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Re: Giving up the special spots - Forum etiquette
« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2016, 04:04:49 PM »
I have found that I can get the point across with a single raised finger or two.

There's always that haha

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Re: Giving up the special spots - Forum etiquette
« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2016, 06:25:39 PM »
It's quite sad that the "code" isn't obeyed by everyone. You know the one, it's I take you to a spot and you never go there unless I'm with you, and vice versa. Got burned once over 20 years ago with a slam dunk duck spot. Showe'd up to set dekes out in the dark and there was the guy I took with 4 other guys I'd never met before.

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Re: Giving up the special spots - Forum etiquette
« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2016, 06:52:21 PM »
I still have the coordinates that someone gave me. I guess this was a thing back a few years ago, but talking about it now can get you banned. Glad I research the crap out of everything before I believe in people.

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Anyways, I have received great info here and handed out great info. Like mentioned above, you can give info without giving away a honey hole.

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Re: Giving up the special spots - Forum etiquette
« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2016, 07:34:37 PM »
You all just pm me your spots here in eastern wash.And I will see ya there,i be the one loading my truck when you show up,but really I will only tell a people about spots close friends and all I say is have you ever been up this road I never give exact spot
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Re: Giving up the special spots - Forum etiquette
« Reply #29 on: October 10, 2016, 08:02:35 PM »
I personally just would like to find some more guys to hunt with so I am not hunting alone all the time...  If your interested PM me...

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Giving up the special spots - Forum etiquette
« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2016, 08:33:22 PM »
I get Merkel's point, it applies to a lot of aspects of hunting. Big game, waterfowl, varmints. It only takes a few people to ruin a spot.

It doesn't take much to shoot out a covey. Sharing spots can lead to over pressured and over hunted birds. Add in natural predation, winter kill, poor hatches, fires etc it doesn't take more than a couple extra hunters to tip the scales. I know spots that used to hold large covies of quail and chukar but they got hunted to the point that birds died out or moved out of the area, now they are barren.
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Re: Giving up the special spots - Forum etiquette
« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2016, 04:49:50 AM »
I don't mind sharing general information with people I meet. I wouldn't post a spot ever on the net. And I know when someone is fishing for info. I do it and it's a productive way to get some pointers on new places. I am never asking for exact spots or directions. Sometimes they are given at the campfire but I always ask if they mind if I go check it out. Usually they say they don't hunt it anymore.

As far as sharing spots and how to hunt it. I got two buddies and it's unspoken but pretty sure we all know our friendship would be over if we caught them showing someone around a honey hole. Maybe I should check to make sure. Na.

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Re: Giving up the special spots - Forum etiquette
« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2016, 06:04:30 AM »
I get Merkel's point, it applies to a lot of aspects of hunting. Big game, waterfowl, varmints. It only takes a few people to ruin a spot.

It doesn't take much to shoot out a covey. Sharing spots can lead to over pressured and over hunted birds. Add in natural predation, winter kill, poor hatches, fires etc it doesn't take more than a couple extra hunters to tip the scales. I know spots that used to hold large covies of quail and chukar but they got hunted to the point that birds died out or moved out of the area, now they are barren.

All it takes is one and I can guarantee that that one will not be the guy who puts in the effort you do to do the research and legwork to find those spots in the first place.  NEVER SHARE ANYTHING WITH A LAZY SLOB WHO ISN'T WORKING AS HARD AS YOU DO, OR HARDER, TO FIND PLACES THAT HOLD GAME. 

If you do, you may just as well post the latitude and longitude here because they have absolutely no respect for or appreciation for what you have shared with them and they will ruin it for you in the future. 

It just is what it is and the earlier you learn it the better off you will be for it. 
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Re: Giving up the special spots - Forum etiquette
« Reply #33 on: October 13, 2016, 12:47:42 PM »
I've been burned several times.  I've also been shown a few decent areas, with the agreement not to take anyone else there, and I've honored that.  In the main however, there's no substitute for putting in the time and boot leather to find an area on your own.  That's why they call it hunting. 

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Re: Giving up the special spots - Forum etiquette
« Reply #34 on: October 13, 2016, 01:47:02 PM »
Through this forum, I've met some great people who've given some thoughtful advice and input. I'd never ask for a honey hole - I get how tough it is to find one in the first place.

I think what's being said here is something that we all want: Honor, dignity, integrity, kindness.

I think most folks on here want to help out the cause of hunting - it's such a unique privilege that we have - to ensure that others enjoy it like we do so that they might pass it on to the next generation. And most folks on this forum want to invest in others because we would want the same for ourselves too.

I've met some great guys on here that have deeply invested in both myself and even more, my two boys. My boys are obsessed (much like many of you) with hunting, fishing, outdoors - because of the nature of the kindness here.

In particular, one member on this site volunteered to take my son pheasant hunting on the youth opener in 2014 (and has volunteered this for the past 3 years). And then, during each subsequent years, he's gone out of his way to invite us to join him in other adventures...some of which may actually be his honey holes (not sure).  It's been a true blessing for both myself and my boy. Because of this member, both my son and I have a greater appreciation and knowledge of bird hunting, waterfowl hunting, etc.

In the spirit of honor and kindness, when I came upon a new spot to hunt - he was the first person I wanted to invite to join my son and I. It gave me joy to honor him with kindness back. And in doing so, there's a reciprocal sense of gratitude and friendship. Even more, how fun to experience new spots together and find success as friends!

I think that in the hunters code of ethics there should be this written rule that says,

   "An ethical hunter shares when another has shared with you. Honor one another, show integrity, be consistent, be kind."

Here's the existing code found on WDFW's website: http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/conduct/

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Re: Giving up the special spots - Forum etiquette
« Reply #35 on: October 13, 2016, 02:05:45 PM »
"Honor one another, show integrity, be consistent, be kind."

In other words if/when invited to a hunting spot by someone else, forget that you know it exists unless and until they invite you to go along with them to that spot again. 

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Re: Giving up the special spots - Forum etiquette
« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2016, 02:27:42 PM »
hunter 399 -
Giving up a road is pretty bad, the newbies will just drive up in there, see where you are parked, and...voila, your spot is spoiled.  The very most I ever give out is the unit, and frankly even that is risky.  "Don't ask, don't tell" seems to be the best policy for me.  Sorry if it sounds selfish, I guess it is.  :sry:

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Re: Giving up the special spots - Forum etiquette
« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2016, 02:33:04 PM »
hunter 399 -
Giving up a road is pretty bad, the newbies will just drive up in there, see where you are parked, and...voila, your spot is spoiled.  The very most I ever give out is the unit, and frankly even that is risky.  "Don't ask, don't tell" seems to be the best policy for me.  Sorry if it sounds selfish, I guess it is.  :sry:

It is not selfish, it is just "what it is, is what it is" and you will meet very few people in your lifetime who you can trust with your best spots. 

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Re: Giving up the special spots - Forum etiquette
« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2016, 02:44:45 PM »
Buddy sent me a picture of a chucker sitting on the steps at one of our local Chinese restaurants. True story! I'm not telling you where though cause I plan to take full advantage of a chucker that lives on flat land!
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Re: Giving up the special spots - Forum etiquette
« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2016, 03:17:05 PM »
Buddy sent me a picture of a chucker sitting on the steps at one of our local Chinese restaurants. True story! I'm not telling you where though cause I plan to take full advantage of a chucker that lives on flat land!

They served it last night in Kung Pao Chukar.
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Re: Giving up the special spots - Forum etiquette
« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2016, 03:54:11 PM »
If you tell one person, they will tell one more, who will then tell many more, etc...   :yike:   :bdid:   :bash:   :bash:    :bash: 

I had invested years into an area, and then went in to the local store to see a picture of a familiar bull hanging on the board.  Asked about it, and was told exactly where it was shot.  Now everyone knows.   :bash: 

People are worse than wolves, and this is from a dedicated wolf hater.  You need to be super careful about who you put on your "Hunting Buddy" list.   :twocents:

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Re: Giving up the special spots - Forum etiquette
« Reply #41 on: October 13, 2016, 03:56:57 PM »
If you tell one person, they will tell one more, who will then tell many more, etc...   :yike:   :bdid:   :bash:   :bash:    :bash: 

I had invested years into an area, and then went in to the local store to see a picture of a familiar bull hanging on the board.  Asked about it, and was told exactly where it was shot.  Now everyone knows.   :bash: 

People are worse than wolves, and this is from a dedicated wolf hater.  You need to be super careful about who you put on your "Hunting Buddy" list.   :twocents:

You can't be too careful. 

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Re: Giving up the special spots - Forum etiquette
« Reply #42 on: October 13, 2016, 04:15:34 PM »
I brought a buddy's dad and his son-in-law to one of my hunting areas one year. Didn't mind helping them out. The following year I was up on the mountain and came across a few guys, turned out the SIL brought three of four of his buddies up to "my" area. Learned my lesson right there and didn't do it again.


But... I haven't hunted WA since about 2011 and don't mind sharing in the spirit of charity, if you want to find game

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Re: Giving up the special spots - Forum etiquette
« Reply #43 on: October 13, 2016, 05:17:34 PM »
Buddy sent me a picture of a chucker sitting on the steps at one of our local Chinese restaurants. True story! I'm not telling you where though cause I plan to take full advantage of a chucker that lives on flat land!

They served it last night in Kung Pao Chukar.

LOL!   :chuckle:

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Re: Giving up the special spots - Forum etiquette
« Reply #44 on: October 13, 2016, 06:07:03 PM »
hunter 399 -
Giving up a road is pretty bad, the newbies will just drive up in there, see where you are parked, and...voila, your spot is spoiled.  The very most I ever give out is the unit, and frankly even that is risky.  "Don't ask, don't tell" seems to be the best policy for me.  Sorry if it sounds selfish, I guess it is.  :sry:

It is not selfish, it is just "what it is, is what it is" and you will meet very few people in your lifetime who you can trust with your best spots.


Along with sharing your favorite spots comes the person who is always willing to go with you but never cough's up any of their spot's.

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Re: Giving up the special spots - Forum etiquette
« Reply #45 on: October 16, 2016, 04:57:56 AM »
If you tell one person, they will tell one more, who will then tell many more, etc...   :yike:   :bdid:   :bash:   :bash:    :bash: 

I had invested years into an area, and then went in to the local store to see a picture of a familiar bull hanging on the board.  Asked about it, and was told exactly where it was shot.  Now everyone knows.   :bash: 

People are worse than wolves, and this is from a dedicated wolf hater.  You need to be super careful about who you put on your "Hunting Buddy" list.   :twocents:

Were you burned on that spot you shared in secret or was it a spot you found that someone else also found and decided to share with the public?
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Re: Giving up the special spots - Forum etiquette
« Reply #46 on: October 17, 2016, 07:35:29 PM »
If you tell one person, they will tell one more, who will then tell many more, etc...   :yike:   :bdid:   :bash:   :bash:    :bash: 

I had invested years into an area, and then went in to the local store to see a picture of a familiar bull hanging on the board.  Asked about it, and was told exactly where it was shot.  Now everyone knows.   :bash: 

People are worse than wolves, and this is from a dedicated wolf hater.  You need to be super careful about who you put on your "Hunting Buddy" list.   :twocents:

Were you burned on that spot you shared in secret or was it a spot you found that someone else also found and decided to share with the public?


That particular example was just to show what can happen with one wrong person.  I have taken many people to my spots that have kept the secret, but I have had a couple bad experiences that make me never want to take another person.

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Re: Giving up the special spots - Forum etiquette
« Reply #47 on: October 17, 2016, 08:52:13 PM »
New hunters (or experienced hunters new to upland) I'll give you perhaps the biggest resource you'll ever need to get started:

http://wdfw.wa.gov/

C'mon guys, this state makes it really easy to find places to get started hunting upland birds.  Best of all, you can do it from the comfort of your own home!  This is my first year hunting upland as I didn't have a dog prior, but I've got more spots marked on my GPS then I'll be able to explore this season, all from homework done on the WDFW site.  I'm fully expecting quite a few of those spots to be a bust, but I'm optimistically hopefully about others.

Living on the westside is no excuse for a freebie, it just means you have to do twice as much homework before you hit the road.  Know your target, study your target and their habits, find the habitat, and give it a go!

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Re: Giving up the special spots - Forum etiquette
« Reply #48 on: October 17, 2016, 09:10:07 PM »
gee whiz mister that sounds like too much work! you're harshing my mellow

Yo, how about you texted me your gps spots for birds?

dont be a hater :chuckle:


New hunters (or experienced hunters new to upland) I'll give you perhaps the biggest resource you'll ever need to get started:

http://wdfw.wa.gov/

C'mon guys, this state makes it really easy to find places to get started hunting upland birds.  Best of all, you can do it from the comfort of your own home!  This is my first year hunting upland as I didn't have a dog prior, but I've got more spots marked on my GPS then I'll be able to explore this season, all from homework done on the WDFW site.  I'm fully expecting quite a few of those spots to be a bust, but I'm optimistically hopefully about others.

Living on the westside is no excuse for a freebie, it just means you have to do twice as much homework before you hit the road.  Know your target, study your target and their habits, find the habitat, and give it a go!

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Re: Giving up the special spots - Forum etiquette
« Reply #49 on: October 17, 2016, 09:21:52 PM »
gee whiz mister that sounds like too much work! you're harshing my mellow

Yo, how about you texted me your gps spots for birds?

dont be a hater :chuckle:


New hunters (or experienced hunters new to upland) I'll give you perhaps the biggest resource you'll ever need to get started:

http://wdfw.wa.gov/

C'mon guys, this state makes it really easy to find places to get started hunting upland birds.  Best of all, you can do it from the comfort of your own home!  This is my first year hunting upland as I didn't have a dog prior, but I've got more spots marked on my GPS then I'll be able to explore this season, all from homework done on the WDFW site.  I'm fully expecting quite a few of those spots to be a bust, but I'm optimistically hopefully about others.

Living on the westside is no excuse for a freebie, it just means you have to do twice as much homework before you hit the road.  Know your target, study your target and their habits, find the habitat, and give it a go!

I've posted your address and phone number on Facebook for all new upland hunters to use and contact for upland areas.
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