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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #45 on: May 07, 2014, 08:45:19 AM »
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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #46 on: May 17, 2014, 08:10:15 PM »
Jason I forgot to ask this today at the seminar but after your shot, (hopefully a good one) whether it is gun, muzzy or bow, is it always good to make a cow call to slow the animal down trying to calm it down?  I have seen it done on many hunting shows.
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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #47 on: May 17, 2014, 08:25:00 PM »
Yes,
I usually always call but I also want to hear what is going on. So I will typically call intermittently while listening in between short calls.

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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #48 on: May 17, 2014, 08:41:29 PM »
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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #49 on: May 18, 2014, 08:24:11 AM »
I did just this two years ago.  Slowed him down a ton.  He was bleeding bad but I think the excitement I was feeling came out in the call.  Not sure what noise I made.  Just cow calls Maybe to rapid and to excited.  It seemed to push him away.  If I had been softer on it he may have laid up.

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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #50 on: May 18, 2014, 07:28:48 PM »
I was able to cow call at last years bull, this made him stop, though he wasn't too spooked after the initial shot. This worked out for a follow up shot to anchor him.

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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #51 on: May 18, 2014, 09:18:40 PM »
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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #52 on: June 17, 2014, 07:25:40 AM »
Jason, I only have a couple years experience hunting elk and have never attempted calling. What would you recommend to a beginner who will be hunting bulls in early september? I was on your website but had no idea what I should get. Thanks!
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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #53 on: June 17, 2014, 08:08:49 AM »
On the diaphram call do you hold near the back of the top of your mouth or to the front.  You sold me some good univeral calls.  I have trying like crazy to get some sort of cow call out of the diaphram.  I think I got the bull calling down.  Not very good but I got it.
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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #54 on: June 17, 2014, 09:34:44 AM »
Jason, I only have a couple years experience hunting elk and have never attempted calling. What would you recommend to a beginner who will be hunting bulls in early september? I was on your website but had no idea what I should get. Thanks!

An external like the E-Z-Estrus will be a very easy to use cow call.

For diaphragms a good all around package would be the pleading hotty, signature bull and dragon slayer (the mediums for most unless you know you have a large or small palate). I also highly recommend that if you are just learning to also try a mellow yellow or raging bull diaphragm.

I HIGHLY RECOMMEND a bugle tube for September hunting. The diaphragms can be used or the conqueror mouth piece can be used to cut down the learning curve.

The good news is there is a ton of time before season to master the diaphragms.   :tup:

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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #55 on: June 17, 2014, 09:37:46 AM »
On the diaphram call do you hold near the back of the top of your mouth or to the front.  You sold me some good univeral calls.  I have trying like crazy to get some sort of cow call out of the diaphram.  I think I got the bull calling down.  Not very good but I got it.

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As far forward as you can.  Start with more tongue pressure and relax your tongue to transition into the lower note.

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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #56 on: June 17, 2014, 11:26:28 AM »
I will be hunting true spikes. The season starts early September I am thinking of just walking the ridges with a cow call. And listening for herd talk. then making my move. You ever call in spikes and what did you use.

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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #57 on: June 17, 2014, 11:41:22 AM »
I've never specifically targeted spikes but my approach would involve spot/stalk, locate a big bull and sneak in on the herd and call when I got there.

All 3 spikes I've called in have been in a cold calling setup.

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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
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Re: Phelps/Hunt-Wa Elk Hunting Q&A
« Reply #59 on: June 17, 2014, 02:18:59 PM »
Jason, I only have a couple years experience hunting elk and have never attempted calling. What would you recommend to a beginner who will be hunting bulls in early september? I was on your website but had no idea what I should get. Thanks!

An external like the E-Z-Estrus will be a very easy to use cow call.

For diaphragms a good all around package would be the pleading hotty, signature bull and dragon slayer (the mediums for most unless you know you have a large or small palate). I also highly recommend that if you are just learning to also try a mellow yellow or raging bull diaphragm.

I HIGHLY RECOMMEND a bugle tube for September hunting. The diaphragms can be used or the conqueror mouth piece can be used to cut down the learning curve.

The good news is there is a ton of time before season to master the diaphragms.   :tup:

Just grabbed a tube with the phelps logo, a mellow yellow and a signature locater from your website.  Just like to say thanks.   :tup:

 

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