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Re: 2017 Pronghorn antelope survey report
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2017, 05:15:04 PM »
Wyoming is in a steep decline with just over 300k head. Bringing some here may help their Antelope.It would be great if we could swing some kind of deal and bring in a few (10k-20k) to WA. to help them out.
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Re: 2017 Pronghorn antelope survey report
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2017, 10:20:53 AM »
The only way antelope are being brought in to the state is by the tribes.


I'll add my only beef......and that is that it's done properly.  The BS of bleeding for TB and shipping that day is a no-no and I'm still a bit bitter it is/was allowed.
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Re: 2017 Pronghorn antelope survey report
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2017, 12:06:57 PM »
Reducing the wild horse population on the reservation would help all wildlife, including pronghorn.

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Re: 2017 Pronghorn antelope survey report
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2017, 12:26:53 PM »
The BS of bleeding for TB and shipping that day is a no-no and I'm still a bit bitter it is/was allowed.

Translation?
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Re: 2017 Pronghorn antelope survey report
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2017, 12:36:13 PM »
The BS of bleeding for TB and shipping that day is a no-no and I'm still a bit bitter it is/was allowed.

Translation?

Blood test for tuberculosis and then ship them the same day without waiting for the results of said tests.
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Re: 2017 Pronghorn antelope survey report
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2017, 12:38:38 PM »
The BS of bleeding for TB and shipping that day is a no-no and I'm still a bit bitter it is/was allowed.

Translation?

Blood test for tuberculosis and then ship them the same day without waiting for the results of said tests.


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Re: 2017 Pronghorn antelope survey report
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2017, 01:05:34 PM »
Correct.

Here is a link to Oregon's rules about shipping cattle.

https://www.oregon.gov/ODA/programs/AnimalHealthFeedsLivestockID/AnimalImportExport/Pages/Cattle.aspx

Another link saying that you can't transport any infected animal.

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=16-54-065


Or you can re-read it here from a few years ago.

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,66202.100.html   Reply number 109 is where it started.

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Re: 2017 Pronghorn antelope survey report
« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2017, 06:21:17 PM »
sounds reasonable to me Gringo,Thanks for bringing that up i had no idea about that.
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Re: 2017 Pronghorn antelope survey report
« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2017, 07:26:51 AM »
Any idea what the cost was got the original two transplants?

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Re: 2017 Pronghorn antelope survey report
« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2017, 07:33:44 AM »
Any idea what the cost was got the original two transplants?

Not sure. The tribe and SCI footed the bill for it I believe. WDFW declined participation.
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Re: 2017 Pronghorn antelope survey report
« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2017, 07:46:40 AM »
Too bad the conditions weren't optimal for the survey, I agree that you can't base too many conclusions on the survey. One conclusion I see, it's disappointing that no collared animals were spotted. For me that indicates we have reproduction in the herd but there is very little longevity. Thanks for the info jackelope. :tup:
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Re: 2017 Pronghorn antelope survey report
« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2017, 08:16:47 AM »
To do it right, they should add new blood as well as fly for coyotes just prior to them fawning.
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Re: 2017 Pronghorn antelope survey report
« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2017, 08:24:20 AM »
To do it right, they should add new blood as well as fly for coyotes just prior to them fawning.

The survey was planned for earlier, but the weather was worse.

The other issue is finding volunteers to help with this sort of thing.  Plenty of folks are willing to put their .02 in a discussion forum like this, but when it's time for the rubber to hit the road, nobody is there to help. This is not aimed at you, Gringo. Just a general comment I've noticed.
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Re: 2017 Pronghorn antelope survey report
« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2017, 08:49:43 AM »
To do it right, they should add new blood as well as fly for coyotes just prior to them fawning.

The survey was planned for earlier, but the weather was worse.

The other issue is finding volunteers to help with this sort of thing.  Plenty of folks are willing to put their .02 in a discussion forum like this, but when it's time for the rubber to hit the road, nobody is there to help. This is not aimed at you, Gringo. Just a general comment I've noticed.

It's always been that way and probably always will. You can usually count on 1 or 2 hands the people who actually get involved. We live in a busy world, often times there are people who would like to help if they could but they simply can't for any of many obvious reasons.
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Re: 2017 Pronghorn antelope survey report
« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2017, 09:04:35 AM »
To do it right, they should add new blood as well as fly for coyotes just prior to them fawning.

The survey was planned for earlier, but the weather was worse.

The other issue is finding volunteers to help with this sort of thing.  Plenty of folks are willing to put their .02 in a discussion forum like this, but when it's time for the rubber to hit the road, nobody is there to help. This is not aimed at you, Gringo. Just a general comment I've noticed.

It's always been that way and probably always will. You can usually count on 1 or 2 hands the people who actually get involved. We live in a busy world, often times there are people who would like to help if they could but they simply can't for any of many obvious reasons.

I agree, and am guilty of it myself.
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Been there, (not) done that.
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