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Re: Feral chickens?
« Reply #50 on: November 07, 2016, 12:33:57 PM »
Man must be the election or something all kinds of craziness going on.

If you see a cow along side the road are you going to blast it? COME ON PEOPLE!!! If it's not yours leave it alone!!!

THEIFT of livestock which a chicken is livestock, is a class c felony.
http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9A.56.083

Chickens aren't livestock.

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(1) Every person who, with intent to sell or exchange and to deprive or defraud the lawful owner thereof, willfully takes, leads, or transports away, conceals, withholds, slaughters, or otherwise appropriates any horse, mule, cow, heifer, bull, steer, swine, goat, or sheep is guilty of theft of livestock in the first degree.


http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=16.57.010

(9) "Livestock" includes, but is not limited to, horses, mules, cattle, sheep, swine, and goats.

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Re: Feral chickens?
« Reply #51 on: November 07, 2016, 01:22:58 PM »
I'd be careful with chickens in the wild.  They might belong to the local Sasquach family, and you don't want to make them mad.  Just watch the Oberto videos on YouTube. 

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Re: Feral chickens?
« Reply #52 on: November 07, 2016, 02:09:55 PM »
I contemplated shooting a feral steer one time.  After 2 days of hunting the damn thing I was pretty sure I was going to shoot it when I found it.  Took me until day 3 to get it chased back into my pasture.

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Re: Feral chickens?
« Reply #53 on: November 07, 2016, 02:48:35 PM »
I contemplated shooting a feral steer one time.  After 2 days of hunting the damn thing I was pretty sure I was going to shoot it when I found it.  Took me until day 3 to get it chased back into my pasture.

 :chuckle:  That is funny .

We had a pig we were raising once that did get shot.  My wife was tired of calling me to get him back in, so she called the butcher who dropped him in the field outside his pen.  mmmmmmm bacon.

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Re: Feral chickens?
« Reply #54 on: November 07, 2016, 02:55:23 PM »
My wife, who had been enlisted to help catch said steer, was the #1 advocate for shooting it.  At one point she was yelling at me to "just shoot the f*(#)*$*# thing!"

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Re: Feral chickens?
« Reply #55 on: November 07, 2016, 03:00:20 PM »
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Re: Feral chickens?
« Reply #56 on: November 07, 2016, 03:05:13 PM »
Man must be the election or something all kinds of craziness going on.

If you see a cow along side the road are you going to blast it? COME ON PEOPLE!!! If it's not yours leave it alone!!!

THEIFT of livestock which a chicken is livestock, is a class c felony.
http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9A.56.083

Chickens aren't livestock.

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(1) Every person who, with intent to sell or exchange and to deprive or defraud the lawful owner thereof, willfully takes, leads, or transports away, conceals, withholds, slaughters, or otherwise appropriates any horse, mule, cow, heifer, bull, steer, swine, goat, or sheep is guilty of theft of livestock in the first degree.


http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=16.57.010

(9) "Livestock" includes, but is not limited to, horses, mules, cattle, sheep, swine, and goats.

 :chuckle: I am so done with this  :chuckle:

You missed this part, at the beginning of where you pulled the definition:

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The definitions in this section apply throughout this chapter unless the context clearly requires otherwise.

You can't pull a definition from one chapter and apply it to a totally different chapter. :dunno:

Theft of livestock is chapter 9, you are quoting chapter 16.  Chapter 9 clearly calls out what is considered livestock and chickens ain't in the list.  It could be a felony, so they aren't going to leave it up to "but not limited to" and have someone get a felony for ripping off a hamster.

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Re: Feral chickens?
« Reply #57 on: November 07, 2016, 03:08:43 PM »
Feral hamsters are a thing? Wow, cool. Carry on.
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Re: Feral chickens?
« Reply #58 on: November 07, 2016, 03:10:00 PM »
This thread has legs.  Has the makings of giving the BF thread a run for its money.  :)
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Re: Feral chickens?
« Reply #59 on: November 07, 2016, 03:37:49 PM »
I still like how some people, in their travels in places outside, see an animal that doesn't seem to belong or that isn't "regulated" to a hunting season by the WDFW immediately want to shoot it. 

Isn't that what the spirit of hunting has always been about? 

Shoot whatever living non-human creature presents itself, just because you can! 

I'm with Bone on this one.

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Re: Feral chickens?
« Reply #60 on: November 07, 2016, 03:41:47 PM »
Chances are it's an old bird that would be so tough you'd need to cook it all day in a crock pot to soften it up a bit to make it edible and you'd probably still risk breaking a tooth.  :)
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Re: Feral chickens?
« Reply #61 on: November 07, 2016, 03:44:34 PM »
Feral hamsters are a thing? Wow, cool. Carry on.

Yes they can be! I caught one once at my uncles house which they had been living in for years, it was chewing holes in the garage Sheetrock walls.  :yike:
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Re: Feral chickens?
« Reply #62 on: November 07, 2016, 04:12:24 PM »
 :bdid: I shot two on the island that some one dumped. They were big but after skinning them no breast meat.  :'(
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Re: Feral chickens?
« Reply #63 on: November 07, 2016, 04:14:38 PM »
I'm with Curly.  If you've ever been to Kauai, there's feral chickens EVERYWHERE.  I've asked a couple locals if they've ever tried eating one and they all give you the "Mr. Yuck" face.
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Re: Feral chickens?
« Reply #64 on: November 07, 2016, 04:39:00 PM »
 I'm not saying I have a kill them all attitude, but the OP was about legality. If the chicken is clearly abandonded, or feral, on public land then yes it is legal to shoot.  Then again I have also been known to shoot x-bred park ducks that deke in too. My brother once shot a rabit way out in the middle of no where, said it was big :rolleyes:, it ran up under some brush and was making a squeel any predator caller would be proud of. I crawled up under the brush to get it, and it turned out to be a lop eared bunny, not a proud moment finnishing it off, no idea where it came from or how it got there, but I am kinda glad we killed it. Oven roasted with some BBQ suace, it was delicious.

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Re: Feral chickens?
« Reply #65 on: November 07, 2016, 05:00:33 PM »
Man must be the election or something all kinds of craziness going on.

If you see a cow along side the road are you going to blast it? COME ON PEOPLE!!! If it's not yours leave it alone!!!

THEIFT of livestock which a chicken is livestock, is a class c felony.
http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9A.56.083

Chickens aren't livestock.

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(1) Every person who, with intent to sell or exchange and to deprive or defraud the lawful owner thereof, willfully takes, leads, or transports away, conceals, withholds, slaughters, or otherwise appropriates any horse, mule, cow, heifer, bull, steer, swine, goat, or sheep is guilty of theft of livestock in the first degree.


http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=16.57.010

(9) "Livestock" includes, but is not limited to, horses, mules, cattle, sheep, swine, and goats.

 :chuckle: I am so done with this  :chuckle:

You missed this part, at the beginning of where you pulled the definition:

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RCW 16.57.010
Definitions.
The definitions in this section apply throughout this chapter unless the context clearly requires otherwise.

You can't pull a definition from one chapter and apply it to a totally different chapter. :dunno:

Theft of livestock is chapter 9, you are quoting chapter 16.  Chapter 9 clearly calls out what is considered livestock and chickens ain't in the list.  It could be a felony, so they aren't going to leave it up to "but not limited to" and have someone get a felony for ripping off a hamster.

Interesting......I was kind of thinking the same thing. I found it hard to believe that shooting a random chicken in the middle of no where (and yes there are no homes even close to nearby) would result in a felony and it was as straightforward as that. This clears up some of the legality confusion I had thanks


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Re: Feral chickens?
« Reply #66 on: November 07, 2016, 05:01:46 PM »
Bet it was a rooster some urbanite couldn't keep due to crowing.  There's an awful lot of people around here that'll dump unwanted animals/birds in the woods and along the local rivers.  They pretend they're doing the animal a favor by setting it free.

Get a load of what the damnable fools in my neighborhood are advocating on the Nextdoor website: 

~One more thing, if you don't have dogs who eat cats, you can get ferill cats from the humane society. You just have to make them a little 'cat house' -and feed them for a few weeks to keep them from running away. They are great rodent killers!

They got a little testy when I responded with this question:  Let me ask you this: Do you also advocate for dumping used motor oil down the storm drain in order to control mosquitoes?

What kind of a mentality must you have to advocate for turning out feral cats into a neighborhood allowing them to kill what is left of the native song bird population?

Ever heard the term "mouser?"
My inlaws have several mouser cats living in their barn. A critical shortage of mice and a great population of mountain bluebirds.
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Re: Feral chickens?
« Reply #67 on: November 07, 2016, 05:04:04 PM »
Feral hamsters are a thing? Wow, cool. Carry on.

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Re: Feral chickens?
« Reply #68 on: November 07, 2016, 05:04:45 PM »
My wife, who had been enlisted to help catch said steer, was the #1 advocate for shooting it.  At one point she was yelling at me to "just shoot the f*(#)*$*# thing!"

Funny how that works. My gf was the one who kept giving me *censored* because I didn't shoot the chicken. Go figure


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Re: Feral chickens?
« Reply #69 on: November 07, 2016, 06:23:01 PM »
Right after you shoot the chicken, some kid steps on the road crying that you killed their pet chicken out for a walk.
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Re: Feral chickens?
« Reply #70 on: November 07, 2016, 07:30:24 PM »
Bet it was a rooster some urbanite couldn't keep due to crowing.  There's an awful lot of people around here that'll dump unwanted animals/birds in the woods and along the local rivers.  They pretend they're doing the animal a favor by setting it free.

Get a load of what the damnable fools in my neighborhood are advocating on the Nextdoor website: 

~One more thing, if you don't have dogs who eat cats, you can get ferill cats from the humane society. You just have to make them a little 'cat house' -and feed them for a few weeks to keep them from running away. They are great rodent killers!

They got a little testy when I responded with this question:  Let me ask you this: Do you also advocate for dumping used motor oil down the storm drain in order to control mosquitoes?

What kind of a mentality must you have to advocate for turning out feral cats into a neighborhood allowing them to kill what is left of the native song bird population?

Ever heard the term "mouser?"
My inlaws have several mouser cats living in their barn. A critical shortage of mice and a great population of mountain bluebirds.
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Releasing feral cats into an urban environment is something entirely different than having a barn cat that lives in and around a barn, hay shed or granaries. 


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Re: Feral chickens?
« Reply #71 on: November 07, 2016, 07:51:03 PM »
Well you didn't mention that.
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