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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #50 on: August 12, 2017, 05:10:12 PM »
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« Reply #51 on: August 12, 2017, 05:13:49 PM »
I've joined several forums just to get specific issues answered: photo, GPS, automotive, etc. Users are generally willing to share information freely because it has no effect on them.

That's not true with hunting information. If I tell someone where to hunt, it may hurt my opportunities. If it's someone I don't know and he hasn't demonstrated any effort on his own then I am probably inclined to not provide much specific help. Hunters are reluctant to share information that may adversely affect their own hunting. That's understandable to us.

New hunters may not understand that. They come on with one post asking for help, just like I and they do on other forums, expecting to get some information.

I've asked for and have been given help by multiple members. A lot of it occurs via PMs.  Again, new members don't realize the barriers in place when asking for help or how best to ask.

I think the solution is for experienced hunters to understand that new members are just that, and not answer in such a way that they are turned off and give up.


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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #52 on: August 12, 2017, 05:13:53 PM »
I really enjoy this site. I like to post positive comments on other members success and their willingness to share. I usually go back and forth at the end of every hunting season as to whether or not I'm going to share my hunts. I try to help when I can, and have seldom asked for help. That being said, when I have asked for help and advice (usually via PM) I've gotten some really great advice from good people.

This site is like any other on the web... you will always get the good with the bad. People are people. Some are cool, and some suck... I do know that when I choose to post something that I will get a majority of good positive comments along with the inevitable negative comment. (Especially if you have shot a big animal, or found a big antler... for some reason the hate/jealousy just pours out when that happens).

Anyways, I enjoy this site and am on it everyday. The majority of the time I'm just reading other posts. When I do post, I don't get worked up over other people's negativity. I just enjoy the good people on here and look past the people who seem to live for shooting other people down or looking for flaws.

I appreciate all of you hunters out there that have the same passion that I do. To all of you guys, thanks for sharing your experiences, advice and knowledge. Hunting season is finally upon us! Another thing that really helps this site, haha :tup:

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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #53 on: August 12, 2017, 05:18:23 PM »
Keep it up guys. I'm taking in every word.

 :yeah: glad to see folks opening up with their thoughts
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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #54 on: August 12, 2017, 05:23:50 PM »
 :BearPaw...thank you for even starting this thread...I have often wanted to say what I said but figured I would just be putting a Target on my back. I really do enjoy this site and look forward to positive changes to come...and to be more involved.
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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #55 on: August 12, 2017, 05:30:46 PM »
I posted earlier about what makes me think. Twice about posting pics.   

But I have gotten tons of great help from people here.   And I have met a bunch of members.    I'm glad to know every single one I've met. 

That FAR outweighs any negatives.   
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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #56 on: August 12, 2017, 05:56:03 PM »
For me, I have always been more of a listener than a talker. I will try to post something when I feel like I have something to add to a conversation, but that doesn't happen often. I just feel like there are a lot more knowledgeable people on this site than me.

I almost always get some form of entertainment from this site. Mostly enjoy reading the positive and try to ignore the negative. Trick is learning when it is better to move on from a topic than to get pulled into one. Maybe I would post more if I knew how to let people know I am being sarcastic sometimes. :P

I think that too many times I see the result of a society (not just this site) that is quick with a short vague text response without thinking about how it can be interpreted. Then someone responds back without actually reading what the original post was about. And then the fight is on. We as a society have forgotten the art of conversation.

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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #57 on: August 12, 2017, 06:12:33 PM »
I find that when people ( new to the area or new hunters) ask questions people always assume they want a honey hole and don't get any help. I joined because there is a lot of knowledge here from other hunters but it seams that it takes a lot for people to share. Case in point new hunter down by Vancouver asked where he could take his kids out most of the responses were look in the reg book or go the the F&G office and get maps WTH you guys know areas that you could have suggested but instead of helping you kind of blew him off. That's why I don't ask or post on here hardly anymore. I thought this site was supposed to welcome and educate new hunters with your wealth of experiences
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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #58 on: August 12, 2017, 06:17:05 PM »
I totally quit the gun etc boards, got sick if being told how wrong I was, how only x y z was the right or real deal and basically got tired of one or two dudes with a penis mea surfing contest.  I left the politics for much the same.  I quit the advocacy again thevsame.  I hang out in the Bigfoot thread mostly because my friends are there.  I hang out in the women's board because men aren't in there answering all the questions desiring a female perspective.

So yes I used to post a lot now just isn't worth it.
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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #59 on: August 12, 2017, 06:43:36 PM »
Before OT, threads were edited, locked or rude people banned.  It kept civility(is that a word?) amongst members.  Things were still discussed like Hawks, Obama, laws, etc. but with OT it has attracted people who are basically only interested in these things.  It fosters and breeds it, resulting in a growing change to the forum.  More of this unfiltered rhetoric by more people interested in this.  It is a cancer overtaking its host and poisoning the host life in the process.  Nitpicking, resentments, internet police, pic geotagging etc all of it is fostered from the negative OT forum imop.  Before OT we could still discuss the same things but it was civil, respectful and rude jerks were not tolerated.  Huntwa is a victim of its own success.  A downhill turn will soon follow if it hasn't happened yet.  I find myself thinking would my life be better without it?  Hmm, some times I think yes after reading the not so nice stuff.  I am a person who has zero time on facebook in my life so I may see things different. :dunno:  A few people I referred to this site checked on it and told me ya its cool, some good info but no thanks its like facebook with know it all and judgey dogooders.  I am far from innocent in regards to OT posts but at least I recognize the problem.  I don't tell stories, post pics or offer up much anymore.  I used too.  I will say all members I have met have been really good people and that is because of this site so thank you.  Its tough for Bearpaw and Mods to keep order and people happy but you all do a good job so I trust you will improve things as best ya can.
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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #60 on: August 12, 2017, 06:52:36 PM »
We have (or had) an number of knowledgeable members who contributed worthwhile tech on experiences and equipment and I try to augment their comments where possible to help keep the forum active.  Hopefully more lurkers will jump in and do so.  Posters that get no responses eventually stop posting.  Ignore the trolls, just jump in and participate.  Select Ignore for Off topics.  I think you even can ignore a user if you find them worth ignoring.

I wish instead of banning that users would get an ignore alert or something because some users have been banned that I wish weren't as I can take the good with the bad, though others may not.  Some subjects are thin and you ban a couple active users and there's no more activity there.

Or maybe ban from certain categories ?




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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #61 on: August 12, 2017, 07:08:25 PM »
I really miss the Photo of the Month. That topic had great photos, contributors and yes, pictures too. When a quality topic dies (very apparent as top listed ) that brings down the overall board.

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« Reply #62 on: August 12, 2017, 07:22:42 PM »
For some reason magnum, that particular topic comes with some of the biggest egos and pissing matches and apowder keg worth of drama.   It's really too bad because some of those players Were incredibly knowledgeable

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« Reply #63 on: August 12, 2017, 07:31:55 PM »
I only post if I have something to actually contribute to the subject myself

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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #64 on: August 12, 2017, 07:52:56 PM »
Like some others have said there is a ton of information on this site and it is not all about hunting. gun shy would be the words I would use to describe why I don't post more. I check this site out almost every day, read the stories and look at the pictures, but I have quit reading most of the post due to how negative they get

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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #65 on: August 12, 2017, 07:56:47 PM »
I was a lurker for a couple years before signing up for the forum.  I mainly like to read others hunting stories and seeing pictures like the multiple you post.

The thing I don't like about forums and all the social media is it seems like everyone needs to voice there opinions and is judgmental like mentioned above so I may read the thread but never share my opinion on them.  I only use a few forums but they are all pretty similar and you always have the guys that correct you when you are "wrong" or doing it a way they wouldn't.
these are my feelings exactly

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Re: Lurkers.....Esteemed members
« Reply #66 on: August 12, 2017, 08:00:10 PM »
One thing a forum like this has over other social media is you could go to Africa and kill Cecil the lion, post a bunch of pics here - and not worry about death threats, or even any negativity on your success topic for that matter. 

Negativity on success topics is already against the forum rules and we'll crush it each and every time we find it; and if we don't find it please hit the report to moderator button and half a dozen mods will be there in mere minutes.
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« Reply #67 on: August 12, 2017, 08:07:53 PM »
For some reason magnum, that particular topic comes with some of the biggest egos and pissing matches and apowder keg worth of drama.   It's really too bad because some of those players Were incredibly knowledgeable
I imagine if I was a moderator reading every post it could get pretty old!  I really appreciate those that put up with all of the egos to keep this going.
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« Reply #68 on: August 12, 2017, 08:30:54 PM »
I never considered myself an esteemed member. However, there are personalities that seem to live to stir the pot and post worthless garbage...and an unwillingness to just get rid of the chronic problem children that took the fun out of it. I have watched a good number of great and knowledgeable members quit the site or totally change the way they interact because they're stuck dealing with j@ackasses whenever they're online. I'd include Bone in that group, it doesn't seem as fun for him or many of the mods anymore.

As such, this is my first post since April and probably my last for a while. I come on here once in a while to check classifieds now but that's about it.

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« Reply #69 on: August 12, 2017, 08:35:24 PM »
We had some good chats, glad you're still around jonathan_s

Keep an eye out for mentions
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« Reply #70 on: August 12, 2017, 08:38:29 PM »
Yes sir. Thanks for the interest you guys show in keeping or returning the site to what you want It to be. There's been great times on huntwa  :tup:
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« Reply #71 on: August 12, 2017, 08:46:22 PM »
Respect for each other and some humility would bring this site back to where it needs to be.  Stop assuming you are an expert and try to learn something.  Never discuss politics or religion is what I was taught.  Be empathetic to others.  That's all. Oh and grow up.  You are just one of seven billion.  You aren't that important.

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« Reply #72 on: August 12, 2017, 08:47:38 PM »
One thing a forum like this has over other social media is you could go to Africa and kill Cecil the lion, post a bunch of pics here - and not worry about death threats, or even any negativity on your success topic for that matter. 

Negativity on success topics is already against the forum rules and we'll crush it each and every time we find it; and if we don't find it please hit the report to moderator button and half a dozen mods will be there in mere minutes.


1. Maybe this stance should be used for all the topics :dunno:

2. "Report to moderator" I have never used this, I can usually roll with anything and just ignore some of the off replies.  Does this get used much?  I believe it may help to improve things if more folks took advantage of it, maybe a "Report to Mod-Please use it" campaign to get more folks familiar with it and use it. Then if certain members are showing a trend of negativity, name calling, nit picking, etc. use the 3 strikes rule.
1st a warning, 2nd give them a short vacation, 3rd time, send them packing for good. Sounds kind of harsh, but this is what I believe is needed....Got to pull the weeds from the garden if you want the good stuff to grow.

3. Pictures, we all like them, but seems a lot are worried about GPS tags giving away their locations. Is there anything in the help areas that explain how to keep these off your pics? Either way, this help needs to be more easily accessible for folks. Or is there a way the forum could be set up to do it automatically with any pic posted?
  Nit picking of photos should be handled asap.....again 3 strikes rule....... Got to pull some more weeds.

4. Off Topics, Very rarely post there, but is a good place to "learn" about other members  :chuckle:. 3 strikes rule in OT too IMO.  This should remove quite a few more weeds  ;)

5. Maybe add a couple more Mods, or give the current ones Thors hammer.  :violent1:
(PS- Thanks to  all the current ones for doing what you do.  :tup:)

6. Garden will be weed free soon, we reap what we sow.  :twocents: :twocents:






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« Reply #73 on: August 12, 2017, 08:50:18 PM »
I wonder if more in-person get-togethers would alleviate some of the problems mentioned in this thread.

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« Reply #74 on: August 12, 2017, 09:28:10 PM »
I like to hunt and fish. If I'm not hunting and fishing I like talking about it. The left vs right, east vs west is BS and been going on for a while. Focus on what you have in common rather what you don't. I have my opinions on certain things and have expressed them in disagreement with others, it doesn't mean I don't respect their opinion. I can't say I've received the same courtesy back. I check bones picks, hirshey's hunting stories, lokie's fishing stories and pics. Have had help with several auto projects from coach and others on here. Have hauled stuff across the state for a few members, sent a few new hunters and fishers to succesful spots. If I wanted politics or which side of the state grows bigger peckers, I would go to a site that specializes in that garbage.  Mostly just jump in to check classifieds anymore because this site has deviated from what I was looking for when I joined. I will say I have met some great people through here.

 

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