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Re: Patterning and shot size
« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2013, 08:13:16 AM »
Yep, it's alot more fun to see how close you can get them. Had 2 jakes walk right past my feet 2 years ago.
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Re: Patterning and shot size
« Reply #26 on: January 10, 2013, 08:14:25 AM »
I use and like the Hevi Shot 3" mag blend loads for my turkey hunting. They pattern well for me recoil is okay and the birds are dead at reasonable ranges but I also use Hevi shot #6 with great results in my gun.

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Re: Patterning and shot size
« Reply #27 on: January 10, 2013, 08:34:00 AM »
I'm not a turkey hunter, so I won't comment on how effective 4's vs 5's vs 6's.

I have shot and patterned hevi shot, lead turkey loads and various lead and steel loads.

Hevi shot always patterned tight for me.  I have killed a pheasant or two with HS #9's.  That's not a typo, #9's are no longer on the market.

The main difference I've seen between turkey loads and PREMIUM lead loads is how heavy the shot load is.  Good quality lead and turkey loads have high antimony (5%ish) making the shot harder and load for load the shot is consistently round.  All lead (or steel) is not created equal.

Shot size #6 will have about 50% more shot in it for the same weight of #4's.

Shot size is the reason steel sucks.  Everyone knows you have to move up two sizes to get the same energy.  Most people ignore that you are hitting every bird with less than 2/3 of the pellets.

If I was going turkey hunting with a kid, I might steer clear of 2 oz turkey loads and look at something like Federal Premium 1-1/4 oz of #6 shot.  Or fork out the extra $ for hevi shot #6's.  Lead 6's will break heavy wing bones.  I would not be worried about them drilling a turkey spine or skull.
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Re: Patterning and shot size
« Reply #28 on: January 10, 2013, 09:40:28 AM »
I have been using HeviShot Hevi-13#6 shot for a while and it patterns really well out of my gun. Every year at the NWTF it wins the patterning competition so that's good enough for me as far as patterning goes. I also use a Hevi turkey choke and get extremely tight patterns. My last turkey was shot with Magnum Blend and I was very happy with the results. If you pattern your gun and feel comfortable with the round, you will have success with #5 or #6 shot.

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Re: Patterning and shot size
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2013, 11:23:27 PM »
I have also had really good results with Hevi-13 and it patterns well. I have shot several turkeys with it and it works great. Hevi-13 is heavier than the lead I used to use and therefore it is lethal further out than lead. This stuff works great.

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Re: Patterning and shot size
« Reply #30 on: January 25, 2013, 09:46:49 AM »

You want to try 4, 5, & 6's to see what patterns best with your shotgun and your choke.  Three identical setups can yield different results.  In addition one manufacturer will yield better results in one shotgun while another manufacturer yields better results in another identical setup.   Try at least every 5 to 10 yards between 15 yards on until you find out what works best in your shotgun and what your effective range is ... NWTF says 6 hits minimum, but I perfer 10 - 12 as mentioned above (never depend on the "BB gods" to guide a magic pellet into the brain pan).


Spend the time doing the above and you will see the difference.  My gun loves 6's (plain old 6's...not heavy shot etc.).  Coupled with a Gobbling Thunder choke, it is instant death.  I never shoot a bird over 35 yards...ever.  Most are under 15 yards.  Turkey guns, chokes, magnum turkey loads etc., does not mean you have a long distance killing tool.  Ethics are far more important.  There is already enough of what I would equate to being sky busting types out there.  Wounded birds are wasted birds. :twocents: 
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Re: Patterning and shot size
« Reply #31 on: January 25, 2013, 02:32:00 PM »
The above is very good advice. A good pattern and the ethics to shoot only the distance that your gun preforms well at. I have shot birds with high base 12 gauge to 28 gauge high base and several different 12 ga. muzzle loading shot guns. The 28 gauge was to honor my father with his old single barrel Iver Johnson. The birds (2) were less than 15 yards and did the job but I would have liked more pellets in the neck and head. I will not use the 28 any more.  Shoot combinations of loads and shot till you find what works very well.  I often set up a 12 oz. soft drink can and if I can put 10 to 15 pellets in it I have felt I had what would work. The turkey is a very great game bird and addition to this state. I followed the introduction of turkeys in this state and was present to see the first turkeys released at the Cowlitz Steelhead Hatchery, a great memory.

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Re: Patterning and shot size
« Reply #32 on: January 25, 2013, 02:45:32 PM »
Id use a samauri sword like they do on the show "Living in Alaska"
He just chops off turkeys heads with his sword, quick humane kill!
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Re: Patterning and shot size
« Reply #33 on: January 25, 2013, 05:03:52 PM »
 :bdid:     Sorry , samauri sword isn't on this states approved list of weapons - bows and shotguns only.   :dunno:

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Re: Patterning and shot size
« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2013, 10:35:55 PM »
I would agree that the closer you can get a turkey to come in the better. But, I don't know anyone who is successful at getting their turkey to within 15 yards every time. 30 yards is even nice, but it's not always possible, especially when you hunt in an area where the birds are hunted hard. I have patterned my gun over and over and have a terrific pattern at 50 yards. I use HeviShot Hevi-13 #6 and a HeviShot choke tube. I feel confident shooting a bird at 50 yards and have done so many times without losing or wounding a single bird. It all comes down to using the best products and knowing what your gun will do.

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Re: Patterning and shot size
« Reply #35 on: February 11, 2013, 03:17:39 PM »
I shoot #5's in a 3 1/2"  but always have my third shot a #4  for a little better range if I need it.  Haven't needed to for a little under a year now.    :chuckle:


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