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Offline wolfbait

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Have WA's Veternarian's Been Silenced?
« on: July 19, 2013, 11:55:19 PM »
In the last five years I have talk to several veterinarian's about Echinocossus Granulosus and Hydatid Disease, and they always seem to run away from it. Or in some cases BS their way into "no big deal" as happened this week.

My wife and I took our dog to an Omak clinic, and afterwards I ask the vet it she had any concerns about
Echinocossus Granulosus and Hydatid Disease. She proceeded to tell me that there had been cases in Idaho, but the sheep had to have been feeding on wolf scat and they had killed all of the feral dogs. :rolleyes: I explained to her that the strain of Echinocossus Granulosus brought in with the introduction of the wolves from Alberta was different, she agreeded but then went back to her Idaho sheep story.

This afternoon she called to tell us that our dog did not have any Echinocossus Granulosus, and she also said she had been interested in what I had to say about the disease to the point she had investigated herself, and again started out with her sheep story.

To make along story short, I told her what I knew of EG and the wolf introdutcion which brought the disease in,  she agreeded, up until the end inwhich she reverted back to her sheep story.

Why are the very people who we hold responsible for our animals holding back the truth? Have they been threatend by the USFWS? It surely couldn't be the frauds at WDF&Wolves, after all they continue to be the joke of Eastern WA.

Six wolf packs confirmed in 1992? What Happened to those Wolves? Did they disappear with the Illeagal Yukon wolf Introduction? No Money-No Wolves WDFW----In Washington, Feds Opt For Wolf Introduction Over Recovery  http://www.skinnymoose.com/bbb/2010/06/08/in-washington-feds-opt-for-wolf-introduction-over-recovery/
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Re: Have WA's Veternarian's Been Silenced?
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2013, 08:55:48 AM »
How fitting that her story involves sheep.
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Re: Have WA's Veternarian's Been Silenced?
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2013, 09:16:37 AM »
Wolfbait, that article you gave the link to was a good one.  It brought up a question I've been wondering about for years now.  Why is there hardly ever a mention of the wolf recovery that happened in the early '90's?  I saw a wolf pack in 1992, so I know there were wolves in Washington back then.

My other question though, is why would WDFW need any money for wolf recovery if they are just left to recover on their own naturally?   :dunno:
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Re: Have WA's Veternarian's Been Silenced?
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2013, 12:52:07 PM »
Wolfbait, that article you gave the link to was a good one.  It brought up a question I've been wondering about for years now.  Why is there hardly ever a mention of the wolf recovery that happened in the early '90's?  I saw a wolf pack in 1992, so I know there were wolves in Washington back then.

My other question though, is why would WDFW need any money for wolf recovery if they are just left to recover on their own naturally?   :dunno:

Curly, Bone and I were working at the USFS at the same time in the early 1990's, we were both told to shut up as the wolves were planted wolves.

And like you I have questions about the first wolf pack in 70 years. WDFW will not talk about their first wolf push, and from what I have heard WDFW are now trying to claim the wolves in the 1980's were all hybrids, without DNA testing they say they could not really confirm. With those thought's in mind, it brings us back to Ed Bangs and the start of the wolf introduction. Ed said that only Wolf packs<>breeding pairs that had been monitored for three years would be considered as Wolf packs or breeding pair, all others would be ignored, and that would be their goal when discussing delisting also.
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My other question though, is why would WDFW need any money for wolf recovery if they are just left to recover on their own naturally? >>>>>>>>

I think they need money for moving wolves, they sure as hell don't confirm livestock killed by wolves nor do they care about wolves decimatining the game herds. WDFW are filled with mostly environmentalists and yes people. Yes people are people who need a pay check, if they told the truth their job would be gone. Or perhaps they need the money for their BS propaganda?

I hauled a couple of horses to Addy, out of Colville last week, Wherever I go wolves come up and just like the Okanogan they have seen wolves. Going there we went over Sherman pass and came out by Grand Coulee, and like the Methow Valley back in 2010 we saw more does with fawns along the road. Now the Methow has very few deer left and the does are fawning in peoples yards. Welcome to the end of deer hunting. Welcome to WDF&Wolves!

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Re: Have WA's Veternarian's Been Silenced?
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2013, 10:22:20 PM »
The wolves of the introduction had to be penned up in order for them to stay, and even that doesn't work sometimes. I talk to a guy on facebook who worked for the Canadian Wildlife, he said we would be shocked at how many wolves came back, and that the USFWS ended up buying many more wolves from Canada, he also said something about the USA and their stupidity.

I believe the wolves planted in WA in the 1980's and 90's headed back home or they were shot in the process. I know of a guy who worked for the state who retired in the earlly 2000, he said WDFW were hauling all the road kill they could find to a bunch of wolves above Mazama.

 In order to get wolves to stay, they need to be penned or fed long enough to get their minds made up and as the Canadian said even then some of them made it back home.

We always hear WDFW saying the wolves are moving through, I wonder if they are headed back to the Yellowstone or Idaho and home?

What's one more lie from WDFW?

 


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