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GA precision rifles anyone
« on: June 17, 2017, 08:51:16 PM »
Been looking at these guys for one of their non typical rifles in 300 win. Also looking at their crusader. Anyone have experience? I've read lots of good things

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Re: GA precision rifles anyone
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2017, 08:54:41 PM »
Some builders may perhaps be their equal, but IMO no one makes a better rifle.

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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2017, 09:25:19 PM »
Buy one! Once you have purchased another custom and another custom and another custom. You will figure it out, components only add up to so much. The rest is to the smith, funny how some claim to be premier builders at 4000.00 for a rifle when Krieger, Hart, Lilja, Pac-Nor and Bartlien have been here way longer and their record of performance is proven and charge less.🙃

Chambering a barrel isn't rocket science. You would be surprised at some of the old school lathes that are used to win world class matches but nobody talks about. 
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« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2017, 10:12:31 PM »
Buy one! Once you have purchased another custom and another custom and another custom. You will figure it out, components only add up to so much. The rest is to the smith, funny how some claim to be premier builders at 4000.00 for a rifle when Krieger, Hart, Lilja, Pac-Nor and Bartlien have been here way longer and their record of performance is proven and charge less.🙃

Chambering a barrel isn't rocket science. You would be surprised at some of the old school lathes that are used to win world class matches but nobody talks about.
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buy all the components you like and have a smith put 'em together.

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Re: GA precision rifles anyone
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2017, 10:59:25 PM »
Buy one! Once you have purchased another custom and another custom and another custom. You will figure it out, components only add up to so much. The rest is to the smith, funny how some claim to be premier builders at 4000.00 for a rifle when Krieger, Hart, Lilja, Pac-Nor and Bartlien have been here way longer and their record of performance is proven and charge less.🙃

Chambering a barrel isn't rocket science. You would be surprised at some of the old school lathes that are used to win world class matches but nobody talks about.
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buy all the components you like and have a smith put 'em together.

That's something GAP does quite well...

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Re: GA precision rifles anyone
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2017, 11:24:51 PM »
Save some scratch and do it yourself, buy some non res tags with the $$$ you save and go kill some stuff... no one  cares what your groups your gun shoots via  www..... at least I don't... killin is fun..
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Re: GA precision rifles anyone
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2017, 11:01:57 AM »
Save some scratch and do it yourself, buy some non res tags with the $$$ you save and go kill some stuff... no one  cares what your groups your gun shoots via  www..... at least I don't... killin is fun..

I seem to remember a thread a while back about this very concept. :chuckle:

I have and appreciate both the full custom jobs done by well known smiths as well as some hacksaw jobs done by local nobodies or myself on the floor of my garage. Whenever I can get away with it I try to avoid paying for aesthetics or a name and focus just on actual performance. I have Savages that I've assembled on the tailgate of my truck  for less than $500 spent on parts that shot .25 MOA when a good barrel was used. I've also owned $4000 custom guns that couldn't crack the .25 MOA mark no matter how hard I tried.

If you think of the gun as just a tool to do a job then I don't know that I'd spend the money on a GA precision. But if you think of it as more than a tool I doubt you'd be disappointed with one. Here's my example:

284 Win Savage Stiker that I built for $750 including the McGowen barrel and the muzzle brake. This is a workhorse gun that gets beat up, shot in the rain and snow, thrown in my pack and rolled in the dirt. It's capable of shooting groups in the .5 MOA range out to around 1000 yards. It's not fancy, I spray painted the stock to cover up some sanding that I did on it, and it's all scratched and nicked up from getting abuse over the last couple of years.


The 338 SnipeTac pistol cost a bit over $4000 in total cost of parts and labor to have Alex Wheeler build the gun and Joel Russo make the bubinga stock for it. This gun is more than just a tool that gets used and abused, it's a display of skilled craftsmanship and attention to detail.
 

Both serve a very different purpose and I see the high dollar semi customs like a GA Precision as more of a display of skill than offering any practical advantage. You could probably buy a rifle that would perform just as well for 30% of the cost but sometimes that's not the goal. I have to say though, if I could have found a way to slap together a 338 SnipeTac pistol in my garage for $1000 I'd have been all over that!

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Re: GA precision rifles anyone
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2017, 11:32:27 AM »
Save some scratch and do it yourself, buy some non res tags with the $$$ you save and go kill some stuff... no one  cares what your groups your gun shoots via  www..... at least I don't... killin is fun..

I seem to remember a thread a while back about this very concept. :chuckle:

I have and appreciate both the full custom jobs done by well known smiths as well as some hacksaw jobs done by local nobodies or myself on the floor of my garage. Whenever I can get away with it I try to avoid paying for aesthetics or a name and focus just on actual performance. I have Savages that I've assembled on the tailgate of my truck  for less than $500 spent on parts that shot .25 MOA when a good barrel was used. I've also owned $4000 custom guns that couldn't crack the .25 MOA mark no matter how hard I tried.

If you think of the gun as just a tool to do a job then I don't know that I'd spend the money on a GA precision. But if you think of it as more than a tool I doubt you'd be disappointed with one. Here's my example:

284 Win Savage Stiker that I built for $750 including the McGowen barrel and the muzzle brake. This is a workhorse gun that gets beat up, shot in the rain and snow, thrown in my pack and rolled in the dirt. It's capable of shooting groups in the .5 MOA range out to around 1000 yards. It's not fancy, I spray painted the stock to cover up some sanding that I did on it, and it's all scratched and nicked up from getting abuse over the last couple of years.

The 338 SnipeTac pistol cost a bit over $4000 in total cost of parts and labor to have Alex Wheeler build the gun and Joel Russo make the bubinga stock for it. This gun is more than just a tool that gets used and abused, it's a display of skilled craftsmanship and attention to detail.

Both serve a very different purpose and I see the high dollar semi customs like a GA Precision as more of a display of skill than offering any practical advantage. You could probably buy a rifle that would perform just as well for 30% of the cost but sometimes that's not the goal. I have to say though, if I could have found a way to slap together a 338 SnipeTac pistol in my garage for $1000 I'd have been all over that!

There you go again with all that, spot on, reasonable talk.  :tup:

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Re: GA precision rifles anyone
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2017, 02:32:38 PM »
Save some scratch and do it yourself, buy some non res tags with the $$$ you save and go kill some stuff... no one  cares what your groups your gun shoots via  www..... at least I don't... killin is fun..

I seem to remember a thread a while back about this very concept. :chuckle:

I have and appreciate both the full custom jobs done by well known smiths as well as some hacksaw jobs done by local nobodies or myself on the floor of my garage. Whenever I can get away with it I try to avoid paying for aesthetics or a name and focus just on actual performance. I have Savages that I've assembled on the tailgate of my truck  for less than $500 spent on parts that shot .25 MOA when a good barrel was used. I've also owned $4000 custom guns that couldn't crack the .25 MOA mark no matter how hard I tried.

If you think of the gun as just a tool to do a job then I don't know that I'd spend the money on a GA precision. But if you think of it as more than a tool I doubt you'd be disappointed with one. Here's my example:

284 Win Savage Stiker that I built for $750 including the McGowen barrel and the muzzle brake. This is a workhorse gun that gets beat up, shot in the rain and snow, thrown in my pack and rolled in the dirt. It's capable of shooting groups in the .5 MOA range out to around 1000 yards. It's not fancy, I spray painted the stock to cover up some sanding that I did on it, and it's all scratched and nicked up from getting abuse over the last couple of years.

The 338 SnipeTac pistol cost a bit over $4000 in total cost of parts and labor to have Alex Wheeler build the gun and Joel Russo make the bubinga stock for it. This gun is more than just a tool that gets used and abused, it's a display of skilled craftsmanship and attention to detail.

Both serve a very different purpose and I see the high dollar semi customs like a GA Precision as more of a display of skill than offering any practical advantage. You could probably buy a rifle that would perform just as well for 30% of the cost but sometimes that's not the goal. I have to say though, if I could have found a way to slap together a 338 SnipeTac pistol in my garage for $1000 I'd have been all over that!

There you go again with all that, spot on, reasonable talk.  :tup:

You're right, I must be off my game today. I normally condone more irrational and reckless spending! :chuckle:

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Re: GA precision rifles anyone
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2017, 05:45:20 PM »
Save some scratch and do it yourself, buy some non res tags with the $$$ you save and go kill some stuff... no one  cares what your groups your gun shoots via  www..... at least I don't... killin is fun..

I seem to remember a thread a while back about this very concept. :chuckle:

I have and appreciate both the full custom jobs done by well known smiths as well as some hacksaw jobs done by local nobodies or myself on the floor of my garage. Whenever I can get away with it I try to avoid paying for aesthetics or a name and focus just on actual performance. I have Savages that I've assembled on the tailgate of my truck  for less than $500 spent on parts that shot .25 MOA when a good barrel was used. I've also owned $4000 custom guns that couldn't crack the .25 MOA mark no matter how hard I tried.

If you think of the gun as just a tool to do a job then I don't know that I'd spend the money on a GA precision. But if you think of it as more than a tool I doubt you'd be disappointed with one. Here's my example:

284 Win Savage Stiker that I built for $750 including the McGowen barrel and the muzzle brake. This is a workhorse gun that gets beat up, shot in the rain and snow, thrown in my pack and rolled in the dirt. It's capable of shooting groups in the .5 MOA range out to around 1000 yards. It's not fancy, I spray painted the stock to cover up some sanding that I did on it, and it's all scratched and nicked up from getting abuse over the last couple of years.


The 338 SnipeTac pistol cost a bit over $4000 in total cost of parts and labor to have Alex Wheeler build the gun and Joel Russo make the bubinga stock for it. This gun is more than just a tool that gets used and abused, it's a display of skilled craftsmanship and attention to detail.
 

Both serve a very different purpose and I see the high dollar semi customs like a GA Precision as more of a display of skill than offering any practical advantage. You could probably buy a rifle that would perform just as well for 30% of the cost but sometimes that's not the goal. I have to say though, if I could have found a way to slap together a 338 SnipeTac pistol in my garage for $1000 I'd have been all over that!

Ya I don't really think of my guns as tools. Almost like a connection with them lol. What about the action and bolt you get from GA? Wouldn't that be impossible to find elsewhere? I know almost nothing when it comes to starting a custom build as I've never had a custom gun. I would like a McMillan stock I think painted by a guy that did one of my other guns for me it turned out really freakin sweet. I just want something that's insanely accurate and I want to get into long range shooting for fun but also a gun to use for elk hunting.

Very nice guns btw Yorke. I really like that snipetec very good looking

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Re: GA precision rifles anyone
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2017, 05:46:58 PM »
Save some scratch and do it yourself, buy some non res tags with the $$$ you save and go kill some stuff... no one  cares what your groups your gun shoots via  www..... at least I don't... killin is fun..

I already have all my out of state tags and I'm not really worried about sharing groups

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« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2017, 05:56:03 PM »
Copy get one then, sure you won't be disappointed. Where ya goin this year? Later
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« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2017, 06:02:55 PM »
Just looked spendy buggers.
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« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2017, 06:05:28 PM »
Copy get one then, sure you won't be disappointed. Where ya goin this year? Later

 Idaho Whitetail/Elk and Montana deer. Haven't made up my mind on the Montana tag if I'm going to keep it I might just buy a second Idaho deer tag and send it back in.

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« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2017, 06:06:02 PM »
Just looked spendy buggers.

I know why does everything fun and nice have to be expensive AF

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Re: GA precision rifles anyone
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2017, 06:11:43 PM »
Plane rentals aren't cheap either... Been doing that lately, but it's fun

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« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2017, 06:14:43 PM »
Dunno where your located but you might wanna check out Jeremy Laier down cosmopalis, he does some cool stuff...
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« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2017, 06:25:18 PM »
Save some scratch and do it yourself, buy some non res tags with the $$$ you save and go kill some stuff... no one  cares what your groups your gun shoots via  www..... at least I don't... killin is fun..

I seem to remember a thread a while back about this very concept. :chuckle:

I have and appreciate both the full custom jobs done by well known smiths as well as some hacksaw jobs done by local nobodies or myself on the floor of my garage. Whenever I can get away with it I try to avoid paying for aesthetics or a name and focus just on actual performance. I have Savages that I've assembled on the tailgate of my truck  for less than $500 spent on parts that shot .25 MOA when a good barrel was used. I've also owned $4000 custom guns that couldn't crack the .25 MOA mark no matter how hard I tried.

If you think of the gun as just a tool to do a job then I don't know that I'd spend the money on a GA precision. But if you think of it as more than a tool I doubt you'd be disappointed with one. Here's my example:

284 Win Savage Stiker that I built for $750 including the McGowen barrel and the muzzle brake. This is a workhorse gun that gets beat up, shot in the rain and snow, thrown in my pack and rolled in the dirt. It's capable of shooting groups in the .5 MOA range out to around 1000 yards. It's not fancy, I spray painted the stock to cover up some sanding that I did on it, and it's all scratched and nicked up from getting abuse over the last couple of years.


The 338 SnipeTac pistol cost a bit over $4000 in total cost of parts and labor to have Alex Wheeler build the gun and Joel Russo make the bubinga stock for it. This gun is more than just a tool that gets used and abused, it's a display of skilled craftsmanship and attention to detail.
 

Both serve a very different purpose and I see the high dollar semi customs like a GA Precision as more of a display of skill than offering any practical advantage. You could probably buy a rifle that would perform just as well for 30% of the cost but sometimes that's not the goal. I have to say though, if I could have found a way to slap together a 338 SnipeTac pistol in my garage for $1000 I'd have been all over that!

Would it be wrong to admit I get all warm inside every time I see these :dunno:

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« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2017, 10:41:13 PM »
Save some scratch and do it yourself, buy some non res tags with the $$$ you save and go kill some stuff... no one  cares what your groups your gun shoots via  www..... at least I don't... killin is fun..

I seem to remember a thread a while back about this very concept. :chuckle:

I have and appreciate both the full custom jobs done by well known smiths as well as some hacksaw jobs done by local nobodies or myself on the floor of my garage. Whenever I can get away with it I try to avoid paying for aesthetics or a name and focus just on actual performance. I have Savages that I've assembled on the tailgate of my truck  for less than $500 spent on parts that shot .25 MOA when a good barrel was used. I've also owned $4000 custom guns that couldn't crack the .25 MOA mark no matter how hard I tried.

If you think of the gun as just a tool to do a job then I don't know that I'd spend the money on a GA precision. But if you think of it as more than a tool I doubt you'd be disappointed with one. Here's my example:

284 Win Savage Stiker that I built for $750 including the McGowen barrel and the muzzle brake. This is a workhorse gun that gets beat up, shot in the rain and snow, thrown in my pack and rolled in the dirt. It's capable of shooting groups in the .5 MOA range out to around 1000 yards. It's not fancy, I spray painted the stock to cover up some sanding that I did on it, and it's all scratched and nicked up from getting abuse over the last couple of years.

The 338 SnipeTac pistol cost a bit over $4000 in total cost of parts and labor to have Alex Wheeler build the gun and Joel Russo make the bubinga stock for it. This gun is more than just a tool that gets used and abused, it's a display of skilled craftsmanship and attention to detail.

Both serve a very different purpose and I see the high dollar semi customs like a GA Precision as more of a display of skill than offering any practical advantage. You could probably buy a rifle that would perform just as well for 30% of the cost but sometimes that's not the goal. I have to say though, if I could have found a way to slap together a 338 SnipeTac pistol in my garage for $1000 I'd have been all over that!

Ya I don't really think of my guns as tools. Almost like a connection with them lol. What about the action and bolt you get from GA? Wouldn't that be impossible to find elsewhere? I know almost nothing when it comes to starting a custom build as I've never had a custom gun. I would like a McMillan stock I think painted by a guy that did one of my other guns for me it turned out really freakin sweet. I just want something that's insanely accurate and I want to get into long range shooting for fun but also a gun to use for elk hunting.

Very nice guns btw Yorke. I really like that snipetec very good looking

There are a ton of great custom actions out there to build off of. If I were going to build a repeater I'd take a long look at the Mausingfield. What's not to love about a controlled feed action with a Rem 700 foot print and savage barrel threads?

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« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2017, 11:42:53 PM »
Is resale a factor? If so, I'd go with a gap. Long wait at the moment unless you buy an In stock rifle.


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« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2017, 08:39:49 AM »
If you decide to go custom be sure to order ahead of time. some actions you can buy right away if you go to the right source. a custom inlet stock can take up to 6 months some of the McMillan's up to 4 weeks. then there is the smith, you have to be careful when they tell you 4 to 6 months when they really mean one year. I know several people who this has happened to so it can be frustrating. for me I have been fortunate to never wait that long the longest wait for me was 6 weeks my last build was a Rem action that needed a new barrel that was previously blueprinted it took 3 weeks including shipping to and from Texas from a very reputable smith who does a lot of bench rest work. I am not sure what Alex Wheeler's lead time is but he is from the bench rest world who applies those techniques to even his hunting rifle builds,Yorke could chime in on his lead time he is one of the best smiths out there he would be a good option for a smith. https://www.wheeleraccuracy.com/services-

Bottom line if you are going to spend that kind of money on your first custom you may as well go to one of the best smith in the country. the wait will be worth it. another option is Ryan Pierce http://www.piercisionrifles.com/ he has built a rifle for me and it only took 6 weeks with all the parts in hand. for my next build I think I may consider  Emil Kovan http://www.matchrifles.com/about.html

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« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2017, 11:43:11 AM »
Bump... really been thinking hard on pulling the trigger lately. Anyone have experience with manners carbon stock vs McMillan hunters edge?

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« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2017, 12:14:33 AM »
Bump... really been thinking hard on pulling the trigger lately. Anyone have experience with manners carbon stock vs McMillan hunters edge?
Toss up.  Manners will ship sample out to you,   I went manners eh1 but could of gone mcmillan a3.  Both great stocks.   
Figure 9 mo lead time. Stocks are running 6 mo as are some barrels and a tions. Hydrodip is 6 weeks lead time.  Add it all up = 9 mo.

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« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2017, 12:48:15 AM »
Bump... really been thinking hard on pulling the trigger lately. Anyone have experience with manners carbon stock vs McMillan hunters edge?
Toss up.  Manners will ship sample out to you,   I went manners eh1 but could of gone mcmillan a3.  Both great stocks.   
Figure 9 mo lead time. Stocks are running 6 mo as are some barrels and a tions. Hydrodip is 6 weeks lead time.  Add it all up = 9 mo.

Roger. What do you think about the hunters edge from McMillan? That a3 looks like it would be nice to shoot and so does the eh1.

Do you have a GAP magnumwillys?

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« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2017, 05:35:18 AM »
Dont have one . i think their actions are rebranded defiance ones - the best.
I like stocks with no drop at the top of buttplate so you can shoot prone and have a tall butt plate to soak up recoil.  Hunters edge fits that.  I like it .  Be my choice for an all around stock.   Would bump up to a 1" pad if shooting magnums.

 

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