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Employer killing out of season?
« on: March 20, 2017, 11:08:29 AM »
Some advice with waterfowl, I work for a heavy equipment company that contracts out to local mills, now say the company that we contract to they deem geese "unsafe" because workers may slip on their poop.. yea their poo... which employees don't go anywhere near where these geese are.... so they shoot them it's out of season and currently mating season for them or they're gunna be having eggs here soon so my question... what should a person do? Mind their business and just say whatever or say something or call it in? Personally it pisses me off they do this because of well it's not in season I can't do it so they shouldn't and for preservation they just shoot and waste the meet as well
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Re: Employer killing out of season?
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2017, 11:13:41 AM »
My dad's golf club had a woman out walking in the morning slip on goose crap and slide 50 feet into a water hazard and she could not get out because it was so slippery and she nearly bit the dust right there.  I suggested some dead goose decoys to him and they bought some and that was the last of their problems with geese

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Re: Employer killing out of season?
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Re: Employer killing out of season?
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2017, 11:34:06 AM »
I'm pretty sure a private company cannot make that kind of decision, and, act on it (legally) w/o contacting WDFW.  How about a private logging company on state or USFS land deciding to shoot some elk because they were dropping spring elk pies on a right of way road job (forcing some timber fallers to slip in the gooey mess); don't think so.  There's really no way to sugar coat or tip toe around an illegal act; the right thing to do is probably either raise the issue to WDFW, or, at a minimum approach somebody from the company and let them know what they're doing is illegal and could carry a very large fine if caught.   
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Re: Employer killing out of season?
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2017, 11:39:25 AM »
You can report anonymously.

The way I understand it is that there is no $ available for waterfowl damage, only big game.  You/they have to work within the system of addressing any issues.  I don't know of a case where a private company was given the green light to go ahead and start shooting them.
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Re: Employer killing out of season?
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2017, 11:52:10 AM »
It's a Federal crime as well.  Report them to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service just for good measure.

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Re: Employer killing out of season?
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2017, 12:16:17 PM »
A company I used to work for annually had problem geese terminated. I don't know the process for getting it done but they hired a USDA sniper to do it. They  also used heavy equipment and the sniper would use various machines to shoot from in an effort to make the geese associate the machines with danger. Didn't work there long enough to say it was effective though. The company you mention probably could go another route if they wanted to. Just taking the easy way instead.
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Re: Employer killing out of season?
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2017, 12:16:38 PM »
You really need to ask if this is wrong?  Call wdfw right now and report them.  I really hope you didn't sit by and watch this happen.

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Re: Employer killing out of season?
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2017, 12:38:13 PM »
Didn't sit by and watch this happen, I guess they do it yearly and last year I started st this company soon after they did that so it should be happening soon and me as a hunter or sportsman I highly doubt I will be able to sit by and just watch as this happens
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Re: Employer killing out of season?
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2017, 01:11:55 PM »
They may be permitted. Resident geese are usually viewed as a nuisance by the state.  :dunno:
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Re: Employer killing out of season?
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2017, 01:28:32 PM »
I would report it and ask for a follow up to find out if it is permitted or if they are breaking the law.
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Re: Employer killing out of season?
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2017, 01:31:16 PM »
Employer killing out of season

I have wanted to kill my employer at times in the past. Did not know there was an open season on employers. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

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Re: Employer killing out of season?
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2017, 07:11:22 AM »
Ask yourself if you think what they're doing is right? Most would say you're morally/ethically obligated to either turn them in or confront them about it. Another option might be to ask a game warden, hypothetically, what someone can do if they're having problems with geese creating a hazardous work environment and then give the information to the management. It's a tough call, especially when your livelihood depends on their success.
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Re: Employer killing out of season?
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2017, 07:18:04 AM »
Is it possible the company or property owner has a permit or the legal ability to do this?
Geese can be a huge problem.
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