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Offline MadMooner

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Fewest points to draw a sheep or goat tag?
« on: May 25, 2017, 11:36:03 AM »
Curious, what is the fewest points you have known someone to draw a WA goat or sheep tag with? Recent history, the last ten years or so.

I wonder how often someone miracles one out of their azz with only 1 or 2 points.

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Re: Fewest points to draw a sheep or goat tag?
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2017, 11:39:34 AM »
A member on here bought one raffle ticket and drew 1 of the ram raffle tags last year.
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Re: Fewest points to draw a sheep or goat tag?
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2017, 11:52:54 AM »
Nice!  Somebody has to get drawn!

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Re: Fewest points to draw a sheep or goat tag?
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2017, 11:57:54 AM »
My son drew Mt goat with 3 points a few years ago....... and then got his points restored due to a wdfw ruling. 
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Re: Fewest points to draw a sheep or goat tag?
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2017, 11:59:47 AM »
@GurrCentral, any comments   :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Re: Fewest points to draw a sheep or goat tag?
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2017, 12:46:42 PM »
I drew a goat tag in 1995 with 0 points.... but it took about 20 years of applying.   (this was before points)

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Re: Fewest points to draw a sheep or goat tag?
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2017, 12:52:00 PM »
I drew a permit in 1973 before the points system 1st and only year I applied. Goat

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Re: Fewest points to draw a sheep or goat tag?
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2017, 02:25:10 PM »
A buddy of mine drew a Clemens Mtn sheep tag with 3 points.

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Re: Fewest points to draw a sheep or goat tag?
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2017, 05:05:31 PM »
My son drew a 49 Degrees North Moose Tag when he was 11. Not the youth tag. He had two points. I have 20 points for the OIL tags and have never drawn.

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Re: Fewest points to draw a sheep or goat tag?
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2017, 06:20:35 PM »
Father in law drew a good sheep tag with 5pts. About 5 yrs ago.

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Re: Fewest points to draw a sheep or goat tag?
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2017, 09:17:04 PM »
@GurrCentral, any comments   :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

Once upon a time a 17yr old young man drew a coveted WA sheep tag with 3 points.....he is still grateful for all of the knowledge and help he acquired from a few guys crazy about bighorns! At the top of that list is some yahoo who goes by the name of DOUBLELUNG!! HAHA

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Re: Fewest points to draw a sheep or goat tag?
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2017, 10:21:42 PM »
Aaron drew with 6 points and scored on the current World Record Cali.
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Re: Fewest points to draw a sheep or goat tag?
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2017, 05:24:09 AM »
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Re: Fewest points to draw a sheep or goat tag?
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2017, 06:26:39 AM »
I don't like some of you guys now.... >:(





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Re: Fewest points to draw a sheep or goat tag?
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2017, 06:42:16 AM »
My dad drew Lincoln cliffs with 3 pts


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Re: Fewest points to draw a sheep or goat tag?
« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2017, 06:54:40 AM »
A buddie of mine drew huckleberry any moose with 4 points 2 years ago shot a nice bull opening morning
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Re: Fewest points to draw a sheep or goat tag?
« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2017, 07:25:18 AM »
By what the harvest reports say one gay got any ram with 4 points and one guy got goat with 6 that was last year. I should be able to pull a tag with 9 ;)
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Re: Fewest points to draw a sheep or goat tag?
« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2017, 09:05:05 AM »
I quickly pulled this from the bighorn draw stats from 2016:

3 with 21
2 with 20
2 with 19
4 with 18
1 with 17
1 with 15
2 with 14
2 with 13
1 with 11
2 with 10
1 with 9
1 with 4

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Re: Fewest points to draw a sheep or goat tag?
« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2017, 11:40:56 AM »
Nice!

I feel for the fellas with tons of points that don't get drawn year after year, but it's pretty damn cool to have a shot just starting to get in. I'd not put in if there wasn't any chance at all for 15+ years. 

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Re: Fewest points to draw a sheep or goat tag?
« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2017, 12:03:20 PM »
Depends on what you call a chance....


SHEEP ANY RAM
Points   Applications   Winning
Applications   Applicants   Winning
Applicants
23   5   0   5   0
22   6   0   6   0
21   392   3   394   3
20   212   2   212   2
19   228   2   236   2
18   412   4   422   4
17   398   1   405   1
16   444   0   454   0
15   520   1   536   1
14   593   2   609   2
13   575   2   594   2
12   657   0   673   0
11   702   1   721   1
10   789   2   805   2
9   816   1   845   1
8   838   0   856   0
7   929   0   957   0
6   988   0   1,006   0
5   967   0   988   0
4   1,169   1   1,187   1
3   1,285   0   1,315   0
2   1,771   0   1,796   0
1   2,178   0   2,201   0
SHEEP ANY RAM TOTAL   16,874   22   17,223   22
See Sheep Any Ram drawing results by hunt number [PDF]


The bottom 10,000+ people got one tag.
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Re: Fewest points to draw a sheep or goat tag?
« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2017, 12:08:53 PM »
Looking at that list makes me love Idaho's system that much more!

That being said my dad was fortunant last year to draw goat with far less than max points.
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Re: Fewest points to draw a sheep or goat tag?
« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2017, 12:50:24 PM »
Seems like not too long ago somebody drew lincoln cliffs with 1 point. Like 4-5 yrs back


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Re: Fewest points to draw a sheep or goat tag?
« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2017, 01:06:26 PM »
Yeah, but if you have 20+ points you almost have a 1% chance of drawing.  Start putting in at age 15 you will have 20 points by age 35.  If you haven't drawn by then, by the time you are 85 you would have had a 50% chance of drawing a tag - of course assuming no point creep.  Add in point creep and you are probably at 15%.

They should just run a traditional lottery for OIL tags.

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Re: Fewest points to draw a sheep or goat tag?
« Reply #23 on: May 26, 2017, 04:40:50 PM »
My son drew Mt goat with 3 points a few years ago....... and then got his points restored due to a wdfw ruling.

What is the story on this dan-o

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Re: Fewest points to draw a sheep or goat tag?
« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2017, 05:40:23 PM »
I think if they kept the app fee the same but had to front the 300+ dollars or so for the tag if drawn and get a refund it would drop applicants but wdfw would lose a bunch of money so wont ever happen... I have 20 points at age 29 and most likely will never draw any oil permit before my hunting career is over, but i do like the fact everyone has a chance.
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