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Offline Smossy

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Re: So picking up a boat today...
« Reply #50 on: July 27, 2017, 02:33:10 PM »
Maybe your cable just came disconnected from the helm.  Why do you think you need a new one?

Looked broken to me, had a piece on top snap off in my hand but I have no idea if it was of importance.. I'll have to get under there and actually mess with it this weekend.
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Re: So picking up a boat today...
« Reply #51 on: July 27, 2017, 03:58:35 PM »
Maybe your cable just came disconnected from the helm.  Why do you think you need a new one?

Looked broken to me, had a piece on top snap off in my hand but I have no idea if it was of importance.. I'll have to get under there and actually mess with it this weekend.
I'll follow up with some photos to pick everyone's brains with.

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Re: So picking up a boat today...
« Reply #53 on: July 28, 2017, 05:16:38 PM »
I tried to find any other way to start this, I take it needs a key?
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Re: So picking up a boat today...
« Reply #55 on: July 28, 2017, 06:19:48 PM »
Regardless whats been said in here I'm gonna gut this thing and start over. Including the wiring. Not much to it and what I need on it for my own desires is relatively easy. Just getting steering setup and a new throttle will be the just of the cost. Given the motor is in running condition. Looks to be but that really is the same as guessing what a book is about by checking out the cover.  Btw floors are fiberglass. Solid as a rock still. Transom does appear to be alittle worn. Might have to pull off the motor and do some reinforcing.
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Re: So picking up a boat today...
« Reply #56 on: July 28, 2017, 10:40:08 PM »

Cable steering is illegal. Its a Teleflex. Not cables.

Well that’s an interesting statement.  I’ve owned more than few boats over the years and they have all had something like this in the steering system:

You've never owned an old boat with cable steering which is obvious by this post.
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Re: So picking up a boat today...
« Reply #57 on: July 28, 2017, 10:49:06 PM »
Here is the basic steering package you will need. $300 with tax. https://www.westmarine.com/buy/seastar-solutions--no-feedback-4-2-rotary-system--P006_182_001_004?recordNum=15

Replacement controls will be tough to find. There is an outboard junkyard I found some time ago in Olympia area. Don't recall the name. He sells used control packs for about $250each. No guarantees.

I'd make sure your rebuilt budget is about $1,500 if the motor runs good. Steering, electrical, tune up, wheel bearing kit, trailer wiring is gonna be at minimum $1,000. Add in new batteries, lights for the boat and trailer and you're getting up there quick without a couple hundred bucks in glue and carpet.
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Re: So picking up a boat today...
« Reply #58 on: July 29, 2017, 09:10:36 AM »
Here is the basic steering package you will need. $300 with tax. https://www.westmarine.com/buy/seastar-solutions--no-feedback-4-2-rotary-system--P006_182_001_004?recordNum=15

Replacement controls will be tough to find. There is an outboard junkyard I found some time ago in Olympia area. Don't recall the name. He sells used control packs for about $250each. No guarantees.

I'd make sure your rebuilt budget is about $1,500 if the motor runs good. Steering, electrical, tune up, wheel bearing kit, trailer wiring is gonna be at minimum $1,000. Add in new batteries, lights for the boat and trailer and you're getting up there quick without a couple hundred bucks in glue and carpet.
Seems rasonable.
Kinda how i look at it is spend 1500 on a boat setup ready to go and still probably works. Or i can spend that into restoring a boat and everything virtually new.
Found a helm on offerup for 40$ NIB
Confirmed yesterday that my helm is in fact broken. The throttle works but without a key it's useless.
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Re: So picking up a boat today...
« Reply #59 on: July 29, 2017, 04:40:27 PM »
I tried to find any other way to start this, I take it needs a key?

Looks like you will need a new ignition switch.  They are about $20-$25. 

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Re: So picking up a boat today...
« Reply #60 on: July 29, 2017, 05:12:01 PM »
I tried to find any other way to start this, I take it needs a key?

Looks like you will need a new ignition switch.  They are about $20-$25. 
Are they pretty specific to each model or universal??
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Re: So picking up a boat today...
« Reply #61 on: July 29, 2017, 05:58:55 PM »
I tried to find any other way to start this, I take it needs a key?

Looks like you will need a new ignition switch.  They are about $20-$25. 
Are they pretty specific to each model or universal??

Just Google "1983 OMC ignition switch"

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Re: So picking up a boat today...
« Reply #62 on: July 29, 2017, 06:19:46 PM »
Welcome to the joys of new boat ownership.  Also interesting to hear how a free boat can lead to spending a couple hundred bucks.

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Re: So picking up a boat today...
« Reply #63 on: July 29, 2017, 06:48:16 PM »
How would I bypass the key ignition on the throttle, does anyone have an idea?  I doubt it comes out of the throttle to be replaced.
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Re: So picking up a boat today...
« Reply #64 on: July 29, 2017, 10:04:22 PM »
You can open the control box pull the lock cylinder and remove the tumblers. Then it will start with any key, screw driver, or replace it with a switch.

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Re: So picking up a boat today...
« Reply #65 on: July 29, 2017, 10:30:42 PM »
I tried to find any other way to start this, I take it needs a key?

The keys are universal. A John Deere key filed down will probably fit it.
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Re: So picking up a boat today...
« Reply #66 on: July 29, 2017, 10:33:42 PM »
You can open the control box pull the lock cylinder and remove the tumblers. Then it will start with any key, screw driver, or replace it with a switch.

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I forgot a key on my yearly banks lake trip. Found a key that fit and worked in Wilber at the hardware store. But, you will never be able to rewire the controls. Don't even try. Wont work
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Re: So picking up a boat today...
« Reply #67 on: July 29, 2017, 10:36:59 PM »
I've done this all before. I'd you don't have the motor running perfectly right now without everything else....stop. You're in too deep.
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Re: So picking up a boat today...
« Reply #68 on: July 29, 2017, 10:39:17 PM »
I've done this all before. I'd you don't have the motor running perfectly right now without everything else....stop. You're in too deep.
Can't run the motor if I don't have a key to start it.
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Re: So picking up a boat today...
« Reply #69 on: July 29, 2017, 10:47:50 PM »
I've done this all before. I'd you don't have the motor running perfectly right now without everything else....stop. You're in too deep.
Can't run the motor if I don't have a key to start it.
it is just an ignition switch.can be picked up at any boat dealer for 20 30 bucks.yes smossy uopu can take the plastick nut that holds that key switch to the housing off.contact 2 of the wires with say a screw driver and if starter is good battery is charged it will turn over.if it will run it will even start  :tup:
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Re: So picking up a boat today...
« Reply #70 on: July 29, 2017, 11:30:36 PM »
I've done this all before. I'd you don't have the motor running perfectly right now without everything else....stop. You're in too deep.
Can't run the motor if I don't have a key to start it.
it is just an ignition switch.can be picked up at any boat dealer for 20 30 bucks.yes smossy uopu can take the plastick nut that holds that key switch to the housing off.contact 2 of the wires with say a screw driver and if starter is good battery is charged it will turn over.if it will run it will even start  :tup:
Thanks I'll give it a try. I have a fresh battery to.
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Re: So picking up a boat today...
« Reply #71 on: July 30, 2017, 01:57:04 AM »
I tried to find any other way to start this, I take it needs a key?

Looks like you will need a new ignition switch.  They are about $20-$25. 
Are they pretty specific to each model or universal??

Just Google "1983 OMC ignition switch"

Is it the Push to choke "OMC Push-to-Choke Ignition Switch"

$19.05 with Free one day Prime Shipping Amazon
Sierra MP39760 3-Position Ignition Switch, This has the six prongs and push to choke.

And if it is not a direct replacement I will send you the $20.00

I will take it one step further if you want, Send me your address and I will buy it and have it sent to your address and then you send me $20.00. You have my address I have decals that were mailed to me.

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Re: So picking up a boat today...
« Reply #72 on: July 30, 2017, 02:58:57 AM »
Part is ordered.

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Re: So picking up a boat today...
« Reply #73 on: July 30, 2017, 03:12:50 AM »
Thanks dave. Owe ya.
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Re: So picking up a boat today...
« Reply #74 on: August 03, 2017, 12:22:33 PM »
Is it running yet?


 

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