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Re: Glock 20 Thoughts?
« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2017, 09:06:45 AM »
When I was going to post this topic I thought I would get a few positive comments due to the fire arm being a glock and the passion many show for them but I had no idea that almost every single person would endorse the G20. If I was at all nervous about testing one and then buying one that sure has subsided.

Personally I like to shoot my guns a lot so I tend to stick to common calibers. Not that 10mm is uncommon but its defiantly less common than 9mm, 40, 45 ect. I stick with 9mm mostly because its the cheapest full service cartridge to shoot, so I can shoot 2-3 times as much as other people. example would be I love the .357sig BUT the cost and rarity of ammo completely turns me off to the idea of using it.

one thing I'm not sure was asked is this a every day carry gun or just a woods gun?

If you want to carry it every day for concealed I would recommend something smaller and lighter.

Purely looking for a woods gun. Just something to give me piece of mind in the mountains. I'm a bow guy and can talk to you all day about them (especially old bear recurves) but I knew they're were much more knowledgable individuals on the forum when it came to firearms. I went to Sporting Systems and talked with an employee there(incredibly nice, also a bow hunter and very knowledgable) and the G20 was what he recommended but stressed to me that I certainly should shoot it before buying it.

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Re: Glock 20 Thoughts?
« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2017, 09:16:45 AM »
 :) If I were shopping Glock 10mm I would look at this.
             
https://us.glock.com/products/model/g40gen4mos

Longer barrel, better sights.
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Re: Glock 20 Thoughts?
« Reply #27 on: August 18, 2017, 10:43:08 AM »
:) If I were shopping Glock 10mm I would look at this.
             
https://us.glock.com/products/model/g40gen4mos

Longer barrel, better sights.
Carl

I thought about the 40, I'm just worried the size will make it awkward to carry. I certainly don't need it to be compact like the 29 so hence the 20. That said if I get the chase to try the 40 and like it more then I certainly would find a way to work around the size.

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Re: Glock 20 Thoughts?
« Reply #28 on: August 18, 2017, 02:12:02 PM »
I 'think' the width is the same just  longer, the sights would sell me?? good luck to you, sounds like you are doing the right thing to get a gun you like!!
  glock 20 is 8.22 inchs long                    glock 40    9.49        more than an inch longer!
40 is lighter  31 ounce for 20    28 ounce for   40
length between sights     6.77 vs  8.19     the MOS system is cool for the 40.

the rest is about the same
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Re: Glock 20 Thoughts?
« Reply #29 on: August 18, 2017, 02:18:06 PM »
I went throught this exact dilemma last year.  I was leaning toward the 20 but liked the mos system of the 40.  Ended going with the 40 and a trijicon RMR.  Carried in a kenai chest holster it is extremely comfortable.

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Re: Glock 20 Thoughts?
« Reply #30 on: August 18, 2017, 02:55:10 PM »
I have owned both the 20 & 29. I came to the conclusion that to get the most out of the 10mm it's a handload proposition, or buy expensive factory ammo. I loaded a lot hot loads in different aftermarket barrels, and never felt confident in the combination. I ended up buying Buffalo Bore for hunting/protection to solve that issue.

I suggest you go with a 9mm or 45acp. I know they are far behind the 10 in power, but try shooting a 10 in rapid fire like you would in a self defense situation, then try the same with  9 or 45.


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Re: Glock 20 Thoughts?
« Reply #31 on: August 18, 2017, 09:24:39 PM »
I have owned a few Glocks, they all went "bang" when I needed.
I love the 10 mm, it does take a bit to get use to it, practice makes proficiency, reguardless which caliber you shoot.
Sure a single stack 9mm sub-compact would be easier to conceal, but I have had no problems concealing full size 10mm's, .45's an.40s.
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Re: Glock 20 Thoughts?
« Reply #32 on: August 18, 2017, 09:31:18 PM »
I have owned both the 20 & 29. I came to the conclusion that to get the most out of the 10mm it's a handload proposition, or buy expensive factory ammo. I loaded a lot hot loads in different aftermarket barrels, and never felt confident in the combination. I ended up buying Buffalo Bore for hunting/protection to solve that issue.

I suggest you go with a 9mm or 45acp. I know they are far behind the 10 in power, but try shooting a 10 in rapid fire like you would in a self defense situation, then try the same with  9 or 45.
Are you suggesting a carry gun in 9mm would be suitable for last resort bear defense?

What ammo would you use in said scenario?
Fmj?
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Re: Glock 20 Thoughts?
« Reply #33 on: August 18, 2017, 09:50:34 PM »
I have owned both the 20 & 29. I came to the conclusion that to get the most out of the 10mm it's a handload proposition, or buy expensive factory ammo. I loaded a lot hot loads in different aftermarket barrels, and never felt confident in the combination. I ended up buying Buffalo Bore for hunting/protection to solve that issue.

I suggest you go with a 9mm or 45acp. I know they are far behind the 10 in power, but try shooting a 10 in rapid fire like you would in a self defense situation, then try the same with  9 or 45.
Are you suggesting a carry gun in 9mm would be suitable for last resort bear defense?

What ammo would you use in said scenario?
Fmj?

Well, this guy used BUFFALO BORE ammo in his 9mm.

Not that I would ever recommend a 9mm, but then I wouldn't want to face an angry bear with any pistol.

https://www.americanhunter.org/articles/2016/8/10/alaska-outfitter-defends-fishermen-from-raging-grizzly-with-9mm-pistol/

If I did have to face an angry bear with a pistol, the only thing I'd really want is a buddy who was older, fatter and slower than me.
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Re: Glock 20 Thoughts?
« Reply #34 on: August 18, 2017, 10:16:08 PM »
 :chuckle: plus if you have a glock "brick" once you jam you can just smash the bear in the head with it roflol
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Re: Glock 20 Thoughts?
« Reply #35 on: August 18, 2017, 10:45:59 PM »
:chuckle: plus if you have a glock "brick" once you jam you can just smash the bear in the head with it roflol

or hit your "older fatter hunting partner" then run!
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Re: Glock 20 Thoughts?
« Reply #36 on: August 18, 2017, 10:51:28 PM »
I have owned both the 20 & 29. I came to the conclusion that to get the most out of the 10mm it's a handload proposition, or buy expensive factory ammo. I loaded a lot hot loads in different aftermarket barrels, and never felt confident in the combination. I ended up buying Buffalo Bore for hunting/protection to solve that issue.

I suggest you go with a 9mm or 45acp. I know they are far behind the 10 in power, but try shooting a 10 in rapid fire like you would in a self defense situation, then try the same with  9 or 45.
Are you suggesting a carry gun in 9mm would be suitable for last resort bear defense?

What ammo would you use in said scenario?
Fmj?

Well, this guy used BUFFALO BORE ammo in his 9mm.

Not that I would ever recommend a 9mm, but then I wouldn't want to face an angry bear with any pistol.

https://www.americanhunter.org/articles/2016/8/10/alaska-outfitter-defends-fishermen-from-raging-grizzly-with-9mm-pistol/


If I did have to face an angry bear with a pistol, the only thing I'd really want is a buddy who was older, fatter and slower than me.
I apologize I misread I thought he was saying he loaded his 10mm with buffalo bore not a 9mm.
That's a really interesting article thanks for the link!
Now I know if I can't afford the glock 20 I want before hunting season to pick up some buffalo bore hard cast 9mm for my shield and it won't be ideal but it'll be better than nothing!
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Re: Glock 20 Thoughts?
« Reply #37 on: August 18, 2017, 10:54:08 PM »
:chuckle: plus if you have a glock "brick" once you jam you can just smash the bear in the head with it roflol

or hit your "older fatter hunting partner" then run!
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Re: Glock 20 Thoughts?
« Reply #38 on: August 19, 2017, 06:01:16 AM »
I have owned both the 20 & 29. I came to the conclusion that to get the most out of the 10mm it's a handload proposition, or buy expensive factory ammo. I loaded a lot hot loads in different aftermarket barrels, and never felt confident in the combination. I ended up buying Buffalo Bore for hunting/protection to solve that issue.

I suggest you go with a 9mm or 45acp. I know they are far behind the 10 in power, but try shooting a 10 in rapid fire like you would in a self defense situation, then try the same with  9 or 45.
Are you suggesting a carry gun in 9mm would be suitable for last resort bear defense?

What ammo would you use in said scenario?
Fmj?

If a person is really concerned about bear, I think bear spray is the way to go.

If a bear charges, more that likely a person will be in the "spray & pray" mode of shooting. You'll likely get one aimed shot before the bear is in you.

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Re: Glock 20 Thoughts?
« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2017, 05:42:50 PM »
Spray and Pray in bear country means spray your bear spray with your left hand and pray you hit it with your 10mm in your right hand before it hits you.
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Re: Glock 20 Thoughts?
« Reply #40 on: August 22, 2017, 09:52:52 PM »
I bought a Gen4 G20 from carpsniperg2 a couple years ago.  After shooting a couple other Glocks I found out I'm just not a Glock guy.  I think they are a good weapon at an affordable price but you either like them or you don't and they just aren't for me.  Did a trade deal with a guy today for this little beauty, it's a Sig TACOPS 1911 10mm.

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Re: Glock 20 Thoughts?
« Reply #41 on: August 22, 2017, 10:18:02 PM »
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Re: Glock 20 Thoughts?
« Reply #42 on: August 23, 2017, 08:40:58 AM »
I bought a Gen4 G20 from carpsniperg2 a couple years ago.  After shooting a couple other Glocks I found out I'm just not a Glock guy.  I think they are a good weapon at an affordable price but you either like them or you don't and they just aren't for me.  Did a trade deal with a guy today for this little beauty, it's a Sig TACOPS 1911 10mm.

This I find interesting for 2 reasons:

1. I have heard the " your a glock guy or not before" seems like its kind of a love hate compared to other brands mostly I'm guessing because their overall designs of their firearms are very very similar throughout their range.
2. The guys that don't care for glocks often prefer 1911 style handguns. I mean 1911 have been popular forever and theres a reason for that...they're fantastic(I've heard even addictive :chuckle:)

Even more reason for me to test it before buying a glock20. although now I am thinking of just carrying bear spray for now and buying a Browning Buckmark for grouse and plinking. That 22 grouse thread was quite persuasive haha.
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Re: Glock 20 Thoughts?
« Reply #43 on: August 23, 2017, 01:09:53 PM »
If you are trying to keep cost down or you just don't want to spend a grand on a new 10mm, there is certainly nothing wrong with Glocks and as 10mm's go, for the money, the G20 is a very good alternative.  Then there are those that really don't like the idea of the 1911's being SAO and I think that group makes a good argument as well. 

Then there is the Sig 220 10mm which is back up there in price but it does put you back into a DA/SA gun and short of it's price point, gives you the best of both worlds. :tup:

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Re: Glock 20 Thoughts?
« Reply #44 on: August 23, 2017, 01:44:42 PM »
Sig makes some dandy 10mm. I have pondered owning one more then once.
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Re: Glock 20 Thoughts?
« Reply #45 on: August 23, 2017, 01:52:29 PM »
Sig makes some dandy 10mm. I have pondered owning one more then once.

If you're a "Sig guy" then we think everything Sig makes is dandy, but if you're a Glock guy, yeah not so much and they'll  likely disagree very loudly, but, being the kind hearted Sig person I am, I won't let them being WRONG bother me to much.  :chuckle:

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Re: Glock 20 Thoughts?
« Reply #46 on: August 23, 2017, 02:51:15 PM »
If you are trying to keep cost down or you just don't want to spend a grand on a new 10mm, there is certainly nothing wrong with Glocks and as 10mm's go, for the money, the G20 is a very good alternative.  Then there are those that really don't like the idea of the 1911's being SAO and I think that group makes a good argument as well. 

Then there is the Sig 220 10mm which is back up there in price but it does put you back into a DA/SA gun and short of it's price point, gives you the best of both worlds. :tup:

good suggestion it seems like a lot of people LOVE the Sig220 and it pretty much is always number 1 or 2 for 10mm pistols. I just can't afford to spend 2-3times as much as the G20 to be honest but if I could thats what I would go with. I'm going to see if I can get to Safefire range maybe this weekend to try out the G20. Also I would say if you have any other ranges to suggest I'm open hearing about them as a lot of this is new for me.

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Re: Glock 20 Thoughts?
« Reply #47 on: August 23, 2017, 04:49:49 PM »
I'm not sure how much handgun experience you have, but I STONGLY suggest you buy a .22 auto to use on grouse, and shoot the *censored* out of it. You'll get way more use out of the .22, and it'll help you become a better hand gunner. The recoil is almost nonexistent, and now that .22 ammo is more available it won't kill your budget to shoot the heck out of it. Hunting grouse with a .22 handgun is right near the top of my hunting list.

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Re: Glock 20 Thoughts?
« Reply #48 on: August 23, 2017, 05:18:36 PM »
I'm not sure how much handgun experience you have, but I STONGLY suggest you buy a .22 auto to use on grouse, and shoot the *censored* out of it. You'll get way more use out of the .22, and it'll help you become a better hand gunner. The recoil is almost nonexistent, and now that .22 ammo is more available it won't kill your budget to shoot the heck out of it. Hunting grouse with a .22 handgun is right near the top of my hunting list.

I couldn't imagine being without at least one .22 semi auto pistol.  They're soooooo much fun for anyone and everyone to shoot.

And if you want something with more "pop" than a standard 22LR take a look at the PMR-30 it's a 22mag semi auto with a 30rnd magazine.  The only real complaint I have with mine is they are very LOUD!!!

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Re: Glock 20 Thoughts?
« Reply #49 on: August 23, 2017, 06:59:37 PM »
Sig makes some dandy 10mm. I have pondered owning one more then once.

If you're a "Sig guy" then we think everything Sig makes is dandy, but if you're a Glock guy, yeah not so much and they'll  likely disagree very loudly, but, being the kind hearted Sig person I am, I won't let them being WRONG bother me to much.  :chuckle:

:chuckle: I am not to one sided on handgun brands. I own so many brands. Most all work good for me but some just don't seem to stick around long and glock is that one for me.
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