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So picking up a boat today...
« on: July 26, 2017, 12:27:14 PM »
Getting a boat tonight. Title for boat and trailer.
Looks to be a 14ft olymic? With a 50hp evinrude. Friend of the family, just doesn't do boats think he got it in a trade along time ago.

Any advice for these style boats? I literally have only every operated a tiller driven john boat.  Plan to rebuild the whole interior down to the hull.
Tips, tricks, things to look out for?
« Last Edit: July 26, 2017, 01:29:11 PM by Smossy »
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Re: So picking up a free boat today...
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2017, 12:44:34 PM »
Rot – especially in the deck and the transom
Cracks & missing gel coat in the fiberglass
Corrosion
Stiff or stuck steering
Take the whole fuel system apart and clean everything – replace all hoses – rebuild the carbs,
Make sure you include the fuel tank in the cleaning
Electrical – check or replace all the wiring.  Odds are it has turned to green powder.
There’s more.  And when you thing are done, there’s still more.

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Re: So picking up a free boat today...
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2017, 12:46:17 PM »
While I've never rebuilt a boat as you've suggested, I've worked on crappy boats my whole life.  Rebuilding your interior is going to cost more than you think and it may not be super worth it from a financial standpoint (you'll probably never get that money back out of it).  If it were me, I'd clean up the inside enough to tolerate, get the motor running reliably, and use it until you're ready for an upgrade.

14' is pretty small if you intend to take it on the salt.  It wont be too long before you're having fun, but sometimes a little scared and your wife asks for an upgrade.

Also, there's always another, larger, "free boat" available somewhere.  Thats always the standing joke, there's no such thing as a free boat.  Seems to be the inverse, the cheaper they are the more they tend to cost you in the long run.

If its just a fun project, then power to you...

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Re: So picking up a free boat today...
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2017, 12:47:17 PM »
Today is one of two of the happiest days of a boat owners life, the day he gets his boat.   

The second day is the day he gets rid of it....  :chuckle:

Actually looks like a decent project. 

One of the few things I know to look for is after you get it stripped down, look close for rot (both obvious and hidden) around the transom, on the bottom, and along any seams. 

Have fun and start a thread of its restoration and if you don't how much each part of the process costs.  Would be interesting to know how much a "free" boat really costs.
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Re: So picking up a free boat today...
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2017, 12:58:43 PM »
While I've never rebuilt a boat as you've suggested, I've worked on crappy boats my whole life.  Rebuilding your interior is going to cost more than you think and it may not be super worth it from a financial standpoint (you'll probably never get that money back out of it).  If it were me, I'd clean up the inside enough to tolerate, get the motor running reliably, and use it until you're ready for an upgrade.

14' is pretty small if you intend to take it on the salt.  It wont be too long before you're having fun, but sometimes a little scared and your wife asks for an upgrade.

Also, there's always another, larger, "free boat" available somewhere.  Thats always the standing joke, there's no such thing as a free boat.  Seems to be the inverse, the cheaper they are the more they tend to cost you in the long run.

If its just a fun project, then power to you...
Yeah maybe I'll just do that, make it tolerable. We had planned on getting a new 16 ft jon boat soon then this came around.. Maybe I'll just get the motor working solid if it isn't already and save that for the jon. :chuckle:
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Re: So picking up a free boat today...
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2017, 12:59:12 PM »
Thanks for the quick heads up. Already have me thinking differently. I still want my new boat.
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Re: So picking up a free boat today...
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2017, 01:00:41 PM »
It appears to be a simple boat in fair condition and the engine looks like a fine old twin cylinder Evinrude 2 stroke, they are hard to kill.  Check the compression 1st thing, you don’t want to waste too much time if the engine is toast.


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Re: So picking up a free boat today...
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2017, 01:01:59 PM »
First thing I would do is grease the trailer wheel bearings.

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Re: So picking up a free boat today...
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2017, 01:05:05 PM »
First thing I'd do is make sure the tires are road worthy.  Don't want to lose the new boat before you get it home.
Looks like a decent little boat for the price, and if it doesn't work out you could probably dump it for a few hundred bucks

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Re: So picking up a free boat today...
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2017, 01:05:21 PM »
It appears to be a simple boat in fair condition and the engine looks like a fine old twin cylinder Evinrude 2 stroke, they are hard to kill.  Check the compression 1st thing, you don’t want to waste too much time if the engine is toast.


Got it. Need to pick up a compression tester. Out of the 1000s of tools it seems the in laws have we don't have one of them
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Re: So picking up a free boat today...
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2017, 01:08:05 PM »
Motor looks to be in ok condition from the outside.
I'll check it out tonight when I go grab it.
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Re: So picking up a free boat today...
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2017, 01:12:54 PM »
I stripped down the guts of an older boat, stripped to the fiberglass for inspection. Then I just relayed in marine grey carpet throughout, used the 3M spray adhesive. Maybe cost $50-60 for everything. Don't need all the built in cubby' space and what .Then you have a blank canvas for seats, rod holders and storage.

Of course, mine was geared more towards an open, clear area for fishing....
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Re: So picking up a free boat today...
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2017, 01:14:01 PM »
No such thing as a free pet or a free boat.

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Re: So picking up a free boat today...
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2017, 01:16:25 PM »
I stripped down the guts of an older boat, stripped to the fiberglass for inspection. Then I just relayed in marine grey carpet throughout, used the 3M spray adhesive. Maybe cost $50-60 for everything. Don't need all the built in cubby' space and what .Then you have a blank canvas for seats, rod holders and storage.

Of course, mine was geared more towards an open, clear area for fishing....
Pretty much exactly what I had in mind. I'm into open room to drop fish in boat or crab pots w.e
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Re: So picking up a free boat today...
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2017, 01:19:38 PM »
You'll need this:


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Re: So picking up a free boat today...
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2017, 01:20:57 PM »
I stripped down the guts of an older boat, stripped to the fiberglass for inspection. Then I just relayed in marine grey carpet throughout, used the 3M spray adhesive. Maybe cost $50-60 for everything. Don't need all the built in cubby' space and what .Then you have a blank canvas for seats, rod holders and storage.

Of course, mine was geared more towards an open, clear area for fishing....
Pretty much exactly what I had in mind. I'm into open room to drop fish in boat or crab pots w.e


 :tup: probably got yourself a sweet little fish getter. Make sure to check the bearings / grease on that trailer.

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Re: So picking up a free boat today...
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2017, 01:28:14 PM »
There a specific tool to put grease into the wheels? Or just a general Greas gun?
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Re: So picking up a free boat today...
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2017, 01:28:43 PM »
You'll need this:


Even though it's a 50hp?
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Re: So picking up a free boat today...
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2017, 01:32:58 PM »
If it floats, use it as is until it sinks. Looks like you have a newer style Teleflex steering which is good. Shouldn't need more than maybe a little grease here and there. Yes- trailer. Inspect and re-pack bearings first.

I wouldn't do much to it involving any amount of money. Maybe plugs, new fuel lines and fuel. More than likely, based upon looking at the picture of it uncovered and sitting out, the stringers are almost certain to be wet and those lead you into the transom likely being wet. Only cure for wet stringer/transom is 100% replacement and if you can't do it yourself I doubt anyone would do it on a boat like this one. If it runs and you can have some fun for a while use it for that and don't put a dime into it. Use it as is would be my recommendation. If the seats are shot, throw them on the next bon fire and use some camp chairs.
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Re: So picking up a free boat today...
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2017, 01:38:09 PM »
You'll need this:


Even though it's a 50hp?

Sorry, wrong manual.  They have a 48 to 235hp - make sure that it covers the right year.  What year is the engine?


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Re: So picking up a boat today...
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2017, 01:42:52 PM »
You'll need this:


Even though it's a 50hp?

Sorry, wrong manual.  They have a 48 to 235hp - make sure that it covers the right year.  What year is the engine?


No info on anything yet. I'll pull vin tonight and get age. Never seen the boat in person.
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Re: So picking up a boat today...
« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2017, 01:49:04 PM »
Make sure the trailer can get the boat home, it's all work to keep you out of trouble after that :tup:  Have fun  and don't forget what BOAT stands for - Bring On Another Thousand :chuckle:

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Re: So picking up a boat today...
« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2017, 01:50:28 PM »
Meh, I'm probably going to catch crap for this, but I'd find it very hard to believe that you can't get that motor running, even if compression is low.  It doesn't have enough corrosion on it to have seen the salt very much (and its not quite big enough for serious salt use).  I'm sure you can get that motor going with a carb(s) cleaning, new plugs and a new battery.  Only outstanding issue you might face is needing a new water pump, which is a pain in the butt.  I'd also change the lower unit oil.  If you really want to compression test it, go "rent" the compression tester at oreillys and save your money.  You can check them out for free by paying full price and then returning them, its a program they have.  Still, I've seen several of these evinrudes run when compression levels were at the mid 80s PSI mark, they just start a little rough.

I bet you'll be fine.

Most boat trailer wheel bearings have standard zerk fittings for grease.

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Re: So picking up a boat today...
« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2017, 02:04:47 PM »
80 PSI on both cylinders, sure that will run, but a twin with one cylinder near zero won’t.  I had a 6 cyl Merc once that had 1 bad cylinder, it ran Okay but really dirty, spit raw gas out the exhaust.  I retired it.

A cheap tester is about $15 or borrow one like you suggest.  It’s a 5 minute test and tells a lot. 




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Re: So picking up a boat today...
« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2017, 02:30:49 PM »
Meh, I'm probably going to catch crap for this, but I'd find it very hard to believe that you can't get that motor running, even if compression is low.  It doesn't have enough corrosion on it to have seen the salt very much (and its not quite big enough for serious salt use).  I'm sure you can get that motor going with a carb(s) cleaning, new plugs and a new battery.  Only outstanding issue you might face is needing a new water pump, which is a pain in the butt.  I'd also change the lower unit oil.  If you really want to compression test it, go "rent" the compression tester at oreillys and save your money.  You can check them out for free by paying full price and then returning them, its a program they have.  Still, I've seen several of these evinrudes run when compression levels were at the mid 80s PSI mark, they just start a little rough.

I bet you'll be fine.

Most boat trailer wheel bearings have standard zerk fittings for grease.
Being I was basically just handed a evinrude 50 i think it would be a crime to atleast not attempt to get it running. Same thing with my 9.9 evinrude. Didn't start, got it to start then wouldn't run, more work and it runs great. Just takes some tinkerin. I actually wouldn't mind gutting the boat. Putting in carpeted floors and seats and basically calling it good. Possibly new steering setup if it's needed.
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