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Re: Antlerless moose tags?
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2013, 01:33:58 PM »
I purchased one.
I probably will to lol. I sent an email to the game department regarding this topic so hopefully they will get back to me with an answer. I'm not banking on it though. I would like to get drawn for a cow permit moose are really fun to hunt and she would look nice on the wall next to my bull. Plus they are dam good eating!
not sure what all the discussion is about. :dunno: If you have drawn a bull tag you can still apply and draw a cow tag.

It has changed this year. It was in the proposals that were out before the reg's were finalized and it pretty clearly states that you can only kill 1 moose in your lifetime unless you've harvested an antlerless moose. See my post above.
Thats exactly the way I read it to. I was just checking to see if I was missing something or if anybody had any info we were not aware of. It's stated pretty clearly right there though looks like some of us are out a few points and a little money on the antlerless hunts!
if that's the case then WDFW owes us a refund.
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Re: Antlerless moose tags?
« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2013, 01:35:15 PM »
I purchased one.
I probably will to lol. I sent an email to the game department regarding this topic so hopefully they will get back to me with an answer. I'm not banking on it though. I would like to get drawn for a cow permit moose are really fun to hunt and she would look nice on the wall next to my bull. Plus they are dam good eating!
not sure what all the discussion is about. :dunno: If you have drawn a bull tag you can still apply and draw a cow tag.

It has changed this year. It was in the proposals that were out before the reg's were finalized and it pretty clearly states that you can only kill 1 moose in your lifetime unless you've harvested an antlerless moose. See my post above.

So you are reading it as: If you have never harvested a moose and you drew a cow tag this year and filled your cow tag, then you can never harvest a bull? Is this the question you are asking?

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Re: Antlerless moose tags?
« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2013, 01:39:06 PM »
I purchased one.
I probably will to lol. I sent an email to the game department regarding this topic so hopefully they will get back to me with an answer. I'm not banking on it though. I would like to get drawn for a cow permit moose are really fun to hunt and she would look nice on the wall next to my bull. Plus they are dam good eating!
not sure what all the discussion is about. :dunno: If you have drawn a bull tag you can still apply and draw a cow tag.

It has changed this year. It was in the proposals that were out before the reg's were finalized and it pretty clearly states that you can only kill 1 moose in your lifetime unless you've harvested an antlerless moose. See my post above.

So you are reading it as: If you have never harvested a moose and you drew a cow tag this year and filled your cow tag, then you can never harvest a bull? Is this the question you are asking?

I am reading it as saying....if you have killed a cow moose, you can keep applying. If you have killed a bull, you're all done. One and done.
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Re: Antlerless moose tags?
« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2013, 01:45:34 PM »
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Re: Antlerless moose tags?
« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2013, 01:46:07 PM »
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Re: Antlerless moose tags?
« Reply #30 on: April 23, 2013, 01:48:08 PM »
I wonder if it's because they told us we could still kill a bull if we killed a cow for a couple years. Now there's guys drawing cow tags and applying for bull tags thinking they can get both. Can't go back on them now and tell them "sorry, mr. moose hunter, you already got your one and only moose and it was a cow". The guys who have killed bulls are SOL on the cow because they got their bull already.The guys that shot cows can still get their bull...not fair regardless of how you look at it but I wonder.
I wonder how long till all cow tags are eliminated.
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Re: Antlerless moose tags?
« Reply #31 on: April 23, 2013, 02:36:45 PM »
I wonder if it's because they told us we could still kill a bull if we killed a cow for a couple years. Now there's guys drawing cow tags and applying for bull tags thinking they can get both. Can't go back on them now and tell them "sorry, mr. moose hunter, you already got your one and only moose and it was a cow". The guys who have killed bulls are SOL on the cow because they got their bull already.The guys that shot cows can still get their bull...not fair regardless of how you look at it but I wonder.
I wonder how long till all cow tags are eliminated.
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Re: Antlerless moose tags?
« Reply #32 on: April 23, 2013, 03:46:08 PM »
I purchased one.

I can't believe WDFW is going to allow you the chance to harvest another antlerless moose! 

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Re: Antlerless moose tags?
« Reply #33 on: April 23, 2013, 03:53:27 PM »
I purchased one.

I can't believe WDFW is going to allow you the chance to harvest another antlerless moose!
:tup:
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Re: Antlerless moose tags?
« Reply #34 on: April 23, 2013, 03:54:24 PM »
I purchased one.

I can't believe WDFW is going to allow you the chance to harvest another antlerless moose!
:tup:

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Re: Antlerless moose tags?
« Reply #35 on: April 23, 2013, 04:00:32 PM »
I purchased one.

I can't believe WDFW is going to allow you the chance to harvest another antlerless moose!
:tup:

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Now that's some funny stuff right there!!   :chuckle:

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Re: Antlerless moose tags?
« Reply #36 on: April 23, 2013, 04:23:21 PM »
Anyone can apply for antlerless only permits even if you have harvested a bull.
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Re: Antlerless moose tags?
« Reply #37 on: April 23, 2013, 04:25:10 PM »
I purchased one.

I can't believe WDFW is going to allow you the chance to harvest another antlerless moose!
:tup:

 :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

Now that's some funny stuff right there!!   :chuckle:

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Re: Antlerless moose tags?
« Reply #38 on: April 23, 2013, 04:26:33 PM »
Anyone can apply for antlerless only permits even if you have harvested a bull.
Source?
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Re: Antlerless moose tags?
« Reply #40 on: April 23, 2013, 04:37:16 PM »
http://wdfw.wa.gov/about/regulations/development.html#12-19-007

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To me, it's still a little ambiguous, because in the proposal section, the punctuation makes it read as if the exemption is only for master hunter, raffle and auction antlerless permits, but in the WAC there is a comma instead of a colon and it reads as Bob33 stated.

They should have just put "those who have harvested a moose under an 'Any Moose' tag are not eligible to apply in that category again during their lifetime."

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Re: Antlerless moose tags?
« Reply #42 on: April 23, 2013, 05:23:10 PM »
http://wdfw.wa.gov/help/questions/322/Who+is+ineligible+to+purchase+a+special+hunt+permit+application+for+mountain+goat%2C+bighorn+sheep%2C+or+moose%3F

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If that is what is available at the time they put our the 2013 regulations, then they should go by those.  Often many State and local government agencies dont update there specifications, rules, etc on a yearly basis.  I think you are good to go! :tup:

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Re: Antlerless moose tags?
« Reply #43 on: April 23, 2013, 05:48:39 PM »
I purchased one.
I probably will to lol. I sent an email to the game department regarding this topic so hopefully they will get back to me with an answer. I'm not banking on it though. I would like to get drawn for a cow permit moose are really fun to hunt and she would look nice on the wall next to my bull. Plus they are dam good eating!
not sure what all the discussion is about. :dunno: If you have drawn a bull tag you can still apply and draw a cow tag.

It has changed this year. It was in the proposals that were out before the reg's were finalized and it pretty clearly states that you can only kill 1 moose in your lifetime unless you've harvested an antlerless moose. See my post above.

So you are reading it as: If you have never harvested a moose and you drew a cow tag this year and filled your cow tag, then you can never harvest a bull? Is this the question you are asking?

I am reading it as saying....if you have killed a cow moose, you can keep applying. If you have killed a bull, you're all done. One and done.
Essentially true. However, if you killed a bull moose with an auction or raffle permit, you may kill another.

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=232-28-273
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Antlerless moose tags?
« Reply #44 on: April 23, 2013, 06:36:40 PM »
I purchased one.
I probably will to lol. I sent an email to the game department regarding this topic so hopefully they will get back to me with an answer. I'm not banking on it though. I would like to get drawn for a cow permit moose are really fun to hunt and she would look nice on the wall next to my bull. Plus they are dam good eating!
not sure what all the discussion is about. :dunno: If you have drawn a bull tag you can still apply and draw a cow tag.

It has changed this year. It was in the proposals that were out before the reg's were finalized and it pretty clearly states that you can only kill 1 moose in your lifetime unless you've harvested an antlerless moose. See my post above.

So you are reading it as: If you have never harvested a moose and you drew a cow tag this year and filled your cow tag, then you can never harvest a bull? Is this the question you are asking?

I am reading it as saying....if you have killed a cow moose, you can keep applying. If you have killed a bull, you're all done. One and done.
Essentially true. However, if you killed a bull moose with an auction or raffle permit, you may kill another.

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=232-28-273
I'm confused. What about your other post in this thread?
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Antlerless moose tags?
« Reply #45 on: April 23, 2013, 06:37:11 PM »
Anyone can apply for antlerless only permits even if you have harvested a bull.
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Re: Antlerless moose tags?
« Reply #46 on: April 23, 2013, 06:44:12 PM »
Anyone can apply for antlerless only permits even if you have harvested a bull.
I don't understand the confusion.

If you have harvested a bull moose in Washington, you may not harvest a bull moose again unless it was killed on a raffle, auction, or master hunter permit. You may (with a valid permit) harvest an antlerless moose in an antlerless only hunt.

If you have harvested an antlerless moose in an antlerless only hunt, you may (with a valid permit) harvest another antlerless moose, or an antlered moose.
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Antlerless moose tags?
« Reply #47 on: April 23, 2013, 06:46:36 PM »
But that is not what it says in the regulations.
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Re: Antlerless moose tags?
« Reply #48 on: April 23, 2013, 06:47:12 PM »
But that is not what it says in the regulations.
I go by the WAC. What part of it is not clear?
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Re: Antlerless moose tags?
« Reply #49 on: April 23, 2013, 06:48:59 PM »
So I followed this through the rule making process and the whole concept was to make it easier to understand who could apply.  but it sounds like it made it more confusing and actually changed who could apply.  WDFW at its best....NOT
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