collapse

Author Topic: HOGS  (Read 18313 times)

Offline wadu1

  • Grumpy
  • Virtual Campfire
  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Frontiersman
  • *
  • Join Date: Sep 2008
  • Posts: 2845
  • Location: Tacoma
  • RMEF, DU, NRA, PFE
Re: HOGS
« Reply #50 on: February 09, 2015, 07:56:30 PM »
Hope everything goes well, it's been fun reading all the posts on your pig project. Hope to see photos soon of little slabs of bacon running around.  :chuckle:
"a fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi"

Offline KFhunter

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Explorer
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2011
  • Posts: 13013
  • Location: NE/WA
  • My posts do not reflect an official opinion of HW
Re: HOGS
« Reply #51 on: February 19, 2015, 06:27:53 PM »
no piglets yet, getting worried


"It doesn't seem to me that anyone commenting here is familiar enough with the facts surrounding this case to be forming ANY opinion on what the outcome should be"  ~ JDhasty

Offline jasnt

  • Predator hunter
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Feb 2010
  • Posts: 4120
  • Location: deer park
  • Groups: WSTA
Re: HOGS
« Reply #52 on: February 19, 2015, 06:42:38 PM »
If this is her first time they often carry late.
🐾

"... we cannot change the fact that people will act in a certain way. We cannot change the inevitable. The only thing we can do is play on the one string we have, and that is our attitude. I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it. And so it is with you... we are in charge of our Attitudes."
Charles R. Swindoll

Offline KFhunter

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Explorer
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2011
  • Posts: 13013
  • Location: NE/WA
  • My posts do not reflect an official opinion of HW
Re: HOGS
« Reply #53 on: February 19, 2015, 09:24:43 PM »
Suppose to be her 3rd litter,  when I picked up the sow she had one weaner left with her still pulling on a teet

the boar sired a lot of pigs and was replaced by a new non-related boar.

So they're both proven,  she stood for the boar on 10/19/2014 and didn't budge until he got down about 5 minutes later.


"It doesn't seem to me that anyone commenting here is familiar enough with the facts surrounding this case to be forming ANY opinion on what the outcome should be"  ~ JDhasty

Offline jasnt

  • Predator hunter
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Feb 2010
  • Posts: 4120
  • Location: deer park
  • Groups: WSTA
Re: HOGS
« Reply #54 on: February 19, 2015, 09:33:25 PM »
Sounds like it should be good. We have had sevrel sows go 4 months. What is her attitude like. Is she extra talkative? Quick low grunts? Has milk dropped?
If her teats don't look FULL! Tight skinned and attitude hasn't noticeable changed I'd say you have a couple weeks left and she didn't take that particular cycle
🐾

"... we cannot change the fact that people will act in a certain way. We cannot change the inevitable. The only thing we can do is play on the one string we have, and that is our attitude. I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it. And so it is with you... we are in charge of our Attitudes."
Charles R. Swindoll

Offline KFhunter

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Explorer
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2011
  • Posts: 13013
  • Location: NE/WA
  • My posts do not reflect an official opinion of HW
Re: HOGS
« Reply #55 on: February 19, 2015, 11:50:02 PM »
I could spot a pregger cow a mile off, but pigs are harder to tell.   Vulva expanded some, bit more droopy than in summer but not a lot, not like a cow. 
Teets are more formed, but no bag to them and belly isn't low enough.

wondering if she didn't take that breeding, but afterwards she always kept the boar off her never witnessed another heat cycle after that.   


"It doesn't seem to me that anyone commenting here is familiar enough with the facts surrounding this case to be forming ANY opinion on what the outcome should be"  ~ JDhasty

Offline Birdguy

  • Business Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Dec 2008
  • Posts: 2700
Re: HOGS
« Reply #56 on: February 20, 2015, 08:57:25 PM »
It should be quite evident if she is as close as you are thinking. By now it should be very clear. If she is running with the boar she may have taken the next cycle. With both pigs proven it should be a done deal. Good luck and still looking to see these piglets.

Offline KFhunter

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Explorer
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2011
  • Posts: 13013
  • Location: NE/WA
  • My posts do not reflect an official opinion of HW
Re: HOGS
« Reply #57 on: February 21, 2015, 10:50:55 AM »
I had them together all summer only separated them a week before I thought she'd drop,  hopefully the next cycle took or I got a boar shooting blanks or a sow that won't take or both.

"It doesn't seem to me that anyone commenting here is familiar enough with the facts surrounding this case to be forming ANY opinion on what the outcome should be"  ~ JDhasty

Offline KFhunter

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Explorer
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2011
  • Posts: 13013
  • Location: NE/WA
  • My posts do not reflect an official opinion of HW
Re: HOGS
« Reply #58 on: March 11, 2015, 09:50:55 PM »
OK

no piglets yet, she was supposedly bred 10/19 when I witness the boar mounted for a long period of time.  I left the boar in with her for almost 4 months only took him out a week before she should have been due..so I guess he was in 3 months 2 weeks with her, so should have covered several cycles if she didn't take.  I never witnessed her standing or acting like she did when the boar bred her after 10/19.  She pursued the boar...demanded to be bred.

no real signs of her being ready either, might have seen some clear discharge today though but no milk. 



wondering if I should sausage them both or try a new boar?  boar was a breeder from a guy with lot's of pigs seen a lot of service,  sow had a couple weeners with her when I picked her up.  both proven.



I got in line for a couple of fair pigs so at least the kiddies will have something to show in FFA
"It doesn't seem to me that anyone commenting here is familiar enough with the facts surrounding this case to be forming ANY opinion on what the outcome should be"  ~ JDhasty

Offline jasnt

  • Predator hunter
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Feb 2010
  • Posts: 4120
  • Location: deer park
  • Groups: WSTA
Re: HOGS
« Reply #59 on: March 12, 2015, 05:54:28 AM »
How olds the boar? He may have gotten lazy.  After 3 months she should be good to go. We often keep the boar with the sows about 8-10 weeks.  When the sows become touch-me-nots with the boar they are normally bred.  She may have taken way later than you thought also. 

🐾

"... we cannot change the fact that people will act in a certain way. We cannot change the inevitable. The only thing we can do is play on the one string we have, and that is our attitude. I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it. And so it is with you... we are in charge of our Attitudes."
Charles R. Swindoll

Offline nwwanderer

  • Virtual Campfire
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Sourdough
  • *
  • Join Date: Sep 2010
  • Posts: 1212
Re: HOGS
« Reply #60 on: March 12, 2015, 12:48:50 PM »
There is a boat load of disease issues that cause infertility, do not fight her too long, it costs a buck a day to feed her.

Offline Netminder01

  • Business Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2009
  • Posts: 972
Re: HOGS
« Reply #61 on: March 12, 2015, 01:15:59 PM »
tag

Offline Birdguy

  • Business Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Dec 2008
  • Posts: 2700
Re: HOGS
« Reply #62 on: March 12, 2015, 08:25:34 PM »
Still hoping for you KF been following this thread for months. Post a few pictures of the sow if you get the chance she should be showing even if she took the second heat cycle. I would think that she should have come into heat making it real easy to tell she was not bred. Issues you never figured you would have  :bash:.

Offline jasnt

  • Predator hunter
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Feb 2010
  • Posts: 4120
  • Location: deer park
  • Groups: WSTA
Re: HOGS
« Reply #63 on: March 12, 2015, 10:46:47 PM »
One thing to also keep in mind. Sows cycle every 18-21 days.  You know one of her cycles was 10/19 so you can do the math and get a better due date guess. 2nd cycle, 3rd cycle.  If she was with the boar for 90 days that could have been 4cycles.  Lol too bad you can't just candle her like and egg lol
🐾

"... we cannot change the fact that people will act in a certain way. We cannot change the inevitable. The only thing we can do is play on the one string we have, and that is our attitude. I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it. And so it is with you... we are in charge of our Attitudes."
Charles R. Swindoll

Offline KFhunter

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Explorer
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2011
  • Posts: 13013
  • Location: NE/WA
  • My posts do not reflect an official opinion of HW
Re: HOGS
« Reply #64 on: March 12, 2015, 11:03:33 PM »
ultra sound is how you candle them  :chuckle:   expensive so I won't go that route.


the boar isn't lazy, he works her pretty good every day he was in with her.  Always lifting on her belly with his nose and if he's not doing that he's sniffin' the backside.  He did this every day multiple times usually after feeding and maybe a time or two on pasture. She makes a squeal noise and runs off a bit if he even thinks about mounting.  I'm still hoping she pregger, but she's not a balloon.  I took some pics see if I can post em later.



"It doesn't seem to me that anyone commenting here is familiar enough with the facts surrounding this case to be forming ANY opinion on what the outcome should be"  ~ JDhasty

Offline KFhunter

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Explorer
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2011
  • Posts: 13013
  • Location: NE/WA
  • My posts do not reflect an official opinion of HW
Re: HOGS
« Reply #65 on: March 12, 2015, 11:06:06 PM »
Only thing I can think of that I might have messed up is I was feeding them hay I couldn't sell to horse people, had a bad spot on one end of the bale maybe with some mold.  Not a lot, just the exposed ends of the bale that weren't buried in the stack.

Got to reading online and mold can make pregnancy issues or cause abortion.
"It doesn't seem to me that anyone commenting here is familiar enough with the facts surrounding this case to be forming ANY opinion on what the outcome should be"  ~ JDhasty

Offline Birdguy

  • Business Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Dec 2008
  • Posts: 2700
Re: HOGS
« Reply #66 on: April 14, 2015, 07:27:43 PM »
KF, Still nothing???? Are you still feeding these pigs?

Offline KFhunter

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Explorer
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2011
  • Posts: 13013
  • Location: NE/WA
  • My posts do not reflect an official opinion of HW
Re: HOGS
« Reply #67 on: April 16, 2015, 07:21:57 PM »
ya I'm still feeding them but they're going out on range here soon.  I thought the sow was going to pop a week ago, had clear discharge and an elongated vulva. 

Boar is not interested in her, I'm going to cut his nuts off and eat him.


"It doesn't seem to me that anyone commenting here is familiar enough with the facts surrounding this case to be forming ANY opinion on what the outcome should be"  ~ JDhasty

Offline Widgeondeke

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2010
  • Posts: 2390
  • Location: Lake Stevens, WA
  • US Army Infantry 91-98
Re: HOGS
« Reply #68 on: April 17, 2015, 07:39:02 AM »
Your gonna eats his nuts?  :yike:


Offline Special T

  • Truth the new Hate Speech.
  • Washington For Wildlife
  • Trade Count: (+11)
  • Explorer
  • *
  • Join Date: Aug 2009
  • Posts: 17168
  • Location: Skagit Valley
  • Wake me when you need me.
    • Silver Arrow Bowmen
Re: HOGS
« Reply #69 on: April 17, 2015, 04:26:58 PM »
 :EAT:
The Truth is like Poetry, and most people hate Poetry

Offline Southpole

  • Off-Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *
  • Join Date: Sep 2012
  • Posts: 2247
  • Location: Arlington/Oso
  • Groups: NRA
Re: HOGS
« Reply #70 on: April 18, 2015, 10:10:05 AM »
When I was in high school we had a piglet castration lesson in our agriculture class one day. A couple of the guys in my class sliced the "remains" and fried them in an electric skillet. They were pretty good, tasted like spam.
$5 is a lot of money if you ain't got it

Offline KFhunter

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Explorer
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2011
  • Posts: 13013
  • Location: NE/WA
  • My posts do not reflect an official opinion of HW
Re: HOGS
« Reply #71 on: April 22, 2015, 10:47:45 PM »
Your gonna eats his nuts?  :yike:

why not?   You've ate lot's of them in your hog dogs and sausages.

j/k

no I ain't eating them  :puke:
« Last Edit: April 24, 2015, 04:19:55 PM by KFhunter »
"It doesn't seem to me that anyone commenting here is familiar enough with the facts surrounding this case to be forming ANY opinion on what the outcome should be"  ~ JDhasty

Offline Jonathan_S

  • Business Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+4)
  • Old Salt
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2012
  • Posts: 7078
  • Location: Medical Lake
  • Volleyfire Brigade
Re: HOGS
« Reply #72 on: May 01, 2015, 12:59:25 PM »
When I was in high school we had a piglet castration lesson in our agriculture class one day. A couple of the guys in my class sliced the "remains" and fried them in an electric skillet. They were pretty good, tasted like spam.

That's what Spam is.  Ham and...well you figure it out.  I don't want to get banned.
“Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.”

Offline luvmystang67

  • Site Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2010
  • Posts: 1534
  • Location: Snohomish
Re: HOGS
« Reply #73 on: May 04, 2015, 08:03:19 AM »
You're going to eat a boar?  Even if you castrate him and feed him for a while, I still think that might be kinda gross except sausage...  I don't KNOW this, just speculation.

We did a lot of AI work after having to deal with boars for a while.  It is nice because you're able to get some dynamite bloodlines.  Sort of a pain in the butt, but easier than feeding, dealing with and caring for a boar.

 :twocents:

Offline jasnt

  • Predator hunter
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Feb 2010
  • Posts: 4120
  • Location: deer park
  • Groups: WSTA
Re: HOGS
« Reply #74 on: May 04, 2015, 10:07:21 AM »
We've ate our boars. Pork is pork. We never even castrated ours :dunno:
🐾

"... we cannot change the fact that people will act in a certain way. We cannot change the inevitable. The only thing we can do is play on the one string we have, and that is our attitude. I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it. And so it is with you... we are in charge of our Attitudes."
Charles R. Swindoll

 

* Recent Topics

Salmon fishing/Not likley by Tinmaniac
[Today at 07:00:33 AM]


Blackpowder pistol loading. by Smokeploe
[Today at 06:58:18 AM]


Dealing with backyard poop by Smokeploe
[Today at 06:53:13 AM]


WINGS AND YOUR SAUCES. by C-Money
[Today at 06:51:11 AM]


2017 HuntWA Christmas Gift Exchange - LIST IS CLOSED by SniperDanWA
[Today at 06:51:04 AM]


How long can Elk go in a freezer? by Moose Master
[Today at 06:50:41 AM]


Poached Goat by Antlershed
[Today at 06:14:32 AM]


One More to go by boneaddict
[Today at 05:44:51 AM]


WTS Browning Citori 625 Field 12 ga !! Price Drop !! by northwesthunter84
[Today at 05:43:33 AM]


minnesota-hunter-encounters-wolf-pack by wolfbait
[Today at 04:41:33 AM]


To buy arrows? by n_mathews13
[Today at 01:54:06 AM]


Which state(s) next? by Oh Mah
[Today at 01:25:57 AM]


For Sale- Ruger .270 cal DZ77 by spin05
[Today at 01:20:53 AM]


Coon by n_mathews13
[Today at 01:16:27 AM]


Where should I put my camera this winter? by yakimanoob
[Today at 12:02:17 AM]


Dehydrator Recommendations by KFhunter
[Yesterday at 11:48:36 PM]


Trapping opportunity, Whatcom County by Humptulips
[Yesterday at 11:30:31 PM]


Kauai fishing by Barbarossa13
[Yesterday at 11:28:53 PM]


Crossbow broadheads by lokidog
[Yesterday at 11:10:22 PM]


Looking for a new bow for my son by X-Force
[Yesterday at 11:01:29 PM]