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Offline Cougartail

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Re: Cougars good or bad for the Cleman Mtn sheep herd?
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2017, 03:47:17 PM »
That unit met objectives on Jan 17 and is now closed. Dinner is served..

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Re: Cougars good or bad for the Cleman Mtn sheep herd?
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2017, 04:13:47 PM »
That unit met objectives on Jan 17 and is now closed. Dinner is served..

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Really wish Washington would hand out additional cougar tags.

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Re: Cougars good or bad for the Cleman Mtn sheep herd?
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2017, 05:47:29 PM »
the average age of cougars in yakima county that have been harvested in the past 3 years is 22-24 month. so the quota is being filled by the juveniles while the adults resume their ways. youth cougars are being killed because they are being kicked out of their parents territories. hence why they are easily killed along roads and near towns. they are looking for food so when the sheep come down on mt. clemens yes your correct dinner is served. another mismanagement practice of the bios at the department of fish and wildlife.
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Re: Cougars good or bad for the Cleman Mtn sheep herd?
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2017, 06:04:01 PM »
That unit met objectives on Jan 17 and is now closed. Dinner is served..

 :tup:
Really wish Washington would hand out additional cougar tags.
That unit met objectives on Jan 17 and is now closed. Dinner is served..

 :tup:
Really wish Washington would hand out additional cougar tags.
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Wow 5 dead sheep and units closed to protect lions? Thanks for the info cougar tail  beating a dead horse but Washington needs to quit protecting predators get em next year yakimanoob

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Re: Cougars good or bad for the Cleman Mtn sheep herd?
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2017, 06:13:12 PM »
That unit met objectives on Jan 17 and is now closed. Dinner is served..

 :tup:
Really wish Washington would hand out additional cougar tags.
That unit met objectives on Jan 17 and is now closed. Dinner is served..

 :tup:
Really wish Washington would hand out additional cougar tags.
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Wow 5 dead sheep and units closed to protect lions? Thanks for the info cougar tail  beating a dead horse but Washington needs to quit protecting predators get em next year yakimanoob

WDFW will never stop protecting predators.  :bash:

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Re: Cougars good or bad for the Cleman Mtn sheep herd?
« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2017, 06:18:58 PM »
Predators hunt to eat.  We hunt to eat.  It's been going on since the beginning of time.  Like the bio said, that area is pushing max capacity so it's not a huge travesty if a few become dinner.  You've got sheep up there dying of old age.  I'm by no means a predator lover but it's all part of the balance.  Carps area is just nuts down there though.  Where I used to see hundreds of deer during spring turkey I now see just a handful.  Cat sightings annually. 

Honestly why is there even a quota on cougars though?  Can't bait, can't run em with hounds.  Does fur and fins really think the fox pro masses are gonna even put a dent in their numbers :dunno:
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Re: Cougars good or bad for the Cleman Mtn sheep herd?
« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2017, 06:27:02 PM »
You are right Washington state needs to bring back hounds that's the issue huntwa should get together on. I think a lot of the cats we treed this year in Idaho were just overflow coming out of Washington caught a lot more in Idaho close to the border in Idaho and less the closer to the middle of the panhandle.

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Re: Cougars good or bad for the Cleman Mtn sheep herd?
« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2017, 07:22:07 PM »
You are right Washington state needs to bring back hounds that's the issue huntwa should get together on. I think a lot of the cats we treed this year in Idaho were just overflow coming out of Washington caught a lot more in Idaho close to the border in Idaho and less the closer to the middle of the panhandle.

You have my vote.  :tup:

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Re: Cougars good or bad for the Cleman Mtn sheep herd?
« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2017, 07:25:30 PM »
You are right Washington state needs to bring back hounds that's the issue huntwa should get together on. I think a lot of the cats we treed this year in Idaho were just overflow coming out of Washington caught a lot more in Idaho close to the border in Idaho and less the closer to the middle of the panhandle.

You have my vote.  :tup:


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Re: Cougars good or bad for the Cleman Mtn sheep herd?
« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2017, 07:36:40 PM »
I actually like mountain lions and regularly let females small toms go in Idaho where cats are hunted to death so I am not against lions at all. Washington is just completely over run with them and every other predator you need hounds back! I think that is the one thing hunt wa could get behind as a group to help your deer and elk

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Re: Cougars good or bad for the Cleman Mtn sheep herd?
« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2017, 07:50:52 PM »
I actually like mountain lions and regularly let females small toms go in Idaho where cats are hunted to death so I am not against lions at all. Washington is just completely over run with them and every other predator you need hounds back! I think that is the one thing hunt wa could get behind as a group to help your deer and elk

Couldn't agree more. If people were to run cats or bears with dogs or use baits. You could let the younger predators/females. You could actually take a big Tom or big bore. The elk/deer would strive back to the population it was 25+ years.
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Re: Cougars good or bad for the Cleman Mtn sheep herd?
« Reply #26 on: February 24, 2017, 08:03:01 PM »
I actually like mountain lions and regularly let females small toms go in Idaho where cats are hunted to death so I am not against lions at all. Washington is just completely over run with them and every other predator you need hounds back! I think that is the one thing hunt wa could get behind as a group to help your deer and elk


 

Couldn't agree more. If people were to run cats or bears with dogs or use baits. You could let the younger predators/females. You could actually take a big Tom or big bore. The elk/deer would strive back to the population it was 25+ years.
  Just my  :twocents:





 :tup:you could be the guy to push for hound hunting I think this forum could be the place hunters come together to get houndoggers back controlling predators the right way. I will have your back on this but being a non resident makes my voice less important I think. I read posts all the time complaining about the predator pit in Washington and I totally agree but hunt wa needs to take a stand TOGETHER and hounds would be the best first step bring back hounds! And include Idaho guys ha ha

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Re: Cougars good or bad for the Cleman Mtn sheep herd?
« Reply #27 on: February 24, 2017, 08:11:04 PM »
I know the guy who watched this one get killed by a cougar. He is still up there in one of my favorite draws. Horns rotting away.
No longer a WA resident.


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Re: Cougars good or bad for the Cleman Mtn sheep herd?
« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2017, 08:21:42 PM »
I know the guy who watched this one get killed by a cougar. He is still up there in one of my favorite draws. Horns rotting away.


Too bad you have to leave the horns to rot wonder why wdfw thinks lions aren't a problem seems like lots of evidence to the contrary

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Re: Cougars good or bad for the Cleman Mtn sheep herd?
« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2017, 09:11:46 PM »
I actually like mountain lions and regularly let females small toms go in Idaho where cats are hunted to death so I am not against lions at all. Washington is just completely over run with them and every other predator you need hounds back! I think that is the one thing hunt wa could get behind as a group to help your deer and elk


 

Couldn't agree more. If people were to run cats or bears with dogs or use baits. You could let the younger predators/females. You could actually take a big Tom or big bore. The elk/deer would strive back to the population it was 25+ years.
  Just my  :twocents:





 :tup:you could be the guy to push for hound hunting I think this forum could be the place hunters come together to get houndoggers back controlling predators the right way. I will have your back on this but being a non resident makes my voice less important I think. I read posts all the time complaining about the predator pit in Washington and I totally agree but hunt wa needs to take a stand TOGETHER and hounds would be the best first step bring back hounds! And include Idaho guys ha ha

Started a poll in virtual board. See if it's even possible/worth the time.

 

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