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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2017, 12:54:30 PM »
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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2017, 01:06:23 PM »
Glad to see these guys taking initiative and going with it
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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2017, 01:26:56 PM »
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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2017, 02:24:28 PM »
Go get them!

What was preventing them from hinting the north half before?

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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2017, 02:37:00 PM »
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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2017, 03:00:31 PM »
Go get them!

What was preventing them from hinting the north half before?

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Well probably because its not on the reservation so it made things a little murky for them legally. They do have traditional hunting rights up there so one could have probably argued all along for the hunting of wolves on the "north half". Either way this is good news.

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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2017, 03:40:23 PM »
Great for them!

Can we encourage them to takeout a few thousand sealions as well?
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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2017, 07:37:57 PM »
That link took me to a story about depredation removals of two wolves on OR?
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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2017, 08:22:22 AM »
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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2017, 08:28:49 AM »
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I find it very interesting how as long as it doesn't involve deer or elk, the tribes get so much support... 

Where are the "Same laws for everybody" or the "I don't care what they do as long as they stay on the reservation" protesters now???
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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2017, 09:08:14 AM »
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I find it very interesting how as long as it doesn't involve deer or elk, the tribes get so much support... 

Where are the "Same laws for everybody" or the "I don't care what they do as long as they stay on the reservation" protesters now???
Exactly my thought.  I'm all for hunting and managing wolves but letting a certain ethnic group of people have special hunting and fishing rights is a very slippery slope. 

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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2017, 09:16:16 AM »
I want to be able to hunt wolves, keep the tribe on the res. for now.
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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2017, 10:21:23 AM »
I want to be able to hunt wolves, keep the tribe on the res. for now.


Washington has enough wolves now that WDF&Wolves could delist several times over, that being said WDF&Wolves will not delist until they are forced to do so. As far as hunting said wolves, I expect they will fight WA residents on that also. Look at the BS wolf plan they gave the people of WA as an example of their workings.

So any wolves the Tribe kills is a definite plus for the ungulates and perhaps livestock in those areas. :tup:

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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2017, 10:37:05 AM »
Which, by allowing this, just continues to allow WDFW to drag out the delisting process...
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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2017, 11:41:00 AM »
Which, by allowing this, just continues to allow WDFW to drag out the delisting process...


WDF&Wolves don't need a reason to drag out delisting, we have already seen they are playing the numbers game, and will continue on that course until wolves become a big enough problem that they have no choice but to delist.

The only wolf control WA will get, will have to come from the public etc..

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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2017, 12:04:02 PM »
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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2017, 12:20:55 PM »
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I find it very interesting how as long as it doesn't involve deer or elk, the tribes get so much support... 

Where are the "Same laws for everybody" or the "I don't care what they do as long as they stay on the reservation" protesters now???

My understanding is the Colville tribe does a good job of wildlife management. Why complain when they are once again managing wildlife in a way we agree with?

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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2017, 12:27:07 PM »
They have been doing it for years but quietly.
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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2017, 07:03:07 AM »
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I find it very interesting how as long as it doesn't involve deer or elk, the tribes get so much support... 

Where are the "Same laws for everybody" or the "I don't care what they do as long as they stay on the reservation" protesters now???
i don't know that I've seen those complaints about the. collville tribe, the do an excellent job of managing there game and probably have the best deer hunting in the state. The yaks and the mucks are the rotten apples. If they all followed suit with the colville I think you'd see a lot less negative feelings toward natives in general 
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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2017, 07:25:53 AM »
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I find it very interesting how as long as it doesn't involve deer or elk, the tribes get so much support... 

Where are the "Same laws for everybody" or the "I don't care what they do as long as they stay on the reservation" protesters now???
i don't know that I've seen those complaints about the. collville tribe, the do an excellent job of managing there game and probably have the best deer hunting in the state. The yaks and the mucks are the rotten apples. If they all followed suit with the colville I think you'd see a lot less negative feelings toward natives in general
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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2017, 08:03:21 AM »
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I find it very interesting how as long as it doesn't involve deer or elk, the tribes get so much support... 

Where are the "Same laws for everybody" or the "I don't care what they do as long as they stay on the reservation" protesters now???
Exactly my thought.  I'm all for hunting and managing wolves but letting a certain ethnic group of people have special hunting and fishing rights is a very slippery slope.

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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2017, 08:27:56 AM »
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I find it very interesting how as long as it doesn't involve deer or elk, the tribes get so much support... 

Where are the "Same laws for everybody" or the "I don't care what they do as long as they stay on the reservation" protesters now???
i don't know that I've seen those complaints about the. collville tribe, the do an excellent job of managing there game and probably have the best deer hunting in the state. The yaks and the mucks are the rotten apples. If they all followed suit with the colville I think you'd see a lot less negative feelings toward natives in general

You are ignorant Jdb. Generalization of 14,000 as rotten apples. Guy's like you drive the wedge of division deeper and deeper. 

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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2017, 02:32:10 PM »
Legal wolf hunting by the tribes was probably a plan encouraged by WDFW to share in the blame game on wolf killings, since they are tired of taking all the heat.  The tribes have hunting right authority which is backed by the federal gov't, so now some of the blame shifts from state to federal.  Makes sense to me.  I agree that it may delay the delisting, but that is only if they report the wolves taken.  Remember, don't shoot the collared ones!
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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #26 on: August 08, 2017, 02:49:16 PM »
Any and every excuse will be used to delay the delisting. We will not hunt wolves in my lifetime in WA. We'll see hunting ended before they sell wolf tags.
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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #27 on: August 08, 2017, 05:59:56 PM »
Nothing new here, the tribes told WDFW this is exactly what they would do, in public meetings, before the WAG existed.  The agency folks smiled sweetly and moved on.

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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2017, 06:39:01 PM »
Any and every excuse will be used to delay the delisting. We will not hunt wolves in my lifetime in WA. We'll see hunting ended before they sell wolf tags.
How will hunting the north half delay delisting? They are already delisted in the eastern third.  Add to that the criteria has been met west of there and it dilutes your statement even more.  The south cascades are the obstacle that  is blocking "delisting". I do agree that the plan does not fit our state though.

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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #29 on: August 08, 2017, 06:46:22 PM »
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http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,216558.msg2882424.html#msg2882424

I find it very interesting how as long as it doesn't involve deer or elk, the tribes get so much support... 

Where are the "Same laws for everybody" or the "I don't care what they do as long as they stay on the reservation" protesters now???
i don't know that I've seen those complaints about the. collville tribe, the do an excellent job of managing there game and probably have the best deer hunting in the state. The yaks and the mucks are the rotten apples. If they all followed suit with the colville I think you'd see a lot less negative feelings toward natives in general

You are ignorant Jdb. Generalization of 14,000 as rotten apples. Guy's like you drive the wedge of division deeper and deeper.
so your going to argue that the yakimas and the mucks manage their game wisely?? Who's the ingnorant one here?
« Last Edit: August 08, 2017, 06:56:08 PM by jdb »
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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #30 on: August 08, 2017, 06:54:43 PM »
Any and every excuse will be used to delay the delisting. We will not hunt wolves in my lifetime in WA. We'll see hunting ended before they sell wolf tags.

I somewhat agree, I think eventually the feds will delist western WA and then WDFW may delist wolves in the state at which time there will be political pressure to hunt wolves in NE WA. But as soon as any hunting season is potentially possible we will see a ballot initiative for a state law prohibiting wolf hunting and that might pass.

I'm glad to hear the Colville's are going to hunt wolves on the north half, it may be the only wolf season to occur in NE WA ever!
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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #31 on: August 08, 2017, 07:08:20 PM »
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I find it very interesting how as long as it doesn't involve deer or elk, the tribes get so much support... 

Where are the "Same laws for everybody" or the "I don't care what they do as long as they stay on the reservation" protesters now???
i don't know that I've seen those complaints about the. collville tribe, the do an excellent job of managing there game and probably have the best deer hunting in the state. The yaks and the mucks are the rotten apples. If they all followed suit with the colville I think you'd see a lot less negative feelings toward natives in general

You are ignorant Jdb. Generalization of 14,000 as rotten apples. Guy's like you drive the wedge of division deeper and deeper.
so your going to argue that the yakimas and the mucks manage their game wisely?? Who's the ingnorant one here?
Your ignorance exudes! You have no clue what contribution Muckleshoot makes to all wildlife and the way they manage. 

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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #32 on: August 08, 2017, 07:11:58 PM »
Please enlighten me, on all the good they do. Seriously if they're doing good things out there to promote our natural resources I'd like to know about it
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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #33 on: August 10, 2017, 06:15:26 PM »
The Federal delisting has happened, but when the State delisting happens, we will be able to hunt wolves.  That's the delisting that I think will be delayed, and maybe for a lifetime as previously mentioned.
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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #34 on: August 10, 2017, 07:02:04 PM »
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I find it very interesting how as long as it doesn't involve deer or elk, the tribes get so much support... 

Where are the "Same laws for everybody" or the "I don't care what they do as long as they stay on the reservation" protesters now???
i don't know that I've seen those complaints about the. collville tribe, the do an excellent job of managing there game and probably have the best deer hunting in the state. The yaks and the mucks are the rotten apples. If they all followed suit with the colville I think you'd see a lot less negative feelings toward natives in general

You are ignorant Jdb. Generalization of 14,000 as rotten apples. Guy's like you drive the wedge of division deeper and deeper.
so your going to argue that the yakimas and the mucks manage their game wisely?? Who's the ingnorant one here?
Your ignorance exudes! You have no clue what contribution Muckleshoot makes to all wildlife and the way they manage.

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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #35 on: August 10, 2017, 07:04:15 PM »
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http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,216558.msg2882424.html#msg2882424

I find it very interesting how as long as it doesn't involve deer or elk, the tribes get so much support... 

Where are the "Same laws for everybody" or the "I don't care what they do as long as they stay on the reservation" protesters now???
i don't know that I've seen those complaints about the. collville tribe, the do an excellent job of managing there game and probably have the best deer hunting in the state. The yaks and the mucks are the rotten apples. If they all followed suit with the colville I think you'd see a lot less negative feelings toward natives in general

You are ignorant Jdb. Generalization of 14,000 as rotten apples. Guy's like you drive the wedge of division deeper and deeper.
so your going to argue that the yakimas and the mucks manage their game wisely?? Who's the ingnorant one here?
Your ignorance exudes! You have no clue what contribution Muckleshoot makes to all wildlife and the way they manage.

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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #36 on: August 10, 2017, 07:08:45 PM »
Managing them to extinction
nuke the gray whales for jesus!

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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #37 on: August 10, 2017, 07:19:06 PM »
Managing them to extinction
:dunno: It's more like a pointed effort on herd health, mortality causes, population trends, establishing a data set, hundreds of active collars on multiple species, limited seasons,  predator management,  collaboration with other managers....... I could go on.

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Re: Northeast Washington Tribe To Begin Hunting Wolves Off Reservation
« Reply #38 on: August 10, 2017, 08:18:09 PM »
 :chuckle:  managing  :chuckle:  mucks and management are 2 words that just don't go together no matter how hard they try. :chuckle:  I'm gonna stop now as the BS that comes out of broke back is comical at best.  :chuckle: 
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