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Re: moose 10 pts or less?
« Reply #25 on: May 05, 2017, 11:21:51 AM »
I am pretty sure you paid WDFW off on that one.. :chuckle: :chuckle:

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Re: moose 10 pts or less?
« Reply #26 on: May 05, 2017, 08:49:45 PM »
A 10 year old kid drew 49 degrees north bull tag last year with 2 points and killed a 40" bull. It's the luck of the draw

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Re: moose 10 pts or less?
« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2017, 09:14:56 AM »
I drew 2 years ago with 18 points.  My brother Craig drew a really good tag the next year with 8.
If you want to get slightly better odds, swing for the fences on your first pic, and than go with the sleeper units with better odds.    That's what I did :tup:
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Re: moose 10 pts or less?
« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2017, 10:32:11 AM »
The reality is most guys/gals will never draw in Washington because there are too many hunters and not enough tags. If you really want to kill a moose, apply in Idaho. The tag and license is around $2350, but I drew a tag my second year applying. Some of there units are better than 1:4 for non-resident draw odds. :twocents:

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Re: moose 10 pts or less?
« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2017, 11:46:06 AM »
didnt there are sleeper units  except maybe spokane west and hangman maybe  i just look for what i can get around in

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Re: moose 10 pts or less?
« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2017, 12:34:33 PM »
didnt there are sleeper units  except maybe spokane west and hangman maybe  i just look for what i can get around in

If you are lucky enough to draw a tag in any WA unit, filling the tag should be the easy part. Even being handicapped, I have all the faith that you wouldn't have to worry about filling the tag if you're not trophy hunting. Many people on this forum, myself included, would have no problem helping you out if you are one of the few lucky ones to draw. The reality is most bulls are probably killed within a couple hundred yards of the road, so don't hold back or feel like you can't put in for some of the other units if you'd like to. Good luck to you in the draw! :tup:

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Re: moose 10 pts or less?
« Reply #31 on: May 07, 2017, 12:53:12 PM »
thats why i love this  place  and i would do some holding out  i put in for what looks like best odds usually  more tags

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Re: moose 10 pts or less?
« Reply #32 on: May 07, 2017, 03:47:12 PM »
in 2006 i drew any moose in 49 degree north, unit 117 i believe it was, with 1 point...yes i am "that guy"-sorry  :chuckle:  we spent 3 days before the opener camped in chewelaw and using enduro motorcycles scouting the area.  opening morning we walked in a gated road that we saw an area that bulls had been sparring...ground was all chewed up and patches of moose hair where everywhere.  we jumped a cow and had 2 different moose in the brush at less than 30 yards but couldn't get a clear shot-figured they were bulls but they moved off before i could identify them.  that evening driving to a spot that we had previously scouted a small bull we had a cow cross the road followed by a bull.  he just stood on the side of the road so i figured he was big enough and dropped him with a high shoulder shot from my buddies 338.  he measured 43 1/2 " and with the "pack out" i couldn't resist.  only regret was not shooting him with my bow i had with me as he was only 40 yards away but quartering and loading him into the truck sure was easy.  got him to the butcher and the quarters hung at 550 lbs.  wife wanted to do a shoulder mount but we didn't have enough room in the house so i got a euro.  can't wait for the new house to be completed to hang him back up.  he had a fresh scar down his nose and a broken rib from rutting.  funny thing was one of the guys that was with us scouting had to leave before the hunt and ran into someone at a dinner party who also had that tag.  He told him about the smaller bull we saw and the approximate mile marker on the road.  a couple days later that tag holder was driving up that same road around the same mile marker when he saw a vehicle pulled over.  he got out to see what was going on and the couple in the vehicle was taking pictures of that same bull moose just off the road drinking in the creek.  that tag holder went back to his truck, got his gun and shot that moose right there.  yes it can and does happen with limited points
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Re: moose 10 pts or less?
« Reply #33 on: May 07, 2017, 05:47:33 PM »
thats awesome

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Re: moose 10 pts or less?
« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2017, 10:00:11 AM »
I'll have 20 points this year. But have had my cousin draw his first ever year putting in. Another year my dad and brother both got drawn and they weren't partners. You just never know when it's your time to get lucky.

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Re: moose 10 pts or less?
« Reply #35 on: May 13, 2017, 10:39:29 AM »
I'll have 20 points this year. But have had my cousin draw his first ever year putting in. Another year my dad and brother both got drawn and they weren't partners. You just never know when it's your time to get lucky.
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Re: moose 10 pts or less?
« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2017, 11:23:40 AM »
My dad is one of about 4 people who has put in every year since the point system started and still not drawn(any moose)


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Re: moose 10 pts or less?
« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2017, 12:50:23 PM »
That is true. I've definitely have paid my dues and ready for a permit soon.

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Re: moose 10 pts or less?
« Reply #38 on: May 13, 2017, 12:53:34 PM »
My dad is one of about 4 people who has put in every year since the point system started and still not drawn(any moose)


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Only 4 people? I think there's a whole lot more people than that who have been applying for moose since the point system started and haven't drawn. I'm thinking maybe more like 4 hundred people.

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Re: moose 10 pts or less?
« Reply #39 on: May 13, 2017, 01:06:47 PM »
The reality is most guys/gals will never draw in Washington because there are too many hunters and not enough tags. If you really want to kill a moose, apply in Idaho. The tag and license is around $2350, but I drew a tag my second year applying. Some of there units are better than 1:4 for non-resident draw odds. :twocents:
I drew my first year. In a great unit where only 7 non residents even applied. This unit give a tag to non residents yearly.


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Re: moose 10 pts or less?
« Reply #40 on: May 13, 2017, 02:05:36 PM »
so i guess im in the game either way  looks like ill be going in with 9 this year

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Re: moose 10 pts or less?
« Reply #41 on: May 13, 2017, 02:10:23 PM »
My dad is one of about 4 people who has put in every year since the point system started and still not drawn(any moose)


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Only 4 people? I think there's a whole lot more people than that who have been applying for moose since the point system started and haven't drawn. I'm thinking maybe more like 4 hundred people.
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Re: moose 10 pts or less?
« Reply #42 on: May 13, 2017, 02:38:58 PM »
My son drew with one point when he was 9yrs old. The odds are always there for you if you keep playing

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Re: moose 10 pts or less?
« Reply #43 on: May 13, 2017, 04:53:29 PM »
BOB did you get that off the wdfw s9ite ?

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Re: moose 10 pts or less?
« Reply #44 on: May 13, 2017, 04:55:21 PM »
BOB did you get that off the wdfw s9ite ?
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Re: moose 10 pts or less?
« Reply #45 on: May 13, 2017, 08:55:39 PM »
I think the "top points" pool on each of the OIL tags is down to single digits


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Re: moose 10 pts or less?
« Reply #46 on: May 14, 2017, 01:44:24 AM »
thanks

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Re: moose 10 pts or less?
« Reply #47 on: May 14, 2017, 07:19:19 AM »
I'll have 20 points this year. But have had my cousin draw his first ever year putting in. Another year my dad and brother both got drawn and they weren't partners. You just never know when it's your time to get lucky.
Holy cow who does your family know at wdfw?? :chuckle:

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Re: moose 10 pts or less?
« Reply #48 on: May 14, 2017, 12:34:37 PM »
My dad is one of about 4 people who has put in every year since the point system started and still not drawn(any moose)


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Only 4 people? I think there's a whole lot more people than that who have been applying for moose since the point system started and haven't drawn. I'm thinking maybe more like 4 hundred people.

I thought that data was interesting, so I looked at what they showed for other categories. Across the board, the summaries show top-points applicants as drawing at a very low rate.

But at first glance, some of the numbers don't jibe 100%.
On the summary for antlerless deer, for example, here: http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/results/points/2016.php (don't now how to post the screen shot) shows 1 unsuccessful applicant with 21 points, another with 20 points, and 3 more with 19 points (all unsuccessful).

While it seems somewhat unlikely to not draw an antlerless deer permit with over 20 points (much less unlikely than for moose, imo), things get confusing when I look at the pfd by-hunt-breakdown of applicants here http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/results/points/2016category_points_antlerlessdeer.pdf
This report lists NO applicants with either 20 or 21 applying for any hunts, and it only lists 1 of the 3 with 19 points as applying unsuccessfully. I looked several times and I don't think I overlooked them.

The summary results for 2nd deer are even more confusing. It shows the overall rate of drawing (all tags divided by all apps) as 1:3.39.  Apps with 1 point drew at a rate of 1:3.87, while the top points apps (>12 pts) drew at a 1:40 rate. This makes no mathematical sense to me.

I'm not saying the results from moose are the same (I will look at that in more detail when I have time), but if it is- something is up  with those discrepancies. There could be a logical reason- like the summary includes points options and has them listed as unsuccessful- or it includes them as individual applicants who applied as a group. Or it could be the numbers are off somehow  :dunno:

Just thought it was interesting...
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Re: moose 10 pts or less?
« Reply #49 on: May 14, 2017, 01:04:54 PM »
There are several individuals with maximum points who apply for points only, which may be part of the reason they have max points.
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