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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #50 on: August 31, 2017, 10:05:05 AM »
The closure posted at 9am


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Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #51 on: August 31, 2017, 10:06:07 AM »
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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #52 on: August 31, 2017, 11:04:17 AM »
Just read that myself and we cancelled our camping plans over there.  It's a real bummer, I can't imagine how many people were loading up for the weekend.

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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #53 on: August 31, 2017, 11:20:24 AM »
Never been so happy not to draw the peaches archery tag. Going to be a lot of guys piling into the north half of the hunt.

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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #54 on: August 31, 2017, 11:34:56 AM »
Stein, your inbox is full.....

Sorry to jack the thread!
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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #55 on: August 31, 2017, 11:50:33 AM »
https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/article/5509/39515/

The Norse Peak Fire (13,637 acres) continued its northward movement yesterday, coming within a half mile of Raven Roost. A 700-acre fire that grew from a 5-acre spot fire on Tuesday afternoon to the northeast will likely merge with the Norse Peak today. Helicopters dropped buckets of water on other spot fires on the north side of Gold Hill ridge.

After painstaking consideration for public safety, fire managers have proposed closing Forest Road 1900 (aka: “Road 19” and “Little Naches”). An official forest order has been requested. Continued hot, dry conditions, significant fire spread potential, and lack of safe extraction routes for Forest visitors is prompting the proposed closure. Forest Service leaders and incident personnel will work to re-open this popular hunting and recreation area as soon as it is safe to do so. Crow Creek Campground is closed. Kaner Flat and Little Naches campgrounds remain open, as is the Little Naches Cabin Tract. There is no dispersed camping allowed in the area.An area closure south and west of Road 19 is also proposed. Law enforcement will be enforcing the closure.

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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #56 on: August 31, 2017, 12:14:26 PM »
From the WSDOT facebook page

SR 410 east of Chinook Pass will reopen on Friday, Sept. 1. It had been closed due to fire danger since Aug. 16. Pilot cars will alternate traffic between Morse Creek (milepost 74.5) and Union Creek (milepost 79) from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. daily as long as conditions allow, but expect at least 30-40 minute delays depending on traffic volume. This opening is for thru-traffic only and access to campsites and trailheads between Chinook Pass and Hells Crossing is still prohibited. The highway will continue to be open overnight to all traffic but please note that full closures could occur with little notice as fire conditions can change rapidly.
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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #57 on: August 31, 2017, 01:00:28 PM »
Here is the text.
Aug 31, 2017 9:00am Norse Peak Fires Update
Incident: Norse Peak Fire Wildfire
Released: 3 hrs. ago
Related Information
Aug 31 Norse Peak Fires Update - printable (pdf 221 kb)

Norse Peak Fires Update
Thursday, August 31, 2017 – 9:00 a.m.
After painstaking consideration for public safety, fire managers have proposed closing Forest Road 1900 (aka: “Road 19” and “Little Naches”). An official forest order has been requested. Continued hot, dry conditions, significant fire spread potential, and lack of safe extraction routes for Forest visitors is prompting the proposed closure. Forest Service leaders and incident personnel will work to re-open this popular hunting and recreation area as soon as it is safe to do so. Crow Creek Campground is closed. Kaner Flat and Little Naches campgrounds remain open, as is the Little Naches Cabin Tract. There is no dispersed camping allowed in the area. An area closure south and west of Road 19 is also proposed. Law enforcement will be enforcing the closure.
A Level 1 evacuation notice is being recommended to the Yakima County Sheriff for the Little Naches area. A Level 1 evacuation means you need to “BE READY” for a potential evacuation. Be aware of the danger that exists in the area; monitor emergency services websites and local media outlets for information. If you are in a campground and are unable to connect to the Internet or media outlets, look at the camp bulletin boards for information about the wildfire.
As of 6 a.m. the Pacific Crest Trail (PCT) is open from White Pass to Chinook Pass. The PCT remains closed from Chinook Pass to Government Meadow. Through-hikers avoiding the closure area should consider planning how to travel north of Government Meadow when they reach White Pass, as there is little cell phone connectivity at Chinook Pass. Hwy 410 is intermittently closed and the eastern access to Government Meadow (Road19) is closed. Other area closures on the Okanogan Wenatchee NF south of Hwy 410 are unchanged for now. Only trained firefighters working on the Norse Peak Fires are allowed in the fire area. For their own safety, hikers must avoid going into fire closure areas.
Beginning Friday, September 1, Hwy 410 will be open from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. using a pilot car to guide drivers through the fire area. Firefighters will continue to work along the west side of the highway during this time. Drivers should be extra cautious. The highway will be fully open during the hours of 7 p.m. to 7 a.m. travel through the fire area on Hwy 410 is open. Check Department of Transportation travel alerts at http://www.wsdot.com/traffic/trafficalerts/.
The Norse Peak Fire (13,637 acres) continued its northward movement yesterday, coming within a half mile of Raven Roost. A 700-acre fire that grew from a 5-acre spot fire on Tuesday afternoon to the northeast will likely merge with the Norse Peak today. Helicopters dropped buckets of water on other spot fires on the north side of Gold Hill ridge. Fire mangers plan to continue treating this area again today. Crews working along the Hwy 410 corridor were able to remove much of the felled dead trees and brush. This work continues throughout today and possibly into the weekend.
On the south side of Hwy 410 the American Fire (325 acres) continues backing downhill, making slow progression north. Crews are also making good progress removing brush and branches to improve a contingency fuel break along the Bumping River Road from Goose Prairie towards the Bumping Lake Dam.
Weather and anticipated fire behavior: A cold front that pushed through the fire last night will keep the cooler and moister weather over the area today. Meanwhile breezy west winds will continue, especially over exposed west-facing ridges. The cool and relatively moist weather will end Friday as a strong ridge builds over the area, resulting in significant warming and drying over the weekend.
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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #58 on: August 31, 2017, 02:45:21 PM »
We have a cabin on the bumping, just up from "halfway flat". How close is this?

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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #59 on: August 31, 2017, 03:08:50 PM »
We have a cabin on the bumping, just up from "halfway flat". How close is this?
If the cabin is on the road towards Bumping Lake, it's under a "Be ready" evac warning.  But everything they've posted so far says they don't expect the fire to move that direction.  They even sent in some smoke jumpers to put out a small fire that was threatening to move your way, and extinguished it quickly.

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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #60 on: August 31, 2017, 03:54:03 PM »
Ours is across from the two ponds

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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #61 on: August 31, 2017, 04:11:51 PM »
Still a long ways from the Indian flat cabins.
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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #62 on: August 31, 2017, 04:46:51 PM »
Thanks for the pictures and info guys, we cancelled our camping trip over there last night. Sounds like a good weekend to just stay home.

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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #63 on: September 01, 2017, 01:11:10 PM »
Update from WSDOT Facebook
"Well, we did say fire conditions can change fast. A day after announcing SR 410 east of Chinook Pass would open for Labor Day weekend, the fire activity shifted significantly and now the highway will be closed 24/7 through at least Monday night, Sept. 4. It's closed eastbound east of the summit near milepost 69 and westbound at Bumping River Road at milepost 88.5. Drivers can detour using SR 123 and US 12/White Pass. There will be no access to trails or campgrounds in the closure area. We expect to have another update on Monday."
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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #64 on: September 01, 2017, 01:13:27 PM »
Yep.  The MODIS data is showing new hot spots on either side of the road that sprung up yesterday/last night.

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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #65 on: September 02, 2017, 03:11:59 PM »
17k acres now.

https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/article/5509/39736/

Much of the fire area saw a blanket of smoke Friday as an inversion set in on the area for most of the day. This helped limit fire growth by keeping winds low and reducing the lift that typically helps drive the fire’s progression.
Fire management personnel are cautioning for the potential of large growth and active fire behavior as warm dry air persists in the area. Temperatures are forecast in the upper 80s with humidity in the upper teens for the next several days. These factors, combined with unstable air in the upper atmosphere, have firefighters and management on high alert through the holiday weekend.
NORSE PEAK FIRE (16,175 acres): The Norse Peak Fire slowed in growth Friday, but remains high in terms of potential moving into the Labor Day weekend. The fire moved north and has taken hold in the Crow Creek area with more growth to the north and east anticipated. The fire continued to back down the hill toward State Route 410 in the Union Creek area and firefighters are monitoring its progress there.
Crews expanded hazard tree reduction operations along the 410 corridor and will continue to remove dead and dying trees that pose a threat to firefighter safety as well as provided more fuel for the fire. These operations are running from Hell’s Crossing east along the roadway and from Union Creek west.
Firefighters also continued their work preparing structures in the area by knocking back surrounding brush and getting sprinkler systems in place for structure defense operations if needed.

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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #66 on: September 04, 2017, 08:54:22 PM »
Level 3 evac for Crystal Mtn tonight.

https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/article/5509/40037/

Both the Norse Peak and American fires saw substantial growth today as the inversion that had held smoke and fire activity down for several days was pushed out early by a shift in the wind.
With east and southeast winds fanning the fire for the first time since lightning struck the area August 11, Norse Peak grew to 18,882 acres and spread over the Pacific Crest Trail between Lake Basin and Crown Point.
This growth has triggered a Level 3 Evacuation Notice for Pierce County residents in the Gold Hill Community, Pick Handle Basin and the Crystal Mountain Ski Resort.
Level 3 is a “Go” situation as current conditions could pose immediate threats to life and safety. Residents might not be allowed to return until conditions are safe.
The American Fire also saw significant activity and grew to 500 acres but remains south of State Route 410 and west of American Ridge at this time.

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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #67 on: September 04, 2017, 09:12:17 PM »
check out view from the crystal mtn webcam:

http://www.king5.com/weather/crystal-mountain-cam

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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #68 on: September 04, 2017, 09:23:54 PM »
check out view from the crystal mtn webcam:

http://www.king5.com/weather/crystal-mountain-cam

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Wow, yeah I can see why they gave the order. That's not far off.

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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #69 on: September 04, 2017, 09:34:05 PM »
you have to deal with refreshing every few minutes, but heres a link (large view) of the camera

http://crystalmountainresort.com/devtest/mt-rainier-gondola-web-cam/
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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #70 on: September 04, 2017, 10:29:15 PM »
Crystal is on her own now.....
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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #71 on: September 04, 2017, 10:47:53 PM »
I hope that the fire does not make it to Corral Pass.

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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #72 on: September 05, 2017, 05:42:38 AM »
This fire is getting discouraging in a hurry.  Praying for rain and for structures to be protected.


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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #73 on: September 05, 2017, 06:20:52 AM »
I just looked at the MODIS...

HOLY CRAP! These fires are getting out of control. The Norse Peak fire is moving actively in all 4 directions.
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Re: Chinook pass closed FYI
« Reply #74 on: September 05, 2017, 06:35:39 AM »
This let it burn mentality is mind blowing. :dunno: I understand forest management but when theses fires are small they need to throw everything at them to stop them. Now they are going to burn for months, in essence burning up whole GMU's and maybe small little towns. All the animals are moving to different areas where the browse cant support a mass in flux of game animals. These fires are going to have a profound affect for years to come.

And I sure hope they don't reach the small communities in their path. Pray for some rain cause that's the only thing that's going to stop them now.

 

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