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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2017, 10:17:20 AM »
Yeah, it would have been impossible to predict this. :rolleyes:

What do you do when you catch them?  I certainly don't like to eat genetic mutant garbage fed fish.  Maybe crab bait would be the best option.

Where are the "conservation" groups that sue over every hatchery?  It won't be long until some of these genes make their way into wild runs - or outcompete them.

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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2017, 10:26:07 AM »
What blows me away is that you cant even import a butterfly into this state if it isn't native here. 
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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2017, 10:27:09 AM »
Did anyone catch the fact that you need a fishing license to catch these Atlantic Salmon - but the WDFW really wants us to help.
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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2017, 10:29:45 AM »
Did anyone catch the fact that you need a fishing license to catch these Atlantic Salmon - but the WDFW really wants us to help.
It's not like hunting where you can target something and know exactly what you'll reel in. You may want to catch an atlantic salmon but end up catching a chinook.

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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2017, 10:32:37 AM »
Did anyone catch the fact that you need a fishing license to catch these Atlantic Salmon - but the WDFW really wants us to help.
It's not like hunting where you can target something and know exactly what you'll reel in. You may want to catch an atlantic salmon but end up catching a chinook.

Understand, just the fact that they want us to help but we need to pay for it.  I'll leave it at that to avoid a thread jack. :tup:
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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2017, 10:54:15 AM »
Yeah, it would have been impossible to predict this. :rolleyes:

What do you do when you catch them?  I certainly don't like to eat genetic mutant garbage fed fish.  Maybe crab bait would be the best option.

Where are the "conservation" groups that sue over every hatchery?  It won't be long until some of these genes make their way into wild runs - or outcompete them.
The diseases are the bigger issue.  Entire runs of pacific salmon have been destroyed in BC, Canada due to the net pens.  The Canadian government has court orders silencing and preventing scientists from saying/doing anything negative in regards to the farm fish.

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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2017, 10:59:53 AM »
Yeah, it would have been impossible to predict this. :rolleyes:

What do you do when you catch them?  I certainly don't like to eat genetic mutant garbage fed fish.  Maybe crab bait would be the best option.

Where are the "conservation" groups that sue over every hatchery?  It won't be long until some of these genes make their way into wild runs - or outcompete them.
The diseases are the bigger issue.  Entire runs of pacific salmon have been destroyed in BC, Canada due to the net pens.  The Canadian government has court orders silencing and preventing scientists from saying/doing anything negative in regards to the farm fish.

This. Also, these fish are all sterile I believe, effectively Triploids. They won't spawn, but they will run up the rivers and compete with our local species for food. I caught a couple last time this happened. Talk about an aggressive, hard fighting fish.
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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2017, 11:11:38 AM »
Anybody fish the escaped fish in 1997 off Bainbridge have tips for how to target them? It would be good to get them out of the Sound as soon as possible.
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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2017, 11:16:56 AM »
Did anyone catch the fact that you need a fishing license to catch these Atlantic Salmon - but the WDFW really wants us to help.
It's not like hunting where you can target something and know exactly what you'll reel in. You may want to catch an atlantic salmon but end up catching a chinook.

Understand, just the fact that they want us to help but we need to pay for it.  I'll leave it at that to avoid a thread jack. :tup:

Seems fairly typical with the other problems that hunters pay to help WDFW with, spring bear, second doe tags, etc.

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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2017, 12:15:18 PM »
Did anyone catch the fact that you need a fishing license to catch these Atlantic Salmon - but the WDFW really wants us to help.
It's not like hunting where you can target something and know exactly what you'll reel in. You may want to catch an atlantic salmon but end up catching a chinook.

And that's when you let the Chinook go because you don't have the correct permits.  Not to hard to figure out what to do.  BT, are you saying people would do something illegal if confronted with that situation?  ;)
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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2017, 12:55:18 PM »
Did anyone catch the fact that you need a fishing license to catch these Atlantic Salmon - but the WDFW really wants us to help.
It's not like hunting where you can target something and know exactly what you'll reel in. You may want to catch an atlantic salmon but end up catching a chinook.

And that's when you let the Chinook go because you don't have the correct permits.  Not to hard to figure out what to do.  BT, are you saying people would do something illegal if confronted with that situation?  ;)

Is it at all legal to fish for salmon in the sound without a license?
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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2017, 12:58:58 PM »
Did anyone catch the fact that you need a fishing license to catch these Atlantic Salmon - but the WDFW really wants us to help.
It's not like hunting where you can target something and know exactly what you'll reel in. You may want to catch an atlantic salmon but end up catching a chinook.

And that's when you let the Chinook go because you don't have the correct permits.  Not to hard to figure out what to do.  BT, are you saying people would do something illegal if confronted with that situation?  ;)

Is it at all legal to fish for salmon in the sound without a license?

You need a hunting license to hunt Eurasian Collared Doves.  Seems this is the same thing. 

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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2017, 01:04:44 PM »
Hunting you can make the argument about hunter safety/ed, but giving an invasive species license with a major discount.

I'd guess they want licenses for fishing so the bios can do their extrapolation and mortality estimates on Chinook/coho that are 'bycatch'.

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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2017, 01:57:59 PM »
Take some kids, no license required provided you aren't targeting something that requires a catch card.

Catch a few, put them in a flate rate box and send them to whoever approved that thing.

 

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