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New Firearms/Ammo tax bill introduced for WA State.
« on: February 06, 2013, 07:27:54 AM »
Yesterday this was introduced to the State Leg. for proofing and a vote........
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/billdocs/2013-14/Pdf/Bills/House%20Bills/1703.pdf



link fixed
« Last Edit: February 06, 2013, 08:19:32 AM by bearpaw »

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Re: New Firearms/Ammo tax bill introduced for WA State.
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2013, 07:39:02 AM »
The link is no good
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Re: New Firearms/Ammo tax bill introduced for WA State.
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2013, 07:52:48 AM »
Sorry about that, Thanks AREES for fixing it.

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Re: New Firearms/Ammo tax bill introduced for WA State.
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2013, 08:16:57 AM »
Dear Representatives Harris and Stonier,

As a voting constituent, Master Hunter, gun owner, military veteran, and Hunter Education instructor for the State of Washington, I am opposed to HB 1703, which would tax guns and ammunition in WA. This bill has been introduced, supposedly as a safety measure, in tandem with efforts across the country to exploit the recent tragedies of Sandy Hook Elementary School and the shooting at the theater in Aurora, Co., to make it more difficult for us citizens to exercise our rights under the 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution and Section 24 of the WA State Constitution.

Plenty of resources are currently available which offer hunter education and gun safety. The Scouts and the NRA offer gun safety courses, as does our Department of Fish & Wildlife in the manner of Hunter Education. Private companies also offer firearms safety and training courses. Local police will teach you safe gun handling and recommend storage techniques and free gun locks. For our state to start another program which it will need to fund and operate is redundant and unnecessary. The extremely few safety-related firearm accidents that happen each year in our state represent an incredibly tiny portion of the population and many could be prevented by enforcing existing statutes regarding firearm access to minors and safe storage of firearms.

Please join me in opposing this bill. I look forward to hearing back from you regarding your intentions. Thank you for your attention to my comments and your service to our community.
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Re: New Firearms/Ammo tax bill introduced for WA State.
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2013, 08:20:54 AM »
If someone has time to look up which committee this is in and post a copy and paste email list of all the committee members that would help immensely.
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New Firearms/Ammo tax bill introduced for WA State.
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2013, 08:21:17 AM »
Nice reply.
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Re: New Firearms/Ammo tax bill introduced for WA State.
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2013, 08:31:47 AM »
House Judiciary Committee.


jamie.pedersen@leg.wa.gov; drew.hansen@leg.wa.gov; jay.rodne@leg.wa.gov; steve.oban@leg.wa.gov; roger.goodman@leg.wa.gov; mike.hope@leg.wa.gov; laurie.jinkins@leg.wa.gov; steve.kirby@leg.wa.gov; brad.klippert@leg.wa.gov; terry.nealey@leg.wa.gov; tina.orwall@leg.wa.gov; maryhelen.roberts@leg.wa.gov; matt.shea@leg.wa.gov

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Re: New Firearms/Ammo tax bill introduced for WA State.
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Re: New Firearms/Ammo tax bill introduced for WA State.
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2013, 08:39:47 AM »
Is this for real ????????? One cent per round and $25 per gun - easy money for the state ...... :puke:
Whole forum changed to pink so I decided to go with it ......

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Re: New Firearms/Ammo tax bill introduced for WA State.
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2013, 09:28:39 AM »
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Re: New Firearms/Ammo tax bill introduced for WA State.
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2013, 09:30:08 AM »
And you thought ammo was hard to find yesterday. :chuckle:
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Re: New Firearms/Ammo tax bill introduced for WA State.
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2013, 10:18:26 AM »
The new response system is much easier to use than the old one. One place and your comments go to the places it needs to. I'd bet that the money from this fraudulent program would help build Lake Washington Bridges instead of promoting firearm safety.

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Re: New Firearms/Ammo tax bill introduced for WA State.
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2013, 10:24:25 AM »
The new response system is much easier to use than the old one. One place and your comments go to the places it needs to. I'd bet that the money from this fraudulent program would help build Lake Washington Bridges instead of promoting firearm safety.
But they are proposing a new toll for the I-90 bridge to pay for that. :chuckle:
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Re: New Firearms/Ammo tax bill introduced for WA State.
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2013, 10:33:27 AM »
nice link for comments!!
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Re: New Firearms/Ammo tax bill introduced for WA State.
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2013, 10:35:27 AM »
I'm glad i live close to Cd'A

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Re: New Firearms/Ammo tax bill introduced for WA State.
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2013, 10:42:57 AM »
Quote
having a firearm in the house also puts an abused woman at greater risk of being killed

This is a classic example of our government leaders looking to drive their agenda rather than seek effective solutions. Rather than tax ammunition and gun sales to remove the risk for these women, why not incarcerate the abusive person that poses the risk?
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Re: New Firearms/Ammo tax bill introduced for WA State.
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2013, 11:35:23 AM »
This bill has been brought up to reduce the firearm related suicide death rate. First off most of these actions are taken place by factory loaded ammo. Not hand loaded yourself. So by taxing brass casings, powder, primers, bullets, etc what will that change. It takes hours to load your own bullet as well with a lot of knowledge, for most of which don't have or haven't taken time to purchase that much supplies.Also if a person had such horrible thoughts to commit suicide do you think taxing firearms and ammo will make a difference? If the person did such an act of committing suicide I don't think he/her really cares about his/her finances on whether or not he/her spent the money. They will be deceased/dead two seconds after the round was fired. So why do they care about money spent. Quit being so ignorant and stop trying to take away bits and pieces to our second amendment. You are suppose to stand up for the constitution and you are fighting against it.
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Re: New Firearms/Ammo tax bill introduced for WA State.
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2013, 12:06:37 PM »
5 (a) Twenty-five dollars for every firearm sold at retail; or
6 (b) Fifteen dollars for every firearm sold at retail if a gun safe
7 or a gun lock is purchased at the time of sale with a firearm.


But here is the kicker, it says Top of page 4.

1 (a) "Ammunition" means cartridge cases, primers, bullets, or
2 propellant powder designed for use in any firearm.

So does that mean .01C for every primer, and bullet. Grain of powder?
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« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2013, 12:12:57 PM »
All this bologna is about to convince me to move to another "smarter and more friendly" state.
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Re: New Firearms/Ammo tax bill introduced for WA State.
« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2013, 12:24:27 PM »
All this bologna is about to convince me to move to another "smarter and more friendly" state.

Sorry, you can't.

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Re: New Firearms/Ammo tax bill introduced for WA State.
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2013, 12:25:31 PM »
For someone who does not have to live in WA for work it will start becoming more attractive to move some place else... I think WY is top of the list but is fairly expensive to live/move there. I think ID would be #2 then MT #3.  :twocents:
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Re: New Firearms/Ammo tax bill introduced for WA State.
« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2013, 12:27:01 PM »
All this bologna is about to convince me to move to another "smarter and more friendly" state.

Idaho is close, and becoming more and more appealing.   :yeah:

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Re: New Firearms/Ammo tax bill introduced for WA State.
« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2013, 12:27:22 PM »
I'm glad i live close to Cd'A
Me too.

For someone who does not have to live in WA for work it will start becoming more attractive to move some place else... I think WY is top of the list but is fairly expensive to live/move there. I think ID would be #2 then MT #3.  :twocents:
My wife and I are considering moving there as well.
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« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2013, 12:36:05 PM »
Don't they try something like this yearly?  Doubt it will make it far.  I commented on the link anyhow.

 



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