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Re: Subaru experience?
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2017, 11:58:17 PM »
One more (interesting comparison of the various AWDs out there):

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Re: Subaru experience?
« Reply #26 on: April 28, 2017, 06:01:37 AM »
That matches my experience on my hill this last snow storm, although a Honda pilot did pretty well with momentum.

It was pretty comical to watch people with their "AWD" spinning, sliding sideways as they discover physics, and then turning around in defeat.  The stopped start on a hill is actually a pretty realistic test.

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Re: Subaru experience?
« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2017, 06:04:56 AM »
Is that rain on the camera lens at the end of the test?  I like how both times the Subaru is tested it looks dry and clear.  Typical advertising...

The wife and I own a 3 year old outback and really like it.

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Re: Subaru experience?
« Reply #28 on: April 28, 2017, 06:35:52 AM »
Forgot to mention.....  when you your Subaru, get X-MODE:

It is truly incredible.

My wife's Forester has X-MODE........    Crazy good.


That's hard pack snow, try that in wet snow. :chuckle:
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Re: Subaru experience?
« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2017, 07:16:51 AM »
I am not a zealot by any means, but what that shows to me is an improvement over their earlier iterations where if you are cross-wise supported on diagonally opposed tires, with the opposites slipping, you can still move forward if conditions are otherwise appropriate.

I encountered this situation in an unimproved camp site in the Forester.

It's the same argument for lockers.  It's an improvement over earlier iterations or base features. It will never be a lifted jeep or small pickup with front and rear lockers.

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Re: Subaru experience?
« Reply #30 on: April 28, 2017, 07:40:03 AM »
We had an '07 outback. I liked it for a while, but it ended up costing us lot's of money. Oil consumption, head gaskets, AC went out, ($2000) etc, etc. A common problem is head gasket leaks which usually comes in around $3000 to fix. Some owners just consider this "maintenance". I don't and won't buy one again.

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Re: Subaru experience?
« Reply #31 on: April 28, 2017, 08:12:11 AM »
My Wife has a 15 forester   she loves the vehicle She Commuted in the 8in of wet snow from Newcastle to Issaquah earlier this year normally she would force me to drive  her This vehicle performed flawlessly and gave her the Confidence sha can drive in inclement weather  :twocents: 

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Re: Subaru experience?
« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2017, 08:19:28 AM »
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Re: Subaru experience?
« Reply #33 on: April 28, 2017, 08:31:32 AM »
I've had 2 Subaru trade-in's in the shop recently for pre-sale inspections. Both had blown head gaskets. Both went to the auction. One was a 2011 with ~100k miles on it.
I like the idea of a Subaru, but I don't like the idea that it's almost normal for them to blow head gaskets.
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Re: Subaru experience?
« Reply #34 on: April 28, 2017, 08:37:27 AM »
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Re: Subaru experience?
« Reply #35 on: April 28, 2017, 09:13:52 AM »
Over 12 years and about 200k, including being paid for about 8 of those years, we did head gaskets at about 100k, A/C at about 150K, and a broke timing belt (my fault) at about 175k.  All told about $8k in service excluding routine stuff (probably only about $5500 without broke timing belt).  Not bad, IMO, and we are ahead considering no payments and reduced insurance, if you reduced coverage.

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Re: Subaru experience?
« Reply #36 on: April 28, 2017, 10:00:24 AM »
We owned 2 with very good results, last one 2011 blew a head gasket at about 110,00 miles.  Dealer was very arrogant about it, kind of stating you gotta take the bad with the good and implied that was very common on them.  Said it was not worth much as a trade in ($3,000) and gave us a take it or leave price on a new one.  Went down the street to the Honda dealer who gave us a great trade in and very good deal on a CRV and we went that way. Never owned a Honda before, but so far we're happy with the car.  Used to love the Subarus, but think they've gotten a little too cocky about their product.

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Re: Subaru experience?
« Reply #37 on: April 28, 2017, 08:00:13 PM »
Forgot to mention.....  when you your Subaru, get X-MODE:

It is truly incredible.

My wife's Forester has X-MODE........    Crazy good.


That's hard pack snow, try that in wet snow. :chuckle:

They are AWESOME in wet snow.

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Re: Subaru experience?
« Reply #38 on: April 28, 2017, 08:15:50 PM »
"Subaru experience"...

Is this some sort of code for experimenting in college?
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Re: Subaru experience?
« Reply #39 on: April 28, 2017, 08:20:40 PM »
My experience with Subaru is that they're usually the slowest drivers on the road and love to park their cars in the left lane. Especially in bad weather.

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Re: Subaru experience?
« Reply #40 on: April 28, 2017, 08:50:15 PM »
My experience with Subaru is that they're usually the slowest drivers on the road and love to park their cars in the left lane. Especially in bad weather.

That's funny......   Mostly because I think I've noticed the same thing. 
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Re: Subaru experience?
« Reply #41 on: April 28, 2017, 08:53:52 PM »
I had a 98 legacy sedan with the 2.2L engine. Great car, got me everywhere I needed to go. Sold it because I needed a truck.

My wife has a 2010 Impreza we bought new. Also been a great car. High 20's for gas mileage. But the head gasket is starting weep a little oil, we're at 70K miles. Northwest Rally Sports does the work I don't want to. They'll be putting in the multi layer metal STI head gasket once the leak starts getting worse.

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Re: Subaru experience?
« Reply #42 on: April 28, 2017, 09:22:25 PM »
I own a cross trek and have really like it. It is very functional and capable, just upgrade the stock tires if you want to go off road.
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Re: Subaru experience?
« Reply #43 on: April 28, 2017, 09:31:49 PM »
My experience with Subaru is that they're usually the slowest drivers on the road and love to park their cars in the left lane. Especially in bad weather.

That's funny......   Mostly because I think I've noticed the same thing.

What's really funny is that I just got home and driving down I-5 tonight I was in the left lane in my Chevy Silverado and had THREE Subarus fly past me on the right.  This was only in about a 10 mile stretch of I-5. So.... from that I wouldn't say they're the slowest drivers on the road! 

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Re: Subaru experience?
« Reply #44 on: April 28, 2017, 10:19:56 PM »
If you have a slow oil weep, try replacing the valve cover gasket, grommets, and spark plug boot seals.  Easy and less than about $40 for the set, IIRC.

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Re: Subaru experience?
« Reply #45 on: April 29, 2017, 07:35:41 AM »
If you have a slow oil weep, try replacing the valve cover gasket, grommets, and spark plug boot seals.  Easy and less than about $40 for the set, IIRC.

That'll work well if the valve cover gaskets are seeping. Won't do squat if the head gaskets are leaking.

The head gaskets are known to leak coolant internally in the engine on them. Subaru at one point had a special policy warranty extension on them. I know this because I got my sister in law's done under warranty for her.  I don't recall the specifics on them, but you guys with head gasket leaks should be looking into this.
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« Reply #46 on: April 29, 2017, 07:54:40 AM »
They should have continued the Brat, I knew lots of hunters who owned those, including hound doggers and trappers.
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Re: Subaru experience?
« Reply #47 on: April 29, 2017, 08:19:25 AM »
If you have a slow oil weep, try replacing the valve cover gasket, grommets, and spark plug boot seals.  Easy and less than about $40 for the set, IIRC.

That'll work well if the valve cover gaskets are seeping. Won't do squat if the head gaskets are leaking.

The head gaskets are known to leak coolant internally in the engine on them. Subaru at one point had a special policy warranty extension on them. I know this because I got my sister in law's done under warranty for her.  I don't recall the specifics on them, but you guys with head gasket leaks should be looking into this.

What years have the head gasket issue?
I thought it was the 2.5l from 2011 and older?
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Re: Subaru experience?
« Reply #48 on: April 29, 2017, 09:18:51 AM »
If you have a slow oil weep, try replacing the valve cover gasket, grommets, and spark plug boot seals.  Easy and less than about $40 for the set, IIRC.

That'll work well if the valve cover gaskets are seeping. Won't do squat if the head gaskets are leaking.

The head gaskets are known to leak coolant internally in the engine on them. Subaru at one point had a special policy warranty extension on them. I know this because I got my sister in law's done under warranty for her.  I don't recall the specifics on them, but you guys with head gasket leaks should be looking into this.

Yeah. Should have been more specific.  Those seals/boots are a common leak, as is the oil cooler. For sure, ID the source before throwing parts at it.

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Re: Subaru experience?
« Reply #49 on: April 29, 2017, 09:31:48 AM »
They should have continued the Brat, I knew lots of hunters who owned those, including hound doggers and trappers.
If that's the model with the truck bed on it they still do. My coworker just bought one. We have an '15 outback with the 2.5 in it and it has plenty of power and we average about 29-33mpg on highway. We also added a Yakima carrier for extra room. The road noise isn't too bad and it's comfortable. I drove it up in the gravel roads above salmon,id this summer and it did fine. During snow and ice you can't make that thing spin out. The x-mode is cool and works well plus the back seats fold flat for extra storage and they also recline back a little for those that want to sleep. It's been a great car. We've had a few recalls and the passengers window popped off the track but I've had worse vehicles that needed repair more often. Use the recommended 0w-20 oil and drive it!

 

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