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Re: What diesel pickup to get
« Reply #50 on: July 24, 2017, 12:36:21 PM »
As far as deletes go.....is that something that some shops will do for a customer or is that something a mechanic would/could get in trouble for doing?

It's illegal for the shops to do the deletes.  H&S got busted for removing emissions stuff and they basically got shut down.  Unfortunate because they made killer tuners which are now gone or on a black market.  Some dealers won't touch your truck if you have the emissions stuff removed, even if it's for an oil change.  Most will just turn their heads for an oil change.  But if you have a major issue, you might be searching around.

I have a 2012 cummins 6.7 fully deleted with an H&S mini maxx in it and 5" straight pipe turbo back.  If you're looking for better mileage, deleting is the only way to go on these newer diesels.  I am on 37's, but average around 18.5 - 19 with mine in a street tune going 75 on summer fuel.  If I knock it down to 60 I'll get 20-21 mpg.  I bought a 2012 because of the DEF fluid issue, which I agree isn't a big deal and you can even delete that too on the newer ones, and the 2012 only has one fuel filter.  In 2013 I believe they went to two fuel filters.  Everyone has their own opinions on the brands.  Knock on wood, I haven't had an issues and have several buddies with cummins and they haven't either aside from ball joints which are common on dodges.  Each brand has their own issues.

This isn't true, shops can delete vehicles all day long. 
You do however have to sign a form (if the shop is smart enough to cover their butt) saying that it's for "off highway or racing use only"  same as the disclaimer when you purchase these products from the internet. 

Not sure if a factory dealer will do it.  I know you lose your warranty in most if not all cases.

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Re: What diesel pickup to get
« Reply #51 on: July 24, 2017, 02:18:00 PM »
As far as deletes go.....is that something that some shops will do for a customer or is that something a mechanic would/could get in trouble for doing?

It's illegal for the shops to do the deletes.  H&S got busted for removing emissions stuff and they basically got shut down.  Unfortunate because they made killer tuners which are now gone or on a black market.  Some dealers won't touch your truck if you have the emissions stuff removed, even if it's for an oil change.  Most will just turn their heads for an oil change.  But if you have a major issue, you might be searching around.

I have a 2012 cummins 6.7 fully deleted with an H&S mini maxx in it and 5" straight pipe turbo back.  If you're looking for better mileage, deleting is the only way to go on these newer diesels.  I am on 37's, but average around 18.5 - 19 with mine in a street tune going 75 on summer fuel.  If I knock it down to 60 I'll get 20-21 mpg.  I bought a 2012 because of the DEF fluid issue, which I agree isn't a big deal and you can even delete that too on the newer ones, and the 2012 only has one fuel filter.  In 2013 I believe they went to two fuel filters.  Everyone has their own opinions on the brands.  Knock on wood, I haven't had an issues and have several buddies with cummins and they haven't either aside from ball joints which are common on dodges.  Each brand has their own issues.

This isn't true, shops can delete vehicles all day long. 
You do however have to sign a form (if the shop is smart enough to cover their butt) saying that it's for "off highway or racing use only"  same as the disclaimer when you purchase these products from the internet. 

Not sure if a factory dealer will do it.  I know you lose your warranty in most if not all cases.

Sorry, I was thinking of factory dealers, not all shops.  Should have clarified. 


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Re: What diesel pickup to get
« Reply #52 on: July 24, 2017, 02:25:44 PM »
Good info.  Thanks for answering my question.......for a while there I didn't think anyone would answer and I didn't feel like googling at this point.  I used to have an older early 90's diesel and that was before all the newer emissions crap.  I would like to get another diesel someday, but that won't be for a while. 
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Re: What diesel pickup to get
« Reply #53 on: July 24, 2017, 02:26:51 PM »
I believe most of the Dodge and Chevy dealers will do the chip/delete thingy because it's the only way they can run with the Ford.

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Re: What diesel pickup to get
« Reply #54 on: July 24, 2017, 03:46:20 PM »
I believe most of the Dodge and Chevy dealers will do the chip/delete thingy because it's the only way they can run with the Ford.

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Re: What diesel pickup to get
« Reply #55 on: July 24, 2017, 04:03:27 PM »
The best diesel truck is the one that's paid for...

I look at the price of a new one and I'm oh hell no!  No way I am pay $50,000+ or more for a fricken vehicle.
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Re: What diesel pickup to get
« Reply #56 on: July 24, 2017, 04:07:31 PM »
The best diesel truck is the one that's paid for...

I look at the price of a new one and I'm oh hell no!  No way I am pay $50,000+ or more for a fricken vehicle.


 :yeah: I saw a sticker price of $72,000.00 the other day. On a Dodge none the less! I wouldn't pay more than the cost of a decent cheeseburger for a Dodge. Not even because the mirrors go from pull mode to super pull mode.

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Re: What diesel pickup to get
« Reply #57 on: July 24, 2017, 04:29:05 PM »
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Re: What diesel pickup to get
« Reply #58 on: July 24, 2017, 04:44:48 PM »
Yea, they are crazy expensive.  My F150 eco boost, 4X4 crew cab was $33K.  That was the cheapest I could get.  Buying a diesel F250 or F350 is crazy expensive.  What about a F450 or F550? 
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Re: What diesel pickup to get
« Reply #59 on: July 24, 2017, 04:49:15 PM »
Deals can be had if you shop around and have time on your side. 

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Re: What diesel pickup to get
« Reply #60 on: July 24, 2017, 06:02:51 PM »
The best diesel truck is the one that's paid for...

I look at the price of a new one and I'm oh hell no!  No way I am pay $50,000+ or more for a fricken vehicle.


 :yeah: I saw a sticker price of $72,000.00 the other day. On a Dodge none the less! I wouldn't pay more than the cost of a decent cheeseburger for a Dodge. Not even because the mirrors go from pull mode to super pull mode.

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Re: What diesel pickup to get
« Reply #61 on: July 24, 2017, 07:08:08 PM »
 :yeah: I see that all the time. :chuckle:
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Re: What diesel pickup to get
« Reply #62 on: July 24, 2017, 07:10:32 PM »
I like to call them ghost trailers. Then look at there faces when you tell them there ghost trailer has a flat

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Re: What diesel pickup to get
« Reply #63 on: July 24, 2017, 07:31:44 PM »
Our Ford broke down in the middle of an intersection. Tow truck driver said 90% of the diesel trucks he tows are Ford and 10% are Chevys... So we traded in the Ford for a Ram never happier.

Seems like most people go Dodge for the Cummins engine or Chevy for the Allison transmission, unless they're "Ford Guys" then they just pick a color.

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Re: What diesel pickup to get
« Reply #64 on: July 24, 2017, 07:46:33 PM »
Kball4,

Thanks for creating this entertaining thread, I've really enjoyed it.

 Between myself, my dad and my hunting buddy we all drive one of the big 3. All of us are also extremely happy with our choice. When I bought mine I was looking for the best deal  I could find, didn't care about the make. The only Ford I would look at was the 6.7. I ended up buying a Chevy and could not be happier. Just be sure to check them all out and try not to be brand loyal. Be sure to check out the Ford passenger floorboard. If I'm not mistaken, there is a lot lot less foot room compared to the Dodge and Chevy.

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Re: What diesel pickup to get
« Reply #65 on: July 24, 2017, 07:46:44 PM »
Our Ford broke down in the middle of an intersection. Tow truck driver said 90% of the diesel trucks he tows are Ford and 10% are Chevys... So we traded in the Ford for a Ram never happier.

Seems like most people go Dodge for the Cummins engine or Chevy for the Allison transmission, unless they're "Ford Guys" then they just pick a color.

I always take advice from the Tow Truck guy when it comes to spending 70K on a truck. I bet you he was a Dodge guy like the other Dodge guys on the forum who say only Fords break down and they've never had a problem with their Dodge. hahalol... Go to the Ford Forum and tell them you're ready to buy a Dodge. You'll get tow truck driver advice.

If a Dodge mechanic tells you Dodges are the best, I'd be asking him how he has a job?  :chuckle: Then, you get to make the old, "well, no mechanic just changes oil"... hahahaa
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Re: What diesel pickup to get
« Reply #66 on: July 24, 2017, 07:51:56 PM »
If you want to get something your wife will like best get a chevy. If you want something your daddy and grandpappy drove get a ford.  If you just want best bang for the buck get a Ram. Not  rocket science.

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Re: What diesel pickup to get
« Reply #67 on: July 24, 2017, 07:53:30 PM »
The best diesel truck is the one that's paid for...

I look at the price of a new one and I'm oh hell no!  No way I am pay $50,000+ or more for a fricken vehicle.

 :yeah: I saw a sticker price of $72,000.00 the other day. On a Dodge none the less! I wouldn't pay more than the cost of a decent cheeseburger for a Dodge. Not even because the mirrors go from pull mode to super pull mode.

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Love the guys that drive around in "pull mode"  hey Cool guy, makes your truck 10 feet wide!

:chuckle:  Having a Dodge, I still make fun of guys who run around with their tow mirrors out when not pulling.  Keep those things folded down!  Hell, even with most trailers you don't need them out.  I saw a meme the other day that said the moose migration was happening and it was a bunch of Dodge owners with their tow mirrors out going down the freeway. 

And deals can be had.  Do you homework.  I bought mine from Montana.  Everyone around here wanted about $50k for the same truck.  I picked mine up from a head mechanic at a dealership over there for $37k with all of the maintenance records and history.  If you don't mind traveling out of state, you'll save yourself some money.   I've since dumped some money in it, but I'm fine with it.   


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Re: What diesel pickup to get
« Reply #68 on: July 24, 2017, 07:53:56 PM »
If you want to get something your wife will like best get a chevy. If you want something your daddy and grandpappy drove get a ford.  If you just want best bang for the buck get a Ram. Not  rocket science.

Lol,  when my wife first saw our truck she said "wow, this is a truck".

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Re: What diesel pickup to get
« Reply #69 on: July 24, 2017, 09:08:30 PM »
  I had an '08 F-350, super nice, great truck. The 4th time we had the cab taken off for warranty repairs, I traded it in on a Dodge. Those bolts that hold the cab on are expensive. The AC needs to be evacuated and recharged each time. I just saw the writing on the wall and knew it was going to be a money pit.

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Re: What diesel pickup to get
« Reply #70 on: July 24, 2017, 09:23:47 PM »
I'm just sticking with my 1999 5speed Cummins 272k miles on it and 20 mpg.


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« Reply #71 on: July 24, 2017, 09:28:39 PM »
I'm just sticking with my 1999 5speed Cummins 272k miles on it and 20 mpg.


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Re: What diesel pickup to get
« Reply #72 on: July 24, 2017, 09:36:42 PM »
I'm just sticking with my 1999 5speed Cummins 272k miles on it and 20 mpg.


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Re: What diesel pickup to get
« Reply #73 on: July 24, 2017, 10:08:33 PM »
I'm just sticking with my 1999 5speed Cummins 272k miles on it and 20 mpg.


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What diesel pickup to get
« Reply #74 on: July 24, 2017, 10:38:54 PM »
I work for a Ford service department and my pay plan is commission based solely off the repair work I sell. Last year I made more money than I ever have before.
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