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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #150 on: March 23, 2015, 06:39:44 AM »
Unfortunately male/female doesn't help us on palate size. Palate size is all over the board. I always recommend medium and if it doesn't work I'll work with you.

The palate plate is made by Primos and Bugling Bull and has a shelf above the latex. I sell the raging bull, the challenge and mellow yellow on my website and all 3 have a palate plate. 

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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #151 on: March 24, 2015, 04:52:00 AM »
Ok last questions, do the diaphragms wear out and need replacing?  Also do husband/wife combo's that order from you share or is that gross and too much info?  LOL

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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #152 on: July 02, 2015, 08:14:52 AM »
Bumping because elk season is just over 2 months away.

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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #153 on: July 02, 2015, 09:17:57 AM »
Jason, are you going to be at Schwingfest this weekend?
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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #154 on: July 02, 2015, 10:43:53 AM »
We might head down there.

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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #155 on: July 02, 2015, 11:36:55 AM »
We might head down there.
If you do you should bring a raging bull and a Dragon slayer. I'll buy them.
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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #156 on: July 02, 2015, 11:42:12 AM »
Hi Jason,
I drew the Peaches rifle bull tag so I'll be there after all the Quality, Bow, & muzzys guys. Can you PM me GPS coordinates,  :chuckle: heh heh just kidding. I've heard elk bugle during rifle season only once so figure bugling is out. Would you try bugling or only cow calls? What type of calling sequence & best diaphram? I think I can use one without spooking elk. Thanks
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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #157 on: July 02, 2015, 03:43:22 PM »
Hi Jason,
I drew the Peaches rifle bull tag so I'll be there after all the Quality, Bow, & muzzys guys. Can you PM me GPS coordinates,  :chuckle: heh heh just kidding. I've heard elk bugle during rifle season only once so figure bugling is out. Would you try bugling or only cow calls? What type of calling sequence & best diaphram? I think I can use one without spooking elk. Thanks

I have a bad memory  ;)

We had Bulls bugling in there on October 23rd in 2011. I would personally probably locate bugle if I wasn't able to spot something. Also that time of year cow calling can be productive to lure Bulls in.

Right now the boss and dragon slayer are my go to diaphragms but for cow calling the signature cow or elk commander are pretty good.

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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #158 on: July 13, 2015, 07:53:50 PM »
I have a Dayton archery bull tag and am less than stellar with a diaphragm call, despite practice. My hunting partner is pretty good with the calls and I will be depending on him for most of the calling. I am wanting a call that I can make sound right to stop a bull while I am at full draw or have both my hands on my bow. I have three mouth calls that all sound like crap or more likely I make sound like crap. Do you have a suggestion for a hands free mouth call that is pretty easy or easier to make cow sounds?

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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #159 on: July 13, 2015, 09:56:07 PM »
I have a Dayton archery bull tag and am less than stellar with a diaphragm call, despite practice. My hunting partner is pretty good with the calls and I will be depending on him for most of the calling. I am wanting a call that I can make sound right to stop a bull while I am at full draw or have both my hands on my bow. I have three mouth calls that all sound like crap or more likely I make sound like crap. Do you have a suggestion for a hands free mouth call that is pretty easy or easier to make cow sounds?

The elk commander is a very easy to use and accurate diaphragm.  :tup:

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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #160 on: July 14, 2015, 09:32:14 AM »
Jason, let's say you locate a bill you get in close, you start calling  and he is commiting. However he does not come to your shooting lane/lanes. Hes closing the distance as you realize you will not be able to get a shot. Do you risk sticking it out and hope somehow you get a shot out? Or if you back out slowly how do you go about reingaging?

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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #161 on: July 14, 2015, 12:35:42 PM »
Jason, let's say you locate a bill you get in close, you start calling  and he is commiting. However he does not come to your shooting lane/lanes. Hes closing the distance as you realize you will not be able to get a shot. Do you risk sticking it out and hope somehow you get a shot out? Or if you back out slowly how do you go about reingaging?

If I'm close enough to realize I'm not going to get a shot im going to assume he is too close for me to move. I would most likely hang tight and see what happens. Especially if the wind is good and will stay good.

I never write off a call in until the bull no longer answers me or I know he has left.

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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #162 on: July 14, 2015, 08:17:41 PM »
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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #163 on: July 22, 2015, 09:56:43 PM »
Ok I have two questions.
1. Which way do you think is best for elk hunting? Tree stand, blind, or just sittin in the woods.
2. What kind of calls should I use for each season? And would a rattling call work on elk??
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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #164 on: July 23, 2015, 09:01:27 AM »
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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #165 on: July 23, 2015, 09:12:28 AM »
Ok I have two questions.
1. Which way do you think is best for elk hunting? Tree stand, blind, or just sittin in the woods.
2. What kind of calls should I use for each season? And would a rattling call work on elk??

1)I'm a locate/ambush/caller. It may not always be the best but it is almost always exciting.  Tree stand and blind can be very effective if in the right spot. Sitting in the woods most likely won't produce very good results.

2) From about August 25th to October 15th I would use my normal calling tactics. Locating, moving in and using cow/bull sounds to call them into range.  We use a lot of stomping, breaking sticks and raking trees in our setups.


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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #166 on: July 27, 2015, 08:55:26 PM »
Good call on the commander. Picked one up yesterday and was able to make some pretty respectable cow sounds in short order. Got the small frame and bent it just a little to fit the roof of my mouth a little better. By this afternoon I had elk following my truck as I drove down the road. Single reed is much easier for me to use than the double reed ones I have been trying. I figure I only need to make one good sound at the right moment to stop one before I send that arrow out. Got pictures today of a jaw dropper 7x8 on a trail cam.

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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #167 on: July 27, 2015, 09:15:59 PM »
Good call on the commander. Picked one up yesterday and was able to make some pretty respectable cow sounds in short order. Got the small frame and bent it just a little to fit the roof of my mouth a little better. By this afternoon I had elk following my truck as I drove down the road. Single reed is much easier for me to use than the double reed ones I have been trying. I figure I only need to make one good sound at the right moment to stop one before I send that arrow out. Got pictures today of a jaw dropper 7x8 on a trail cam.

Awesome!!!! Just be careful that if you bend them too much you will lose the reed tension but can usually get it back by flattening it back out. :tup:

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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #168 on: July 28, 2015, 09:12:40 AM »
Good call on the commander. Picked one up yesterday and was able to make some pretty respectable cow sounds in short order. Got the small frame and bent it just a little to fit the roof of my mouth a little better. By this afternoon I had elk following my truck as I drove down the road. Single reed is much easier for me to use than the double reed ones I have been trying. I figure I only need to make one good sound at the right moment to stop one before I send that arrow out. Got pictures today of a jaw dropper 7x8 on a trail cam.
Where did you pick one up? Thought they had to be ordered online? Thinking about getting one for my son and I to start practicing with for next year on our first attempt at bow hunting.

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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #169 on: July 28, 2015, 05:06:58 PM »
Local hardware store in Elma has 4-5 different Phelps mouth calls

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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #170 on: July 28, 2015, 07:17:59 PM »
Local hardware store in Elma has 4-5 different Phelps mouth calls
Good to know! Thanks!

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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #171 on: August 05, 2015, 09:33:47 PM »
Hi Jayson,
We're getting pretty close to go  time and I've been practicing my cow and bull sounds with the mouth reeds for a while. I'm struggling with a problem, I've never seemed to iron out my ending wether  making cow or bull sounds. I seam to either fade away to long or stop to abruptly. Any insite you could share would be appreciated, I feel like I'm just practicing error on that part of my calling.
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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #172 on: August 06, 2015, 12:23:07 PM »
Hi Jayson,
We're getting pretty close to go  time and I've been practicing my cow and bull sounds with the mouth reeds for a while. I'm struggling with a problem, I've never seemed to iron out my ending wether  making cow or bull sounds. I seam to either fade away to long or stop to abruptly. Any insite you could share would be appreciated, I feel like I'm just practicing error on that part of my calling.
Thanks, wt

Your calls should only use a certain amount of air and come from the chest.  So when I decide I want to end a call, I think about the chest stopping the delivery of air to my mouth and now I've got a little volume to to taper off or finish the call.

On cow calls I use a "hard stop" to finish the call.
On bugles I tend to feather/transition out a little.

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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #173 on: August 06, 2015, 10:30:36 PM »
Thank you, I'll give that a try.
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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #174 on: August 07, 2015, 01:32:08 PM »
Hey Jason I am brand new to elk hunting never blown a call never been before I am going to go this year and will only have a spike only option. It will be  oct 31- nov 8 what would u suggest for a call I am thinking cow call? What do u think

 

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