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Re: % for spring bear harvests
« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2013, 11:15:17 AM »
Yes. The biologists are the ones making all of the decisions... :dunno: Most of the biologists are guys like most of us. They love the outdoors and therefore they've dedicated their lives to working in and protecting our resources.

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Re: % for spring bear harvests
« Reply #26 on: April 01, 2013, 11:21:40 AM »
I guess I really wasn't trying to take a shot at the biologist.  Maybe it should have been the wdfw as a whole.

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Re: % for spring bear harvests
« Reply #27 on: April 01, 2013, 11:26:59 AM »
I don't think biologists have much to do with setting seasons and regulations. It seems to be based more on politics than science to me. But I could be wrong.   :dunno:

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Re: % for spring bear harvests
« Reply #28 on: April 01, 2013, 11:29:20 AM »
I don't think biologists have much to do with setting seasons and regulations. It seems to be based more on politics than science to me. But I could be wrong.   :dunno:
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Re: % for spring bear harvests
« Reply #29 on: April 01, 2013, 11:30:03 AM »
I guess I really wasn't trying to take a shot at the biologist.  Maybe it should have been the wdfw as a whole.
Sometimes biologists get overly defensive... :sry:

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Re: % for spring bear harvests
« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2013, 01:55:10 PM »
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Re: % for spring bear harvests
« Reply #31 on: April 01, 2013, 04:14:04 PM »
I guess I really wasn't trying to take a shot at the biologist.  Maybe it should have been the wdfw as a whole.

I dont know why you are taking shots on the wdfw on this issue.  They extended the seasons like we asked for with the 2 damage permit areas, its not their fault if permits aren't getting filled or not getting reported properly.  Maybe next time you draw they will give out maps to their dens.

Jerome- go back and read all the posts again. Apparently you missed something. We were talking about why the WDFW doesn't offer spring bear permits in more units. Not the fact that success rates may be low in certain units.

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Re: % for spring bear harvests
« Reply #32 on: April 01, 2013, 04:18:27 PM »
I wouldn't mind having a map to a den or two. Even I could probably screw that one up... I don't have the best of luck when it comes to bears.

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Re: % for spring bear harvests
« Reply #33 on: April 01, 2013, 05:05:26 PM »
I guess I really wasn't trying to take a shot at the biologist.  Maybe it should have been the wdfw as a whole.

I dont know why you are taking shots on the wdfw on this issue.  They extended the seasons like we asked for with the 2 damage permit areas, its not their fault if permits aren't getting filled or not getting reported properly.  Maybe next time you draw they will give out maps to their dens.

Jerome- go back and read all the posts again. Apparently you missed something. We were talking about why the WDFW doesn't offer spring bear permits in more units. Not the fact that success rates may be low in certain units.
I hope extending the season work and brings up harvest but with such a low success rate wdfw could give out 50 bear permits for each unit and it wouldn't prevent much damage.

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Re: % for spring bear harvests
« Reply #34 on: April 05, 2013, 10:54:34 AM »
The DNR told me 4 bear were killed in Monroe during the spring season. 6 in Skagit. Not nearly enough to make a difference.
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Re: % for spring bear harvests
« Reply #35 on: April 05, 2013, 11:50:37 AM »
Not enough people try. They draw a tag then realize they don't have time to hunt it, or realize they know nothing about hunting bears and go out one day don't see anything and give up. People just put in for the tags to put in, I guarantee there is a huge percentage of spring bear tags that barely get hunted. When I drew the Kapowsin I rarely saw any other rigs and there was only a small pile of slips in the little building where you were supposed to check in everyday when you entered the farm. I think a lot of hunters don't realize how time in the field can effect your success when it comes to hunting anything, as simple as it seems. I have a tag for the NE corner so I won't be able to spend as much time as I'd like, but I'll be over there as much as possible and hopefully for at least a couple 4 or 5 day weekends.

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Re: % for spring bear harvests
« Reply #36 on: April 05, 2013, 12:21:04 PM »
This is why I don't understand why they don't have spring bear permits in more units, actually in ALL units that have a reasonably good population of bears. Success rates will be low anyway, and more units and more permits available would equal more applications, and therefore more money for the state. And of course, more opportunity for hunters, which isn't that what the WDFW is all about- providing lots of hunting opportunity with little chance for success?

 :chuckle:  I agree on all points.

Because bear can be taken without baiting, its not coming back, it's socially unacceptable in this state, our masses voted it out. However, there is no biological reason to not have much more spring hunting. Success runs so low that the impact is minimal on bear populations.
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Re: % for spring bear harvests
« Reply #37 on: April 05, 2013, 12:30:13 PM »
The spring tag is not a gimme, I can tell you that! At least not in Monroe. I put in more hunting hours last year during the spring hunt than I have ever put in for any general season before that. I rarely ever saw any other hunters either. I agree, alot of people put in not knowing what they are in for. They should do their research ahead of time and not waste a permit!
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Re: % for spring bear harvests
« Reply #38 on: April 05, 2013, 12:33:10 PM »
Probably want to edit that........I think you forgot a word right there at the beginning.
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Re: % for spring bear harvests
« Reply #39 on: April 05, 2013, 12:40:31 PM »
Got it, thanks H2O, I actually forgot 2 words!
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Re: % for spring bear harvests
« Reply #40 on: April 05, 2013, 12:41:31 PM »
Not a gimmie WTF?

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Re: % for spring bear harvests
« Reply #41 on: April 05, 2013, 12:58:46 PM »
Sorry to break it to you D, but no, you wont be able to shoot one from the highway! You will have to put in some time and effort! :chuckle:

I know that you know that, but some people think the bears will just come to them. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN FOLKS!
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Re: % for spring bear harvests
« Reply #42 on: April 05, 2013, 01:02:43 PM »
But I wear a bacon thing while bear hunting.

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Re: % for spring bear harvests
« Reply #43 on: April 05, 2013, 09:53:14 PM »
The DNR told me 4 bear were killed in Monroe during the spring season. 6 in Skagit. Not nearly enough to make a difference.
No those numbers arent doing the trees any favors.  Hopefully with the 15 extra days these numbers will double and show the timber companies in these two damage units that the permit holders are getting the job done. 

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Re: % for spring bear harvests
« Reply #44 on: April 05, 2013, 10:52:35 PM »
The DNR told me 4 bear were killed in Monroe during the spring season. 6 in Skagit. Not nearly enough to make a difference.

I think the number was 9 last year for Skagit.  9 out of 20 tags.  Not a gimme hunt by any means.
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Re: % for spring bear harvests
« Reply #45 on: April 07, 2013, 06:55:00 AM »
I think if the permit holders take the hunt seriously, and that means parking the truck and putting in some boot time, the success rate will increase.
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