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Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
« on: July 05, 2015, 07:47:14 PM »
Well itching to get out and try out my new 10X12 wall tent and Three dog stove. But with work,family and weather just cant get away right now. So I set down today and scanned every wall tent and stove thread on here up to page 57.

Lots of good info. But thought, sure be great if all those great ideas were on one thread. :drool:

Seems like a lot of guys took up wall tents in the past five years on here. So what is your best wall tent or wall tent stove tips? After the purchase.

What did you learn after you bought your tent and used it a while?

Maybe we can help the new guys who are thinking of buying one. 

Lets try to only address canvas wall tents and stoves you can use in them.

Maybe this could become a sticky at the top of the page for easy reference by new Wall Tenters.


Tip....Never ever put your tent away wet.



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Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2015, 09:20:44 PM »
Will be following!

I just got my first "wall" tent if you can call it that. It's one of those kodiak flex bows. I'm gonna have a stove jack put in and I just ordered a stove.

There is a floor to the tent but I thought of getting a chunk of carpet or astroturf cut to size.

Door mats are always nice to. And a comfy rug at your cot.

Clothes drying racks are great if using a stove.

A little cooking grate to set your pots/pans on the stove. Warming up slices of theringer/summer sausage on the stove with some cheese and crackers are a great snack.

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Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2015, 09:43:48 PM »
Always buy bigger than what you think you need.

Get a 6-8 foot 1/2 piece of pipe, hang it from your rafters down about a foot from both ends .  Makes a perfect clothes line..  Bring hangers and hang wet clothes up
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Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2015, 09:49:34 PM »
Always buy bigger than what you think you need.

Get a 6-8 foot 1/2 piece of pipe, hang it from your rafters down about a foot from both ends .  Makes a perfect clothes line..  Bring hangers and hang wet clothes up

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And make sure it is dry before you put it away.
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Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2015, 09:58:39 PM »
Always buy bigger than what you think you need.

Get a 6-8 foot 1/2 piece of pipe, hang it from your rafters down about a foot from both ends .  Makes a perfect clothes line..  Bring hangers and hang wet clothes up

Now that's a good idea.
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Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2015, 10:00:10 PM »
Will be following!

I just got my first "wall" tent if you can call it that. It's one of those kodiak flex bows. I'm gonna have a stove jack put in and I just ordered a stove.

There is a floor to the tent but I thought of getting a chunk of carpet or astroturf cut to size.

Door mats are always nice to. And a comfy rug at your cot.

Clothes drying racks are great if using a stove.

A little cooking grate to set your pots/pans on the stove. Warming up slices of theringer/summer sausage on the stove with some cheese and crackers are a great snack.

What stove?
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Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2015, 10:00:46 PM »
Will be following!

I just got my first "wall" tent if you can call it that. It's one of those kodiak flex bows. I'm gonna have a stove jack put in and I just ordered a stove.

There is a floor to the tent but I thought of getting a chunk of carpet or astroturf cut to size.

Door mats are always nice to. And a comfy rug at your cot.

Clothes drying racks are great if using a stove.

A little cooking grate to set your pots/pans on the stove. Warming up slices of theringer/summer sausage on the stove with some cheese and crackers are a great snack.

Never cook inside of your tent because everything that is in it will smell like what you cooked.

Dig a trench around your tent to keep rain water from coming inside.

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Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2015, 10:08:51 PM »
My tent has a snap in floor. I wanted to protect it from sparks out front of stove.
Looked at several options and decided on a flexible semi ridge mat for under you BQ.
This one is spark resistant and about 3 ft square. Figure to just load it flat in bed of my truck. Has a hole for a handle.

Another thing I came up with. I am going to set the stove up in the tent at home on the mat. Once everything is located as it should me. I am going to mark the location of the mat on the tent floor with a sharpie. Also mark the locTion of stove legs on mat.
That should speed upset up in camp.
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Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2015, 10:21:33 PM »
Will be following!

I just got my first "wall" tent if you can call it that. It's one of those kodiak flex bows. I'm gonna have a stove jack put in and I just ordered a stove.

There is a floor to the tent but I thought of getting a chunk of carpet or astroturf cut to size.

Door mats are always nice to. And a comfy rug at your cot.

Clothes drying racks are great if using a stove.

A little cooking grate to set your pots/pans on the stove. Warming up slices of theringer/summer sausage on the stove with some cheese and crackers are a great snack.

Never cook inside of your tent because everything that is in it will smell like what you cooked.

Dig a trench around your tent to keep rain water from coming inside.

Yeah my plan is to cook outside or in the group camps we have a cook shack.

I have never trenches around a tent mainly because I always use a rain fly that goes out away from the tent.
I made a tarp rain fly for my new tent with stove pipe cut out . It hangs 12 inches on back 6 ft on front. And 16 inches of each side.

Many guys don't use the tarp. I like it because it has always kept my tents cleaner and dry inside. It also in heavy rain channels water out away from tent sides.
I am confident my new tent is water proof because I hosed it down good and the water beaded and ran off. The fly just add more protection.

I also hang my fly differnt than most. It only May touch the ridge other wise it is 12 inches above the canvas. Allows good air flow and lets canvas breath.

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Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2015, 10:52:15 PM »
When I cut out my tarp for stove flap I lined it on all sides with this heat duck tape.
Figured it would ad extra strength.

I also added a flap of heavy vinyl to cover it if not using stove.(note shown)
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Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2015, 10:47:36 AM »
Always stake it down, all the way around the bottom as well as ropes off the side.
2 years ago in a nasty rain and wind storm, I came back from a morning hunt to find my 12x14 tent 30ft away and upside down. I did have all the ropes staked down but the ground was to hard on part of it and couldn't get all of the bottom.
The other thing I do, for my floor I bought a tarp the size of my tent and fold 1/3 back under its self so the entry way and stove are dirt. This allows for me to have a place to take off boots or wet closes etc and not get my floor all nasty. I also have small chunks of carpet at the bed sides.
My wood stove has a 3 Gal water tank on it, I dig a cereal bowl size hole under the spout so the water can gather to seep into the dirt or a place to dump coffee or whatever.

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Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2015, 11:11:35 AM »
Storage is always at a premium.  This only works for interior framed tents. I cut some plywood in 6 inch planks and slightly longer than the distance between 2 poles.  I then used a circle bit to notch out the plank (half circle) on one side where it then is lined up to two poles.  Drill holes on both sides of the plank for 550 cord and then hang them tied off above the cot in that space.  Nothing heavy, but headlamps, ammo, beanie hat, bowl n spoon etc.

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Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2015, 03:23:17 PM »
If its the 1st time setting it up.  Wet it down with the hose once you get it staked down and let it dry on the frame.  It will fit your frame so much better after sitting rolled up for a year. Sounds weird I know but trust me

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Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2015, 05:53:42 PM »
If its the 1st time setting it up.  Wet it down with the hose once you get it staked down and let it dry on the frame.  It will fit your frame so much better after sitting rolled up for a year. Sounds weird I know but trust me

I believe that. Read some where that canvas will Relax after a couple days.
Saw a video of a guy who stretched a tent 5-6 inches by puting blocks under.the legs every couple days an staking it tight.
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Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2015, 07:03:38 PM »
Will be following!

I just got my first "wall" tent if you can call it that. It's one of those kodiak flex bows. I'm gonna have a stove jack put in and I just ordered a stove.

There is a floor to the tent but I thought of getting a chunk of carpet or astroturf cut to size.

Door mats are always nice to. And a comfy rug at your cot.

Clothes drying racks are great if using a stove.

A little cooking grate to set your pots/pans on the stove. Warming up slices of theringer/summer sausage on the stove with some cheese and crackers are a great snack.

What stove?

I decided to go with a kni-co Alaskan Jr. Partly due to being on a budget. I read a lot between the four dog and kni-co stoves. The four dog seems to be superior, but I thought I'd try my luck with the kni-co. So we'll see. Tent is 10x14.

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Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2015, 07:35:48 PM »
I second trenching the tent. I don't care what kind of tarp you have, when the big thunder storm soaker rain comes through, and it has to me multiple times over 35 years of wall tenting, you will think you are on the set of the movie "a river runs through it" if you don't trench at the edges of the walls.  This is especially true if there's any kind of uphill slope nearby.  Take my word for it.  If you have a floor that isn't completely waterproof it will get damp eventually.  Make the trench.  Also, bring mouse traps.  Nothing is more irritating than a mouse or chipmunk scratching around at 0200 after you hiked 10 miles today.  The "snap" and squeak is a very satisfying sound.
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Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2015, 08:04:48 PM »
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Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2015, 09:31:51 AM »
post use DRY and store, I suspend in garage in bag with a sash of mothballs in each tent bag to keep out rodents or your tent can quickly get chewed up!
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Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2015, 04:59:13 PM »
I put chair rubbers on my tent legs to protect the sod cloth from downward weight.
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Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2015, 06:55:39 PM »
When using the wood stove, I cover the wall behind the stove with a mylar sheet. This reflects heat and keeps the wall cool. Mylar on the wall opposite the stove makes it feel like you have a second stove in the tent and you dont have to move the stuff you have hanging to dry.

I no longer use the stove mounted water heater, (too much steam) we have a 20 qt pot with spout and lid. Preheat on the camp chef then bring in for simmer if needed. A five gallon water jug (insulated) keeps warm water on hand for washing dirty fingers away from the tent.

Large cots have 18" of room under them for duffel bag storage.
Shovel a couple scoops of soil into the stove prior to using. This insulates the bottom metal.

Note... trenching is a good idea. Pay attention to drainage, I've returned to water flowing under the floor tarp due to the two track above us not having a diversion. Quick fix but I should have seen it coming. All stayed dry with the floor tarp on top the sod cloth.

When the weather cools down some the flame baffle is coming out of the new stove. It effects loading and restricts the burn.

Stake it down. As mentioned in another post. Watch for widow makers. Lodge pole thickets make good wind breaks and fit in the stove without splitting.

Edit to add: SECURE THE STOVE JACK FLAP and keep an eye on it. A friend burned his camp down due to if touching the stove pipe one season.

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Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2015, 07:13:16 PM »
Mylar umm Good idea.

How many guys use something behind their stoves to protect the wall?

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Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2015, 07:57:09 PM »
Mylar umm Good idea.

How many guys use something behind their stoves to protect the wall?


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I use the mylar for a heat reflector first. The fact that the frost stays on the wall outside convinced me that it works very well for that. I have had the wood stoves and pipe glowing in an effort to dry things out and I believe the high temps can't be good for the canvas.

The mylar would prevent drying this portion of the wall too, so remember to take it down and let the walls dry prior to folding and storage.
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Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2015, 08:18:02 PM »
if the canvas isn't sealed, set it up when the weather will be warm and dry for a few days. Then take your garden sprayer and fill it with Thompsons original and spray it down good.
Then it will last much longer! Otherwise they can rot out real fast.
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Re: Wall Tents Tips and Tricks
« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2015, 09:52:17 PM »
Mylar umm Good idea.

How many guys use something behind their stoves to protect the wall?
I had two stove jacks installed in my tent when I bought it from Davis, one just to the right and 2/3rds to the front and the other in the front right side wall. When i setup the stove to the use the stove jack in the side wall it does get really hot on the canvas and i starting using a sheet of aluminum to block the heat, but I found its easier to heat the whole tent with using less wood when the stove is in the center of the tent.