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Re: Cougar Tips
« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2015, 10:01:55 AM »
Exactly, I've found that a tree stand you carry in with you is just too much commotion.

Same problem for circling around on a vocalizing cat. I've seen it work on coyotes, and I've had a Cougar vocalizing enough to make me want to try an end run, but there's just no way you're getting around it without being seen!

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Re: Cougar Tips
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2015, 10:10:28 AM »
I think you already have few of mine up Steve except maybe this one
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Re: Cougar Tips
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2015, 10:28:05 AM »
If you could do it silently it could help.  I've thought about using a tree stand but you would prob need to pre hang it to not get busted.

Thanks for the response.  I wasn't thinking a tree stand, more just get up 3 to 4 feet higher, so im not looking just into the brush in front of me but looking through it (if that makes sense).

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Re: Cougar Tips
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2015, 10:38:45 AM »
If you could do it silently it could help.  I've thought about using a tree stand but you would prob need to pre hang it to not get busted.

Thanks for the response.  I wasn't thinking a tree stand, more just get up 3 to 4 feet higher, so im not looking just into the brush in front of me but looking through it (if that makes sense).
i get what your saying. Personally I prefer to call facing up hill.  So my area is all above me. I think if you where sitting on a branch you movement would be multiplied cause every tiny move you make will move the branch too. Me I'm a big guy, not built for climbing trees lol so go me it could be dangerous with out a tree stand.  I like to keep it simple. But if your the kind of guy that can shimy up a tree lickedy split by all means try it. Could even make the cougar believe it is another cat in that tree but remember that cat won't come in if he feels you have the upper hand
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Re: Cougar Tips
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2015, 11:13:02 AM »
Thanks again for the information/advise.  Im planning on doing this, focusing on cougars, once I get back from Idaho at the end of the month.  I'll let you know how it goes.

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Re: Cougar Tips
« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2015, 11:19:29 AM »
Im gona give it a try as well. I think i will be content whacking coyotes bobcats and a cougar... It looks like snow may be our friend this year.

Has anyone tried a Tree saddle or Guidos web?  With the tree stands was it the noise or the movement that fouled the hunt?
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Re: Cougar Tips
« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2015, 11:20:40 AM »
Whatta about taking a ground blind with you and setting it up and sitting in in when calling or would that be to obvious for a cat

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Re: Cougar Tips
« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2015, 07:44:14 PM »
A ground blind can work. I've seen handheld photos/video to prove it.  Better if it's set up for a long period of time, but I would use one before a treestand just because of noise and etc. getting it installed.

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Re: Cougar Tips
« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2015, 08:07:07 PM »
Here for the info thanks guys

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Re: Cougar Tips
« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2015, 08:17:57 PM »
I've got a top of the line summit climber I thought I'd use for cats, but it sits at home.  Haven't figured out how to get it up the tree in total silence, which is what's required for calling cats.  It'll take me a long time to sneak into a call spot.   I can knock out 3-4 times as many coyote stands in a day as I can cat stands, with cat stands you need to assume that the cat your hunting is up there in the rocks above watching/listening the floor below for it's next prey, and it's hunting deer - pretty easy to spot a guy packing in a tree stand and calling equipment  :chuckle:

Also cats do most of their moving at night so during the day it might be up there sleeping off a belly full of venison, hopefully it's between kills and wouldn't mind something close and easy...
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Re: Cougar Tips
« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2015, 08:19:45 PM »
I just prefer to go light. Easier to be quiet and slip in UN seen or heard with just what you need. Plus you may have to improvise instead of sit in your spot and go threw the motions. What happens if your headed to your spot and you see fresh tracks going out of the drainage?  To many variables. Just keep it simple. 
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Re: Cougar Tips
« Reply #36 on: November 13, 2015, 08:39:19 PM »
Yup,  I just carry the Foxpro + remote plus a few survival things in a single backpack.   I also got me a nice thick turkey hunting seat and gun bi-pod sticks.

I don't even use binos once the calling starts, because then your moving!  Instead just take a mental note of every bump, stump, dark spot and object out there, glass them ahead of time so you know what they are.

once the calling starts scan with your eyeballs for a new bump, stump, dark spot or object out there then glass it with your scope, because it's probably a cat! 


I had a new dark spot show up and was hemming and hawing about putting the scope on it because I wasn't sure if it was there before or not, in the back of my mind it was just a spot I had seen and forgot about, didn't look like much.  I was second guessing it... Finally that small dark spot unfolded itself and turned into a monster cat and was gone before I could put glass on it. 
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Re: Cougar Tips
« Reply #37 on: November 13, 2015, 09:04:37 PM »
"I had a new dark spot show up and was hemming and hawing about putting the scope on it because I wasn't sure if it was there before or not, in the back of my mind it was just a spot I had seen and forgot about, didn't look like much.  I was second guessing it... Finally that small dark spot unfolded itself and turned into a monster cat and was gone before I could put glass on it." 

And that is how you get addicted to calling lions!

I don't glass after the caller starts either.  Most times I'm packing my shotgun. After my first cougar harvest I want then in close! I like to call in the super thick stuff! I keep the call around 20-40 yards away as long as it will put the cat to where I can see it.  Team calling can be very exciting. Often I sit close to the call and my friend sets up high above watching with the rifle. I use a camo fleece blanket to hide under with my shotgun shouldered underneath. I quit doing this method by my self though when I had a cat sit on the rock i was seated against. I could hear it plop on to the rock and could hear it breathing/panting, after a moment I decided I should spin around fast as I could to try to take the shot but as I spun to shoot it jumped about 6' up and back and I never got the shot.  Was a young cat that I prob would not have taken if I had seen it in the sights.  Could have gone bad real quick so I avoid that unless I got my back up shooter up above. Also why I recommend the pistol in the lap
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Re: Cougar Tips
« Reply #38 on: November 13, 2015, 09:10:59 PM »
I'd have to have a lot of trust for someone to shoot a cat sitting just over my shoulder  :chuckle:

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Re: Cougar Tips
« Reply #39 on: November 13, 2015, 10:06:04 PM »
I'd have to have a lot of trust for someone to shoot a cat sitting just over my shoulder  :chuckle:

"hold still while I shoot this apple off your head"



:chuckle:  hopfully he sees it long before its over my shoulder.   The way we plan it he shoots if the cat hangs up or as it's leaving. In turn he gets to sit up above the action while I run the call. He dosent have to even move a mussel sept his eyes. While I sit in the thick stuff running the call from my hiddy hole allowing me a little more movement ( hand running the call)  hasn't worked out yet but he gets to hunt my spots with out having to do the leg work,and I get a little back up in case it hits the fan or the cat hangs up above my view or out of range.   
So far all my call ins have been solo trips but one. When I called in the 3 cats I was with my friend Jackey, the day I learned to always check my battery's  we were scouting for her elk hunt and I was after bear when we found a fresh track. Setup to call and ecaller was dead. So I used a hand call :bdid:  when the first 2 cats started whistling every time I did I got excited. I was focused on the whistles,then we got the gargle cough from a diffrent cat that was 30-40 yards away and we couldn't see it. She was frozen in fear( I just thought she was doing great at sitting still)  she says the older cat came in from below us and moved over to where we heard the gargle cough.  If my ecaller had worked I'd bet we would have at least gotten a visual but with a hand call all eyes were on me.
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Re: Cougar Tips
« Reply #40 on: November 15, 2015, 12:39:06 PM »

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/audioPop.jsp?episodeId=246630&cmd=apop

I learned a heck of a lot from this broadcast, well worth a listen when you got a spare 30 minutes or so.


It takes patience and time to really understand and put into practice all the information that's in this broadcast.  I called in three lions last year, was busted twice and a 3rd cat I didn't see until it was too late.  I'm just a beginner right now, but I'm seeing the light and getting a grasp on what it takes to call lions routinely, not just stumbling into a successful call but being able to get out there and have a reasonable shot at success.

Most important thing is to call areas that hold lions, then you need to know where to position yourself so you could actually see the dang thing approach, and hold rock still for a solid hour, and not get busted just walking in.  You also want to hide the call so I gave up on decoys all together, opting to hide the call in a natural depression.  The cat will sneak to the call until it can see where the sound is coming from then most of the time just sit and study it, eventually get bored and look around, this is where you get busted so better to have gotten your shot off already.

It really makes calling coyotes child's play I think.   The only real upshot is wind isn't as big of factor as with coyotes, but you can't hold too still for cats, can't emphasize this enough.  I don't think I've been busted by smell alone.  Mostly I'm busted walking in setting up so it's better to scout locations and approaches ahead of time then go in another day to call.

Good luck, the lion numbers are greatly in your favor and I hope that calling lions is demystified, we need to put all of them we can in the dirt.

Listened to some of this last night. The guy talked about how you should watch cats because they all act the same (house cats, bobcats, cougars). So today for a bit of practice I called in my cat. It was actually a ton of fun to play with her.
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« Reply #41 on: November 15, 2015, 01:12:42 PM »

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/audioPop.jsp?episodeId=246630&cmd=apop

I learned a heck of a lot from this broadcast, well worth a listen when you got a spare 30 minutes or so.


It takes patience and time to really understand and put into practice all the information that's in this broadcast.  I called in three lions last year, was busted twice and a 3rd cat I didn't see until it was too late.  I'm just a beginner right now, but I'm seeing the light and getting a grasp on what it takes to call lions routinely, not just stumbling into a successful call but being able to get out there and have a reasonable shot at success.

Most important thing is to call areas that hold lions, then you need to know where to position yourself so you could actually see the dang thing approach, and hold rock still for a solid hour, and not get busted just walking in.  You also want to hide the call so I gave up on decoys all together, opting to hide the call in a natural depression.  The cat will sneak to the call until it can see where the sound is coming from then most of the time just sit and study it, eventually get bored and look around, this is where you get busted so better to have gotten your shot off already.

It really makes calling coyotes child's play I think.   The only real upshot is wind isn't as big of factor as with coyotes, but you can't hold too still for cats, can't emphasize this enough.  I don't think I've been busted by smell alone.  Mostly I'm busted walking in setting up so it's better to scout locations and approaches ahead of time then go in another day to call.

Good luck, the lion numbers are greatly in your favor and I hope that calling lions is demystified, we need to put all of them we can in the dirt.

Listened to some of this last night. The guy talked about how you should watch cats because they all act the same (house cats, bobcats, cougars). So today for a bit of practice I called in my cat. It was actually a ton of fun to play with her.
I do that too. It is fun. Try it on feral cats, little tougher to call. My friend Jackey lives next to a hay field and there are some barn cats that hunt it after dark. When I go out for a smoke I like to turn on my hat light and lip squeak one in as close as I can. Sofar I haven't gotten them to cross the fence but I did call in a double once :chuckle:  some times they just make a b-line straight at me but most like to stalk in slow. Some will just sit and stare my way. I bet if I added a laser pointer to my gear I could get them to cross the fence
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Re: Cougar Tips
« Reply #42 on: November 15, 2015, 01:59:23 PM »
I am trying to figure out how to hunt them in this thick Kitsap/Mason county country.....

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« Reply #43 on: November 15, 2015, 02:08:25 PM »
I'm going to add a powerful laser pointer to my lion calling setup  :tup:
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« Reply #44 on: November 15, 2015, 02:11:55 PM »
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« Reply #45 on: November 15, 2015, 02:25:41 PM »
I'm going to add a powerful laser pointer to my lion calling setup  :tup:
:chuckle: oh ya that's going to make for an exciting hunt :tup: maybe even get one that comes with the screw on caps that project a critter of some sort :chuckle:
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Re: Cougar Tips
« Reply #46 on: November 16, 2015, 08:35:20 PM »
I am trying to figure out how to hunt them in this thick Kitsap/Mason county country.....

Same. It's almost too close of quarters to feel safe.
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Re: Cougar Tips
« Reply #47 on: November 17, 2015, 09:39:44 PM »
I am trying to figure out how to hunt them in this thick Kitsap/Mason county country.....

Same. It's almost too close of quarters to feel safe.

I'm over in Sequim. Same here. You know they're here, so you just have to make do. One thing I end up doing, especially by myself, is to set up with a natural barrier to the rear. They'll avoid it, making them go around you. They're not too dangerous! (Yet! Wait til they get toooo overpopulated!)
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Re: Cougar Tips
« Reply #48 on: November 18, 2015, 01:57:32 PM »
I'm looking to just go out, cut a fresh track and walk it out should the snow be shallow enough.

I give myself a 50/50.

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« Reply #49 on: November 18, 2015, 05:00:01 PM »
I'm looking to just go out, cut a fresh track and walk it out should the snow be shallow enough.

I give myself a 50/50.

Am I dreaming?


Was wondering the same thing