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Re: HOGS
« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2014, 11:14:07 AM »
So I picked up a boar,  man he's one ugly pig  :chuckle:

but holy cow is he looooong!   gotta be 4 feet of bacon on that bad boy
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Re: HOGS
« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2014, 11:59:30 AM »
if you're interested in pastured pigs you might look at a blog called "Sugar Mountain Farms". They raise pigs on pasture and whey from cheese making in Vermont.

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Re: HOGS
« Reply #27 on: September 23, 2014, 05:51:02 PM »
Joel Salatin in Virginia raises natural hogs for Chipotle and other restaurants.  Check him out for some ideas.  He has a bunch of videos on the web.  Polyface Farm in Swoope Virginia
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Re: HOGS
« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2014, 05:30:22 PM »
Well the boar has done what boars do  :tup:

Now I'm going to sell the boar because I plan to hold back the best gilts and breed them so I'll need a new boar.   I might also just use insemination once I get things going better.


If he don't sell I might do another breeding, or I'll just take a core sample to check for taint and sausage that bad boy.
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Re: HOGS
« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2014, 05:35:34 PM »
Can you post a picture of your boar, I'd love to see what he looks like :)
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Re: HOGS
« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2014, 05:37:43 PM »
How much pasture is needed per hog?  Weathergirl would love a pig but we could probably only make about an acre and a half of pasture.

I can see it know feral hogs on Decatur Island!  :chuckle:
:chuckle: :chuckle: That's O.K We can go and help him thin a few out after he is over run with them  :bfg: :archery_smiley:

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Re: HOGS
« Reply #31 on: October 29, 2014, 05:43:45 PM »
And when was the last time you heard of a pack of wolves killing pigs?.......... ;)

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Re: HOGS
« Reply #32 on: October 29, 2014, 05:45:50 PM »
this work? 



 :chuckle:  She's checking out the bacon




I put that fence in to keep the dog in the yard, it's worked great with the electric along the bottom and top.  Gets lot's of exercise in there and I don't have to worry about her hunting the quail in the field without me there.   She don't come out the yard w/o a check cord on.  Got some pigeons too and a bunch of feral coming when I trap em.  Neighbor has a barn full.
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Re: HOGS
« Reply #33 on: October 29, 2014, 05:47:01 PM »
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Re: HOGS
« Reply #34 on: October 29, 2014, 05:47:40 PM »
I'll get some better pics of the boar up soon
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Re: HOGS
« Reply #35 on: October 30, 2014, 07:03:38 AM »
Wow, look at them ears! Those hogs are a lot leggier than I was expecting. Good lookin' pigs though :tup: Thanks for the pics!
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Re: HOGS
« Reply #36 on: October 30, 2014, 11:24:36 AM »
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Re: HOGS
« Reply #37 on: October 30, 2014, 11:28:41 AM »
http://www.ansi.okstate.edu/breeds/swine/tamworth/

Evaluating the Breed

The Tamworth is a rugged, thrifty, very active breed of swine that is favored by many persons who are interested in raising a lean-type hog. The sows, like those of the Yorkshire breed, are excellent mothers and do a good job of suckling their litters. The Tamworth is an extremely high-quality breed and is the most active breed of swine that we have in America. People who particularly want hogs that will rustle behind cattle or harvest or salvage crops sometimes prefer Tamworths. The Tamworth has the reputation of producing the best bacon of any of our breeds and is uniform in type. It is one of the most prepotent of the breeds in fixing its type of offspring.
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Re: HOGS
« Reply #38 on: October 30, 2014, 11:29:09 AM »
I might also just use insemination once I get things going better.
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Re: HOGS
« Reply #39 on: October 30, 2014, 11:29:50 AM »
 :chuckle:


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Re: HOGS
« Reply #40 on: October 30, 2014, 11:36:59 AM »
Ai isn't going to happen, I got to reading and I guess it's dang near impossible to tell when a LBH sow is in heat.

I thought maybe I was a newb because I was having a hard time figuring out her cycle  :chuckle:
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Re: HOGS
« Reply #41 on: October 30, 2014, 11:39:06 AM »
 :tup: Love the Brit in the picture reminds me of ours in her younger days out in the back.
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Re: HOGS
« Reply #42 on: October 30, 2014, 02:30:34 PM »
AI is a pain. I don't know about hogs, but you really got to be around your animals a lot to pull off AI. Like dairy farmers, they're around their cows in the morning and late afternoon every single day so they observe them often for behavior changes, they get pretty good at timing. I tried going with AI with a single Angus cow I had. She lived with 15 other steers so they would follow her around to give me a clue as to what was up, but timing was everything. If you AI too soon it won't take if you AI too late, well it's too late. Sometimes I just wasn't around enough to notice anything... Yeah, it's a pain :( I wouldn't recommend it unless you go big time.
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Re: HOGS
« Reply #43 on: November 10, 2014, 01:17:11 PM »
I can teach a 10 year old to AI pigs in a few minutes, the pain is the cost of overnight shipping fresh semen and the heat detection.  If you need 40 doses shipped together the cost is manageable.  For one sow, yikes!!  Sows are much easier to settle than gilts.  The real people selling semen are swine genetics international (SGI) and international boar semen (IBS).  Check them out.  Frozen semen is available but not yet perfected and methods must be followed very carefully. 

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Re: HOGS
« Reply #44 on: November 19, 2014, 08:51:46 AM »
For all people looking to get into raising pigs, I would suggest very highly in having a concrete pen, you don't need allot of room, you want most of the feed to go into growing, not into energy to run around.  Pigs are very clean animals though, just not when dirt is involved and I also believes by having no dirt around, it gives a cleaner taste of meat.  Really a simple animal to raise though and are great for kids to show in 4h and FFA without too much effort.

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« Reply #45 on: November 26, 2014, 06:14:56 AM »
Ditto with Snakeriver 10, a yard of concrete, some curbs, a little vapor barrier and foam board where they sleep and a frost free nipple waterier makes for happy healthy pigs.  Got a patch of quakegrass that needs to be a garden?  Temporary fence it and let the rooters clean it up.  No plowing needed.  Then back to the permanent pen.

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Re: HOGS
« Reply #46 on: December 22, 2014, 10:59:40 AM »
For all people looking to get into raising pigs, I would suggest very highly in having a concrete pen, you don't need allot of room, you want most of the feed to go into growing, not into energy to run around.  Pigs are very clean animals though, just not when dirt is involved and I also believes by having no dirt around, it gives a cleaner taste of meat.  Really a simple animal to raise though and are great for kids to show in 4h and FFA without too much effort.
I agree, we keep all our hogs on concrete except in their barn(plank bottoms) we used 2" galvanized pipe for posts set in the concrete. Then attached either chain link fencing or welded wire panels. Then poured our concrete. Pig will destroy just about all they can touch! Our huts are floating(air gap underneath) and surrounded by concrete yard.  Had to anchor the huts as well cause they would push the huts around once they realized it moves.  Fort Knox was our plan. Once a pig learns how to escape they quickly become pros!
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Re: HOGS
« Reply #47 on: December 22, 2014, 03:03:05 PM »
haven't had to contain little feeder pigs yet, but electric fence has these two well under control.

They don't go near it,  I didn't realize it was unplugged for a week and still no tracks in the snow within 3 feet of the electric fence.   

I got the biggest meanest charger I could find and when it hits you hear a good loud  *snap* and very loud squeal, the boar wasn't fence trained but he learned really quick.  The sow was fence trained and she's never been zapped that I know, she recognized the electric for what it was and stayed well clear.  Now the boar doesn't go near it either.


I used metal T posts and ran a ground wire all the way around the pen wrapped around the T posts several times then on to the next T post.  Works very well.

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Re: HOGS
« Reply #48 on: February 01, 2015, 01:48:57 PM »
KFhunter, getting close to piglets, what about three weeks give or take? Are you all set up? What does your farrowing stall look like? From what I have heard and read you could be in for a larger litter. I have been following this thread from the beginning. Best of luck to you.

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« Reply #49 on: February 09, 2015, 07:26:28 PM »
It's day 114 - I got my fingers crossed.  Her teets have dropped, no milk yesterday.  I didn't squeeze them today.  I'll give them a pinch tomorrow see if there's milk yet.


For the stall I've made a 6x10 shed with 3 feet of it blocked off with a pass under and a heat lamp on that side. 
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