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MF hunters get better dates again
« on: February 08, 2017, 04:07:39 PM »
Ok, why is our state again providing special permit dates for MF hunters right in the middle of the best/prime rut dates? Also the ML's are also getting prime time hunts while archery keep getting pushed back on dates. This make absolutely no sense when these hunters can reach out so far with their weapons and archery hunters are so limited in their capabilities with the equipment we choose.
 I am so frustrated with this state, I am hunting Idaho where archery hunters get to actually hunt like they should!

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Re: MF hunters get better dates again
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2017, 04:30:55 PM »
What exactly are you referring to? The 2017 seasons have been set for three years now and nothing has changed.

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Re: MF hunters get better dates again
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2017, 04:35:48 PM »
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Re: MF hunters get better dates again
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2017, 04:36:05 PM »
What exactly are you referring to? The 2017 seasons have been set for three years now and nothing has changed.
Think he's talking about the quality bull permit dates for Modern vs Muzzy vs Bow.  (Can use a bow in modern and put in for those permits.)

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Re: MF hunters get better dates again
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2017, 04:50:14 PM »
What exactly are you referring to? The 2017 seasons have been set for three years now and nothing has changed.
Think he's talking about the quality bull permit dates for Modern vs Muzzy vs Bow.  (Can use a bow in modern and put in for those permits.)
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Re: MF hunters get better dates again
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2017, 04:57:14 PM »
Okay, but what I'm saying is the seasons were set three years ago so why complain now? Soon they will be setting the seasons for the next three year cycle (2018-2020) so that is where we could see some changes.

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Re: MF hunters get better dates again
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2017, 08:15:25 PM »
Sorry Bobcat, got an email today on providing input on 2017/18 proposed hunting season changes. I assumed there are added changes if they are asking for input.

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Re: MF hunters get better dates again
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2017, 08:17:51 PM »
Pretty much all the changes this year are just adjusting the number of permits for a few areas. Feel free to comment that they should swap the MF and Archery dates though. I'd switch back to rifle.  :chuckle:

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Re: MF hunters get better dates again
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2017, 09:27:17 PM »
Well, the 2017 special permit numbers and seasons are posted so yes, that is new information, but it's all pretty much the same as it was in 2015 and 2016.

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Re: MF hunters get better dates again
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2017, 09:29:01 PM »
Here's a link to it for anyone who hasn't already seen it:

http://wdfw.wa.gov/about/regulations/2017/wsr_17-04-103.pdf

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Re: MF hunters get better dates again
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2017, 09:44:48 PM »
Ok, why is our state again providing special permit dates for MF hunters right in the middle of the best/prime rut dates? Also the ML's are also getting prime time hunts while archery keep getting pushed back on dates. This make absolutely no sense when these hunters can reach out so far with their weapons and archery hunters are so limited in their capabilities with the equipment we choose.
 I am so frustrated with this state, I am hunting Idaho where archery hunters get to actually hunt like they should!

Why do the archery hunters always get the general season during the rut?  Wouldn't it make sense to rotate the seasons to be fair to all - every third year your weapon of choice would be in september be it archery / ml / mf ???

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Re: MF hunters get better dates again
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2017, 09:56:44 PM »
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Re: MF hunters get better dates again
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2017, 10:07:30 PM »
Ok, why is our state again providing special permit dates for MF hunters right in the middle of the best/prime rut dates? Also the ML's are also getting prime time hunts while archery keep getting pushed back on dates. This make absolutely no sense when these hunters can reach out so far with their weapons and archery hunters are so limited in their capabilities with the equipment we choose.
 I am so frustrated with this state, I am hunting Idaho where archery hunters get to actually hunt like they should!

It was all set in the three year package that was discussed on here with links to comment.  Did you comment?

Next one is coming up soon.  Take the time to read and then comment!

It is a very open process.  The fact is the muzzy hunters made a good argument an got more opportunity.  Have to see how there harvest compares to others to really have an opinion.

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Re: MF hunters get better dates again
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2017, 10:11:16 PM »
Ok, why is our state again providing special permit dates for MF hunters right in the middle of the best/prime rut dates? Also the ML's are also getting prime time hunts while archery keep getting pushed back on dates. This make absolutely no sense when these hunters can reach out so far with their weapons and archery hunters are so limited in their capabilities with the equipment we choose.
 I am so frustrated with this state, I am hunting Idaho where archery hunters get to actually hunt like they should!

Why do the archery hunters always get the general season during the rut?  Wouldn't it make sense to rotate the seasons to be fair to all - every third year your weapon of choice would be in september be it archery / ml / mf ???

MF general rut hunt?  That would be a catastrophe in Washington.

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Re: MF hunters get better dates again
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2017, 11:52:24 PM »
The seasons are actually very fair.  Archery guys get the start of the rut and get out before all other hunters.  Muzzleloader guys get the peak of the rut.  Rifle hunters get the post rut when all the animals have been pushed all to hell.

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Re: MF hunters get better dates again
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2017, 05:12:02 PM »
Who cares? Bow hunters can hunt any season with their bow. And bow season is generally longer than the other two any ways. 3 chances to go hunt and extended on just archery season. If anyone bow hunts there's zero reason to complain.

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Re: MF hunters get better dates again
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2017, 05:17:51 PM »
The seasons are actually very fair.  Archery guys get the start of the rut and get out before all other hunters.  Muzzleloader guys get the peak of the rut.  Rifle hunters get the post rut when all the animals have been pushed all to hell.

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Re: MF hunters get better dates again
« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2017, 05:18:46 PM »
Who cares? Bow hunters can hunt any season with their bow. And bow season is generally longer than the other two any ways. 3 chances to go hunt and extended on just archery season. If anyone bow hunts there's zero reason to complain.

That's incorrect.  Everybody picks a weapon choice and hunts that season.  Only multi season recipients can hunt all se as on with archery gear.  Apologies in advance if I misunderstood your reasoning.
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Re: MF hunters get better dates again
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2017, 05:21:21 PM »
Who cares? Bow hunters can hunt any season with their bow. And bow season is generally longer than the other two any ways. 3 chances to go hunt and extended on just archery season. If anyone bow hunts there's zero reason to complain.

That's incorrect.  Everybody picks a weapon choice and hunts that season.  Only multi season recipients can hunt all se as on with archery gear.  Apologies in advance if I misunderstood your reasoning.

Ok. I interpreted the rules as use the weapon for that season or lesser weapon. I didn't see anything written that you had to be multi season permitted.

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Re: MF hunters get better dates again
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2017, 05:21:35 PM »
It's not true that muzzleloader season is at the peak of the rut. October 7-13. How's that the peak when the rut is in September?

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Re: MF hunters get better dates again
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2017, 05:35:40 PM »
It's not true that muzzleloader season is at the peak of the rut. October 7-13. How's that the peak when the rut is in September?

I hate the ML season this year! I will be switching to full archery or Multiseason from ML just because of these dates. If you're an ML guy push to get the pregeneral season quality bull tags back during the next season setting process!
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Re: MF hunters get better dates again
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2017, 05:48:51 PM »
The muzzleloader quality permit season opens September 30.

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Re: MF hunters get better dates again
« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2017, 04:45:09 PM »
Peak of the rut falls between 4-5 days either side of the autumn equinox which I think is the 22nd or 24th of September this year. Washington sucks compared to Oregon for archery OTC. They have a full month that ends during the peak of the rut. Washington has two weeks. On the other hand, OTC for MF in WA West side is 12 days and OR is 4 for any bull on the coast.

Conclusion... hunt OR archery, hunt WA MF.

The issue I have... I hunt Lewis River unit with 3 point or better. Most bulls taken out of there are rag horned deformed bulls. I feel that ANY BULL or SPIKE ONLY would bring better genetics back to the herd. My :twocents:

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Re: MF hunters get better dates again
« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2017, 04:58:37 PM »
We should just go to a draw only system in Washington. No more OTC tags.
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Re: MF hunters get better dates again
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2017, 05:08:05 PM »
We should just go to a draw only system in Washington. No more OTC tags.

How about no. It would only benefit those who input for a draw. I don't like a chance to go. I already miss out by buying my tags and something comes up for certain game seasons as is. It's already a chance if work or something else happens.

 

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