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Goat Tag Raffle - Flooded
« on: March 23, 2016, 08:30:36 AM »
The WDFW website doesn't reflect it yet, but the goat tag raffle got heavily flooded yesterday by a guy who still has some in reserve.  Evidently, WDFW only updates the website once a week.

As it stands now, it will take at least $25K to get 60% odds at this point if historical figures are any indication. And, at least $60K or more to get to 85%.  Of course, a guy that buys just one tag would win it all. Crazy.

Anyway, I'm just passing this along as a courtesy since it would suck for someone that's thinking about doing it to depend on WDFW's outdated website for the latest raffle tag count and then end up inadvertently screwing themselves on the odds...and whoever else that already laid down some dough for mountain goat conservation.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2016, 08:44:15 AM by Bushcraft »
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Re: Goat Tag Raffle - Flooded
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2016, 08:47:35 AM »
Can you give us a link as to where to see this information?

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Re: Goat Tag Raffle - Flooded
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2016, 08:48:14 AM »
wow, between now and july to collect additional raffle tickets.  Is that his way of saying, don't bother in an attempt to increase his odds?  the raffles have definitely changed since they started.  I wish I could afford to play at that level.

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Re: Goat Tag Raffle - Flooded
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2016, 08:57:54 AM »
wow, between now and july to collect additional raffle tickets.  Is that his way of saying, don't bother in an attempt to increase his odds?  the raffles have definitely changed since they started.  I wish I could afford to play at that level.

No. It's more like the guy's way of saying, "Think long and hard about laying that cash down since the odds are a lot worse now for you than what the WDFW website might lead you to believe."

And, you can go to B.C. a few times for that kind of money.
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Re: Goat Tag Raffle - Flooded
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2016, 08:59:54 AM »
Can you give us a link as to where to see this information?

http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/raffles/

There's only 147 showing but I can assure you that are a lot more than that as of yesterday.
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Re: Goat Tag Raffle - Flooded
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2016, 09:09:40 AM »
Seems kinda ignorant to waste a bunch of cash on Raffle tags at this point when you could  wait for the Special Permit draw & potentionaly get the same Tag for pennies on the Dollar. :lol4: :lol4: :lol4:
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Re: Goat Tag Raffle - Flooded
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2016, 09:16:19 AM »
Very, very true.  ;)
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Re: Goat Tag Raffle - Flooded
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2016, 09:30:41 AM »
Can we see the final numbers from 2015??

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Re: Goat Tag Raffle - Flooded
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2016, 09:32:29 AM »
Nevermind. Got her. Search function works wonders.

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Re: Goat Tag Raffle - Flooded
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2016, 12:08:03 PM »
Are these tags transferable?

Can you gift them should you win?
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Re: Goat Tag Raffle - Flooded
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2016, 12:24:02 PM »
That's a good question.  It's under a WILD ID so I assume it isn't like the G-Tag transfer election.

I can tell you with 100% certainty that he's gotten bumped out of the G-tag bidding the last three years so he's not likely to give it up if he draws.
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Re: Goat Tag Raffle - Flooded
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2016, 12:34:02 PM »
Great post, I think putting down that kind of money early is sending a signal to the other "whales" that they are going to have to lay some serious cash to increase their odds.  Whoever bought these wants the tag bad!  That being said thanks for the contribution to the state and I hope a guy who only buys one ticket pulls the tag, lol. 

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Re: Goat Tag Raffle - Flooded
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2016, 12:44:19 PM »
I love third person posts. Very clever bushcraft. Good luck to you. 👍

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Re: Goat Tag Raffle - Flooded
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2016, 12:51:45 PM »
Ha, ha!

That guy says "Thanks!"

 ;)
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Re: Goat Tag Raffle - Flooded
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2016, 12:56:27 PM »
I love third person posts. Very clever bushcraft. Good luck to you. 👍

Ha, ha!

That guy says "Thanks!"

 ;)


Is this implying that Bushcraft is the guy who purchased an epic ton of raffle tickets yesterday?
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Re: Goat Tag Raffle - Flooded
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2016, 01:03:16 PM »
I love third person posts. Very clever bushcraft. Good luck to you. 👍

Ha, ha!

That guy says "Thanks!"

 ;)


Is this implying that Bushcraft is the guy who purchased an epic ton of raffle tickets yesterday?

Pretty sure that's the implication.
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Re: Goat Tag Raffle - Flooded
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2016, 01:04:57 PM »
Or maybe he purchased 147 and is just saying a ton more were purchased in hopes of turning people away. Sneaky sneaky
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Re: Goat Tag Raffle - Flooded
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2016, 01:18:23 PM »
Perfect response Timber...  The wanna be Goat elitists in this State are out of control; stroking each others ego's and who knows what else.   I don't think the jedi mind tricks are working in starting this thread.  I will still buy my $200 or so worth of tags nonetheless.  Nice thing about the raffle is that everyone with a ticket gets a shot
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Re: Goat Tag Raffle - Flooded
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2016, 01:20:25 PM »
Or maybe he purchased 147 and I'd just saying a ton more were purchased in hopes of turning people away. Sneaky sneaky

Negative.
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Re: Goat Tag Raffle - Flooded
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2016, 01:21:57 PM »
Or maybe he purchased 147 and I'd just saying a ton more were purchased in hopes of turning people away. Sneaky sneaky

Negative.

sly sarcasm
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Re: Goat Tag Raffle - Flooded
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2016, 01:28:46 PM »
Trying to not come across like a jerk, but what is the point of starting this thread? I sort of get the feel that you're bragging about it.
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Re: Goat Tag Raffle - Flooded
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2016, 01:32:04 PM »
Trying to not come across like a jerk, but what is the point of starting this thread? I sort of get the feel that you're bragging about it.

 :yeah:  The raffles should be capped at a certain # of tickets per person. If you want a goat hunt and are dropping alot of money, go north, or buy the auction tag. Everyone should be able to have the same chance...ya, ya i know that we all do in the draw.....  also, I am not saying I disagree with $ going towards our wildlife at all.. just don't agree with filling the tumbler...

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Re: Goat Tag Raffle - Flooded
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2016, 01:33:03 PM »
Perfect response Timber...  The wanna be Goat elitists in this State are out of control; stroking each others ego's and who knows what else.   I don't think the jedi mind tricks are working in starting this thread.  I will still buy my $200 or so worth of tags nonetheless.  Nice thing about the raffle is that everyone with a ticket gets a shot

Trying to not come across like a jerk, but what is the point of starting this thread? I sort of get the feel that you're bragging about it.


Sorry.  This thread wasn't meant to be contentious in any way, shape or form.  Merely a courtesy since WDFW doesn't automatically update.

And you are absolutely correct, the beautiful thing about a raffle is that everyone has a chance if they want to participate.  That said, the same is true of the G-Tags.  There's nothing "elitist" about it.  At the end of the day it just comes down one's personal priorities.  Everyone's priorities are different.  And for what it's worth, I know the guys that have got it the last three years, and know of the guy that bought it this year.  They are all good people. 
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Re: Goat Tag Raffle - Flooded
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2016, 01:34:03 PM »
Trying to not come across like a jerk, but what is the point of starting this thread? I sort of get the feel that you're bragging about it.

 :yeah:  The raffles should be capped at a certain # of tickets per person. If you want a goat hunt and are dropping alot of money, go north, or buy the auction tag. Everyone should be able to have the same chance...ya, ya i know that we all do in the draw.....  also, I am not saying I disagree with $ going towards our wildlife at all.. just don't agree with filling the tumbler...

I agree. I'd much rather see a cap on raffle tag purchases than see 1 guy "buy" the raffle. Folks can say everyone has a chance but when a guy drops $10k on raffle tickets, that pretty much destroys most everyone else's odds of winning it.
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Re: Goat Tag Raffle - Flooded
« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2016, 01:35:56 PM »
Perfect response Timber...  The wanna be Goat elitists in this State are out of control; stroking each others ego's and who knows what else.   I don't think the jedi mind tricks are working in starting this thread.  I will still buy my $200 or so worth of tags nonetheless.  Nice thing about the raffle is that everyone with a ticket gets a shot

Sorry.  This thread wasn't meant to be contentious in any way, shape or form.  Merely a courtesy since WDFW doesn't automatically update.

And you are absolutely correct, the beautiful thing about a raffle is that everyone has a chance if they participate.  That said, the same is true of the G-Tags.  There's nothing "elitist" about it.  At the end of the day it just comes down one's personal priorities.  Everyone's priorities are different.  And for what it's worth, I know the guys that have got it the last three years, and know of the guy that bought it this year.  They are all good people.

Thanks for the information.
I was there when the auction tag was sold this year. Did you get outbid? Oh, and I agree re: the gentleman that bought it this year. He made a few nice donations. Not just the goat tag purchase.


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