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Re: Mountain goat conflict reduction
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2017, 06:14:33 AM »
Seen a pretty nice billy up above Silver lake a couple years ago. That country is rugged where the goats hang out. I wouldn't waste your time applying unless your in good physical condition to hike and willing to cross country some sketchy spots to get a goat. :twocents:

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Re: Mountain goat conflict reduction
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2017, 03:53:03 PM »
Last year it was 100% success and 1 day per kill.

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Re: Mountain goat conflict reduction
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2017, 08:14:27 AM »
Last year it was 100% success and 1 day per kill.

I wonder how many of those were good Billy's?

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Re: Mountain goat conflict reduction
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2017, 11:37:20 PM »
when i draw this year i have a couple  plans.

attach my rifle to a drone and hire some young fellows to retrieve my kill.

or

ride in on a helicopter and have them come back when they hear me shoot.  :IBCOOL:

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Re: Mountain goat conflict reduction
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2017, 01:29:34 PM »
If it's possible for you to ride a horse (or worth it to you to hire a packtrain) it would be possible to ride up the Dungeness river trail, around Marmot pass, and out Tubal Cain trail in a single day, making a loop and you would have a very high chance of seeing goats right off the trail in the highest stretches of the route, starting around the Boulder shelter through the Buckhorn Lake area. The Billies tend to hang in the more isolated pockets though.

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Re: Mountain goat conflict reduction
« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2017, 03:21:04 PM »
Related question on goat conflict reduction hunts.

If you draw this tag, are you told by the State a specific area within the defined tag parameters, or specific goat to hunt?  Or can you hunt the whole defined area for the tag and take an animal of your choice?

I would not want to get drawn for this once in a lifetime tag and be told to take a young nanny....

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Re: Mountain goat conflict reduction
« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2017, 04:41:00 PM »
Related question on goat conflict reduction hunts.

If you draw this tag, are you told by the State a specific area within the defined tag parameters, or specific goat to hunt?  Or can you hunt the whole defined area for the tag and take an animal of your choice?

I would not want to get drawn for this once in a lifetime tag and be told to take a young nanny....


http://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/01903/wdfw01903.pdf


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Re: Mountain goat conflict reduction
« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2017, 04:57:25 PM »
Tagging along!
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Re: Mountain goat conflict reduction
« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2017, 05:06:20 PM »
So would peeing on the trail be considered "baiting" for goats?

That is why the goats were hanging out on the Mt. Eleanor trail. Hikers were peeing off the trail and the goats like the salt.
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Re: Mountain goat conflict reduction
« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2017, 11:24:32 PM »
Thanks for the info guys, I decided not to put in for it
You sure you know how to skin griz pilgram

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Re: Mountain goat conflict reduction
« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2017, 09:13:50 AM »
Related question on goat conflict reduction hunts.

If you draw this tag, are you told by the State a specific area within the defined tag parameters, or specific goat to hunt?  Or can you hunt the whole defined area for the tag and take an animal of your choice?

I would not want to get drawn for this once in a lifetime tag and be told to take a young nanny....


http://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/01903/wdfw01903.pdf


Yeah, that is what prompted my questions.  Was wondering if it was treated like a master hunter hunt where they tell you a specific place to go, and limit what you can and cannot take based on what the "conflict" was.
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Re: Mountain goat conflict reduction
« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2017, 12:17:34 PM »
I don't believe so and I don't see anything that insinuates that. There have been a few of these hunt stories posted on here. Don't recall anything like that happening.
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Re: Mountain goat conflict reduction
« Reply #27 on: May 31, 2017, 02:25:44 PM »
I hiked the area last year and there are lots of goats when the hikers start showing up to like the people's pee.  I have posted last year as well for people to really be sensitive to harvesting the goat.  If you get drawn please post on this site so you can kill your goat in the evening when no hikers are around and have enough help to pack it down quickly and safely with out any hikers seeing it. 

If you kill it in front of a bunch of hikers and they video it... This hunt is over.  The Federal Fish and Wildlife will kill them and no one will get to hunt them.
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Re: Mountain goat conflict reduction
« Reply #28 on: May 31, 2017, 02:46:21 PM »
Thanks TheHunt for reminding people of this. I think the winners of this tag should receive some sort of packet that would outline stuff like this. Everyone has video on there phone now, someone blows up a goat midday on the trail and we will get to watch the last hunt on Inside Edition

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Re: Mountain goat conflict reduction
« Reply #29 on: May 31, 2017, 03:07:12 PM »
No video, but found this on WTA from last year:

http://www.wta.org/go-hiking/trip-reports/trip_report.2016-09-20.2470366531

"20-30 people at the top that had to see the goat get killed"

Personally, I wouldn't let that stop me. I don't think I could pass up a legal goat in an effort to not offend someone, and hope that I can get one later in the day when nobody else is around.

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