hunters  :twocents:
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Re: Ebey Island Duck Hunters
« Reply #60 on: October 27, 2012, 07:36:42 PM »
It just seems to me that there are no farmers that want hunters on their land that don't already have them.


with that attitude your screwed. 4phuxache you haven't talked to EVERY farmer in Western Wa.
Why would a farmer let me hunt on his property for free, when he can get paid by another to hunt his property.
thats when you get back in your car and drive to another farm. rinse and repeat.
I do not like asking people if I could hunt their land because they are probably tired of other hunters asking. It seems to me that it would leave bad impressions on farmers.
then how in the hell are you so convinced EVERY farmer won't let you hunt free of charge on his property? sounds like you gave up before you even started.
the worst thing a farmer could say is "no" and if they do chances are they already have a bad impression of hunters.

Maybe I should start asking around. I just think that when a farmer gets asked however many times a year; it leaves a bad impression on hunters  :twocents:
maybe sometimes it does, probably not often. most farmers have different take on hunters from the rest of society. at the very least they will be happy you were the guy that took the trouble to  knock on the door and ask for permission... and not the guy who just went ahead and trespassed.
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Re: Ebey Island Duck Hunters
« Reply #61 on: October 27, 2012, 07:45:26 PM »
 :yeah:
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Re: Ebey Island Duck Hunters
« Reply #62 on: October 28, 2012, 09:56:23 PM »
Here is a thought.......dont just ask permission, ask what you can do in return. My family owns a good portion of that island, we lease some land for duck season and the rest is for cattle. If you are willing to help build fences, bring in hay in the summer, farm work, round-up help, etc will ensure good relations.

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Re: Ebey Island Duck Hunters
« Reply #63 on: November 01, 2012, 03:14:25 PM »
This should change up the dynamics :

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Re: Ebey Island Duck Hunters
« Reply #64 on: November 01, 2012, 03:17:17 PM »
  :yike: Well the pheasant hunters got their wish.
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Re: Ebey Island Duck Hunters
« Reply #65 on: November 01, 2012, 03:22:28 PM »
That just at Ebey Island, or all pheasant release sites?

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Re: Ebey Island Duck Hunters
« Reply #66 on: November 01, 2012, 03:29:05 PM »
  :yike: Well the pheasant hunters got their wish.

actually Kola this isn't good for either party. without closing it to duck hunting altogether its just going to create more conflicts since everyone will be using the place at the same time. granted duck hunting there now on a weekend would be the acme of foolishness...but
just because it doesn't make sense to duck hunt in a place, doesn't mean there won't be people duck hunting there.

another thing to consider is I doubt this was put up to resolve pheasant hunter and duck hunter conflicts. it was probably instituted because of neighbors complaining about the noise, which means yet another pheasant release site/duck hunting area may be taken away down the road.
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« Reply #67 on: November 01, 2012, 03:31:31 PM »
I guess. If someone still duck hunts there  :yike:
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Re: Ebey Island Duck Hunters
« Reply #68 on: November 01, 2012, 03:36:53 PM »
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Re: Ebey Island Duck Hunters
« Reply #69 on: November 01, 2012, 04:21:28 PM »
That just at Ebey Island, or all pheasant release sites?

As I posted earlier; includes Stillwater, Cherry Valley, Crescent Lake, and now Ebey Island

This will be in effect during the Western Washington Pheasant Season. For the rest of the hunting season normal hunting hours, half hour before sunrise to half hour after sunset, will apply. For more information, contact Sergeant Kim Chandler (425) 775-1311 ext. 122


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Re: Ebey Island Duck Hunters
« Reply #70 on: November 01, 2012, 05:01:23 PM »
Hopefully this will help keep duck hunters from using pheasant release sites since the best time for ducks is during the early and late closure hours anyways. If they do insist on duck hunting release sites they should atleast be required to wear hunter orange or better yet be required to purchase the $90  pheasant permit :tup: :chuckle: :twocents:
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« Reply #71 on: November 01, 2012, 05:54:43 PM »
Hopefully this will help keep duck hunters from using pheasant release sites since the best time for ducks is during the early and late closure hours anyways. If they do insist on duck hunting release sites they should atleast be required to wear hunter orange or better yet be required to purchase the $90  pheasant permit :tup: :chuckle: :twocents:
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« Reply #72 on: November 01, 2012, 06:13:15 PM »
I thought you had to own a $3000 Beretta to be an Elitest :dunno:  I'm just a cz shootin wanna bee Elitest 8)
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« Reply #73 on: November 01, 2012, 06:20:24 PM »
I thought you had to own a $3000 Beretta to be an Elitest :dunno:  I'm just a cz shootin wanna bee Elitest 8)

I wish I had a $3000 dollar Beretta. luckily Elitist is a state of mind.
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Re: Ebey Island Duck Hunters
« Reply #74 on: November 01, 2012, 06:22:49 PM »
Id support everyone wearing hunter orange.  Not that Im an elitist, I like to shoot ducks too but the hunter density is just too high for safety when some are camo-ed up and hiding in the grass.

You guys that are out there, full camo, face paint, hiding in the grass, no blind, no decoys, no call, not even near open water, youre just nuts.  :yike: :yike: :yike: Youre an accident waiting to happen.  :bdid: :bdid: :bdid: I can't think of a better way to get shot. :stup:

 

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