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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2017, 07:41:06 PM »
They have a milder flavor compared to Coho, Chinook, Sockeye. And they are a paler pink. When you see them in stores read the package ingredients, they add color to the meat to make it more appealing looking. They smoke up just fine though. Use small spoons or noise makers like a Blue Fox.

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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2017, 07:44:31 PM »
Something's fishy... No pun intended :chuckle: anyone else find it weird that with all the closures this year to salmon fishing, and all of the anglers in an uproar, that all of a sudden this happens? Sounds to me like the wdfw had something to do with this to provide opportunity and shut everybody up...  :dunno:
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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2017, 07:49:34 PM »
Some are way over reacting, There good eating, there sterile and there a blast to catch. I wish to hell I lived closer, I would be after them every chance I had. If you like triploids, you will like these to.

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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2017, 07:49:45 PM »
Thinking about heading to the san juans, any pro tips from guys that have hammered them before would be greatly appreciated. Water depth, do they like structure? bait, lures, troll speed, etc.

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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2017, 08:24:32 PM »
Go to Costco and you can see what they look like.  They dye some of them pinkish depending on what they feed them.


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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #30 on: August 22, 2017, 08:59:28 PM »
Something's fishy... No pun intended :chuckle: anyone else find it weird that with all the closures this year to salmon fishing, and all of the anglers in an uproar, that all of a sudden this happens? Sounds to me like the wdfw had something to do with this to provide opportunity and shut everybody up...  :dunno:
:yeah:  is the first thought that came to my mind :chuckle:
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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #31 on: August 22, 2017, 09:10:05 PM »
Something's fishy... No pun intended :chuckle: anyone else find it weird that with all the closures this year to salmon fishing, and all of the anglers in an uproar, that all of a sudden this happens? Sounds to me like the wdfw had something to do with this to provide opportunity and shut everybody up...  :dunno:
:yeah:  is the first thought that came to my mind :chuckle:

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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #32 on: August 22, 2017, 10:02:26 PM »
if you look up the parent company who owns those net pens, you will notice ikura is one of the products from those fish.

do your own research though.

will a sterile fish still produce roe?
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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #33 on: August 22, 2017, 10:18:44 PM »
Can someone tell me why it is still OK to farm raise Atlantic salmon in net pens all the while it is against the law to farm raise deer and elk?
               
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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #34 on: August 23, 2017, 05:21:04 AM »
I really like the comment where the tribal guy says "as bad a shape as are fishery is in, any impact  can be devastating"  Any impact this has is nothing like the impact of stringing nets across a river. Give me a break. There just mad because of the impact it has on the value of the fish they sell.....

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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #35 on: August 23, 2017, 06:23:21 AM »
This may be a problem that has been reoccurring we just never knew about it.  Strait off the WDFW website. "Total annual escape from B.C. pens according to the most recent reports, to include chronic "leakage" of smaller fish (which is not reported), could exceed 50,000 fish, annually." 

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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #36 on: August 23, 2017, 07:43:47 AM »
Buddies did good on them yesterday.  Had one friend with 6, another with 18 and saw pictures of a boat that had 34 in it.  Looks like a blast.  We might give it ago before 300 boats are targeting them in a small area.
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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #37 on: August 23, 2017, 08:18:37 AM »
Wow, those look like little tunas! Pretty fat and round.
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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #38 on: August 23, 2017, 08:23:58 AM »
Looks like a blast. Those fish fight like heck too. Any that survive for a while and adjust to natural food sources will become beasts. Kill them all  :tup:
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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #39 on: August 23, 2017, 08:55:00 AM »
Damn, that's a boatload!  :chuckle:
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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #40 on: August 23, 2017, 10:49:07 AM »
h2o - did your buddies mention how they fished for them?  Trolling?  Throwing spinners? 

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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #41 on: August 23, 2017, 10:50:45 AM »
You could probably buy a bag of food off the fish farm and do alright.

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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #42 on: August 23, 2017, 11:06:56 AM »
You could probably buy a bag of food off the fish farm and do alright.

No kidding, kinda like feeding the trout at Cabelas! 

Wonder if you could put cat food on a hook under a bobber?

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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #43 on: August 23, 2017, 11:29:21 AM »
I would bet they could be caught on a white lightning Coho killer behind a Hot Spot.  But I don't eat farm raised fish so I won't be finding out.


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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #44 on: August 23, 2017, 11:33:13 AM »
It's going to be great when those sea lice start going around in the wild populations.  :tup:
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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #45 on: August 23, 2017, 11:38:08 AM »
I would bet they could be caught on a white lightning Coho killer behind a Hot Spot.  But I don't eat farm raised fish so I won't be finding out.
But they'll be 'wild caught'.

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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #46 on: August 23, 2017, 11:39:44 AM »
Where are the sea lions when you need them?

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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #47 on: August 23, 2017, 11:54:06 AM »
Can someone tell me why it is still OK to farm raise Atlantic salmon in net pens all the while it is against the law to farm raise deer and elk?
               
........ Only thing that comes to mind is the Federal government has to negotiate salmon regs. and the the state decides wildlife.

It is the same thing as having cows in a pasture, these are essentially domesticated animals and have little relationship to pen raising a wild animal.

if you look up the parent company who owns those net pens, you will notice ikura is one of the products from those fish.

do your own research though.

will a sterile fish still produce roe?


Not sure where the idea came from that these were triploid. Depending on production facility they may or may not raise them sterile.

Not a big deal if they are sterile or not though. They will not (or are very, very unlikely to) cross with Pacific salmon and as far as I know have never created a sustained wild run on the west coast.

Atlantics have been escaping for 30+ years in very large numbers (if it is only 50k a year I would find that highly unlikely and 50k is not even worth mentioning because of the insanely small number that represents in the scheme of fish production) and have randomly been picked up in fisheries or seen in streams.  If it was going to be an issue it should already have happened.

Just an over embellished story blowing a non issue out of proportion to further environmental dogma and sell papers. The only issue is the benefit of having more fish to catch :tup:

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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #48 on: August 23, 2017, 11:58:33 AM »
It's going to be great when those sea lice start going around in the wild populations.  :tup:

Sea lice levels rise and fall, Alaska wild caught is rampant with them on certain years and those fish are out of the influence of the BC farms. Sea lice can be an issue but farms are more likely to create localized epidemics from lice that were originally brought in by wild fish in the area.

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Re: 300000+ Atlantic salmon released after pen break
« Reply #49 on: August 23, 2017, 12:00:16 PM »
It's what killed the wild Atlantic runs.
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