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Mechanical broadhead
« on: April 12, 2015, 11:09:04 AM »
Any word on the use of mechanical broadhead's for the upcoming archery seasons?

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Re: Mechanical broadhead
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2015, 11:42:46 AM »
I heard they were voted in as legal now.

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Re: Mechanical broadhead
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2015, 12:50:33 PM »
where did hear this ??

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Re: Mechanical broadhead
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2015, 12:53:39 PM »
They're now legal, it was in the proposals, so we've known this for two months.

It just became official last Friday, when the Fish and Wildlife commission adopted the proposals.

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Re: Mechanical broadhead
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2015, 01:08:47 PM »
Thanks BC ...Be interesting the feed back we will get this year from this New Rule  :tup: I will be sticking with my fixed blades  :tup:

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Re: Mechanical broadhead
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2015, 08:13:47 PM »
Where have you actually seen this in writing? Not disputing it but from what I can find, I see nothing about M.B.s'

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Re: Mechanical broadhead
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2015, 10:21:05 PM »
I am really curious how it is going to be written.  Could lead to a lot of confusion if a barbed expandable is legal but a barbed fixed blade is not.  What will a legal mechanical be?  Going to be very interesting!
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Re: Mechanical broadhead
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2015, 11:00:43 PM »
Where have you actually seen this in writing? Not disputing it but from what I can find, I see nothing about M.B.s'

http://wdfw.wa.gov/commission/meetings/2015/04/apr09_2015_22_summary.pdf

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Re: Mechanical broadhead
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2015, 01:31:42 AM »
Wow!  So barbed broadheads have become legal so we might have all expandables as "equipment selection choice by hunters" without limitations.  I'm not sure what to think of that.  Maybe the thought is by keeping that stupid 6 grain per pound rule no animal will be found running through neighborhoods with an arrow sticking out of it. :dunno:  I sure hope that one doesn't come around to bite us in the behind :o

I am usually all for removing most equipment limitations that do not create a "natural resource issue".  But I do believe measures must be taken to protect hunter "Image" as well as natural resources.  Not sure lifting the "barbed" rule will be a good one for the image of bowhunters going forward.

Many mechanicals are fine well designed broadheads.  Many pull free from non-leathal wounds much easier than would many of todays most popular fixed blade broadheads.  But, within that group of responsible designs are a growing number of mechanicals that are nothing more than modified fish points.  Sure hope we find a way to self regulate to a large enough degree that news crews across the state find nothing worth reporting.
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Re: Mechanical broadhead
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2015, 05:28:57 AM »
There's no simple way to write the regs to allow mechanical heads and disallow barbed fixed blade heads without becoming confusing. My personal feeling is that it will be no more of an issue than it has been in the past. Sure, some will choose to hunt with the fish points like the Exodus, and they will have a bad shot that may not pull out, but I don't think it'll be at a rate any higher than we currently have. I know I've had to unscrew Slick Tricks to get the arrow out of elk on numerous occasions. Writing rules for the "what if" scenarios doesn't work too well if that which you are allowing isn't much different than what you are disallowing.
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Re: Mechanical broadhead
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2015, 06:05:00 AM »
Agree Todd.  So what is the best mechanical on the market for deer?  I always liked the looks of the ulmer edge but now they are off the market.


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Re: Mechanical broadhead
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2015, 06:09:01 AM »
I might run the hypodermic for deer and elk.  anyone on here have consistent success on elk with mechanicals?  if so what kind? 

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Re: Mechanical broadhead
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2015, 06:53:16 AM »
my elk arrows will have fixed broad heads at least in till I see just how lethal they are on deer at range .
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Re: Mechanical broadhead
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2015, 11:42:14 AM »
There's no simple way to write the regs to allow mechanical heads and disallow barbed fixed blade heads without becoming confusing.

Alaska did it very easily.  I will try to find the other stated that did it well.  Just need to remember which ones those were.  I'll try to call my contact at Rage and see if they have the list.
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Re: Mechanical broadhead
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2015, 11:58:13 AM »
I might run the hypodermic for deer and elk.  anyone on here have consistent success on elk with mechanicals?  if so what kind?
You make want to look at Grim Reapers http://www.grimreaperbroadheads.com/ecommerce/category.i?cmd=allcats.  I will be using these.  I have used them in California and my aunt and uncle use them and have put down elk with them with no problems.
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Re: Mechanical broadhead
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2015, 07:01:17 PM »
So are the fixed blade requirements changed or eliminated?




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Re: Mechanical broadhead
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2015, 08:32:04 PM »

So are the fixed blade requirements changed or eliminated?

Yes.  You can now use mechs.  It didn't get a lot of press but was in the proposed regs and made it through with no real opposition.


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Re: Mechanical broadhead
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2015, 05:38:31 PM »
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Re: Mechanical broadhead
« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2015, 07:11:40 PM »
I really hope you don't choose your archery equipment on pictures from facebook with funny text on them.  I'm sure that kids stats are spot on.  :chuckle:

just asking if anyone has used them.  figured this was a good place for it.  doesn't sound like they are very popular in wa.  probably cause of them being illegal until now.

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Re: Mechanical broadhead
« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2015, 02:43:46 PM »
 i know it's not deer and elk but i use one a turkey yesterday. In Oregon and it looked like a softball went through it.

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Re: Mechanical broadhead
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2015, 06:56:45 PM »
I have never had a problem killing elk with a fixed blade. Why change now.

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Re: Mechanical broadhead
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2015, 08:23:59 PM »
I have never had a problem killing elk with a fixed blade. Why change now.
I don't need to change, either. But the vast majority of bowhunters asked for the change. But what do I know?  I've only killed 43 elk in my life. Just because it's different doesn't make it wrong.
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Re: Mechanical broadhead
« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2015, 06:29:06 AM »
I have never had a problem killing elk with a fixed blade. Why change now.
I don't need to change, either. But the vast majority of bowhunters asked for the change. But what do I know?  I've only killed 43 elk in my life. Just because it's different doesn't make it wrong.

I've only ever killed one.  But there's a lot more to come.  If I can gain a tiny bit of an edge in any part of my hunting im going to do it.  Even if it only makes me confident at five extra meters im going to at least inquire and probably dink around with them my self. I know my wrist strap release can knock the target dead if im on point.  But I just bought the handheld thumb release to gain a small advantage and get a smoother more consistent release.   It doesn't work the way I want it right out of the box.  So I adjust it and get it dialed in.  My point is small gains show huge in the field and if I can extend my range, dope the wind better and kill them just the same then why wouldn't I? If they are more accurate at long range (90-110 meters), and open consistently then I'll probably use them. 

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Re: Mechanical broadhead
« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2015, 07:20:19 AM »
New regs just came out this morning. Mechanicals are now legal archery equipment.  :tup:

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Re: Mechanical broadhead
« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2015, 07:49:29 AM »
Ive mentioned before that ive had really good luck with gravedigger broadheads.  Ive made great shots and poor shots with them and never have lost an animal yet.  If anyone is on the edge of switching this is a mean broadhead.  They are a combination of a fixed and mechanical, kind of the best of both worlds.  Ive also made my own version which uses a helix fixed blade that is double the thickness of most fixed.