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Salmon Farming Discussion
« on: August 27, 2017, 06:02:25 AM »
Its sad that an accident has now given fisherman one of the best opportunities to fill the freezer with salmon in the state.
anyone recall the old days of Sept silvers?




(These comments were split off the original "Atlantics" topic to create a discussion topic for those who want to discuss the politics of salmon farming!)
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Re: Salmon Farming Discussion
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2017, 08:20:22 AM »
Its sad that an accident has now given fisherman one of the best opportunities to fill the freezer with salmon in the state.
anyone recall the old days of Sept silvers?
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Re: Salmon Farming Discussion
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2017, 10:50:42 AM »
Its sad that an accident has now given fisherman one of the best opportunities to fill the freezer with salmon in the state.
anyone recall the old days of Sept silvers?

Sad and pathetic!  But the way things are heading it just may very well be the inevitable future of rec. fishing. It's a real shame!, this State had so much potential for recreational fishing, but the fish politics in this state has really messed things up for most of us.
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Re: Salmon Farming Discussion
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2017, 12:53:40 PM »
Atlantic salmon are given drugs that make them resistant to sea lice. 

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Re: Salmon Farming Discussion
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2017, 02:58:58 PM »
Gross!!
Kill them all and hopefully the crab will eat them atleast
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Re: Salmon Farming Discussion
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2017, 03:17:25 PM »
Atlantic salmon are given drugs that make them resistant to sea lice.

Which ones?  The ones I'm familiar with have no effects on mammals.

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Re: Salmon Farming Discussion
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2017, 03:20:40 PM »
Gross!!
Kill them all and hopefully the crab will eat them atleast
:yeah:
These fish are fed growth hormones, as well as numerous growth "enhancers" and antibiotics.  They grow extremely fast.  They will more than likely be present in the water for time to come.  :puke:

Unfortunately, the reality is that even your "wild" salmon are chock full of all kinds of things including antibiotics, prosac, etc. 

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Re: Salmon Farming Discussion
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2017, 03:25:16 PM »
Hopefully you guys can catch them all and do whatever you want with them.
Then hopefully this farmed fish crap can come to an end!
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Re: Salmon Farming Discussion
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2017, 03:49:34 PM »
Hopefully you guys can catch them all and do whatever you want with them.
Then hopefully this farmed fish crap can come to an end!

Not wanting to take this off topic but part of feeding the world is farming, we eat farmed chicken, beef, and pork too, not to mention most other food most people get. People in other areas like fish too, either we must allow commercials to fish or we must farm fish. probably doing some of both is the best answer. Just sayin...  :dunno:
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Re: Salmon Farming Discussion
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2017, 03:55:11 PM »
Hopefully you guys can catch them all and do whatever you want with them.
Then hopefully this farmed fish crap can come to an end!

Not wanting to take this off topic but part of feeding the world is farming, we eat farmed chicken, beef, and pork too, not to mention most other food most people get. People in other areas like fish too, either we must allow commercials to fish or we must farm fish. probably doing some of both is the best answer. Just sayin...  :dunno:

 :tup:  Well put.  We can probably do a better job of regulating (making sure infrastructure is suitably maintained at the very least) the farms, though that will probably make prices go up.

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Re: Salmon Farming Discussion
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2017, 04:05:32 PM »
Hopefully you guys can catch them all and do whatever you want with them.
Then hopefully this farmed fish crap can come to an end!

Not wanting to take this off topic but part of feeding the world is farming, we eat farmed chicken, beef, and pork too, not to mention most other food most people get. People in other areas like fish too, either we must allow commercials to fish or we must farm fish. probably doing some of both is the best answer. Just sayin...  :dunno:
I don't support deer and elk farming either. They are one in the same.  Franken fish are no different than the Franken deer and elk being produced. I would have the same anger if any invasive spilled into the ecosystem.

They are only invasive if they out compete the native fish and with forty years of Atlantics escaping in varying numbers and an attempt at establishing them way back when with nothing to show for it, invasion is unlikely.  I am not, however, arguing that all of these fish swimming around is a good thing, other than for my freezer.....   :rolleyes:   :chuckle:

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Re: Salmon Farming Discussion
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2017, 04:18:23 PM »
Hopefully you guys can catch them all and do whatever you want with them.
Then hopefully this farmed fish crap can come to an end!

Not wanting to take this off topic but part of feeding the world is farming, we eat farmed chicken, beef, and pork too, not to mention most other food most people get. People in other areas like fish too, either we must allow commercials to fish or we must farm fish. probably doing some of both is the best answer. Just sayin...  :dunno:
I don't support deer and elk farming either. They are one in the same.  Franken fish are no different than the Franken deer and elk being produced. I would have the same anger if any invasive spilled into the ecosystem.

They are only invasive if they out compete the native fish and with forty years of Atlantics escaping in varying numbers and an attempt at establishing them way back when with nothing to show for it, invasion is unlikely.  I am not, however, arguing that all of these fish swimming around is a good thing, other than for my freezer.....   :rolleyes:   :chuckle:
You sure sound supportive.  And if you want to eat them as well as support the industry it's your choice.  I personally am against them for way more reasons than your inflammatory accusations(that you deleted).
:yeah: :tup:
Hopefully you guys can catch them all and do whatever you want with them.
Then hopefully this farmed fish crap can come to an end!

Not wanting to take this off topic but part of feeding the world is farming, we eat farmed chicken, beef, and pork too, not to mention most other food most people get. People in other areas like fish too, either we must allow commercials to fish or we must farm fish. probably doing some of both is the best answer. Just sayin...  :dunno:
I don't support deer and elk farming either. They are one in the same.  Franken fish are no different than the Franken deer and elk being produced. I would have the same anger if any invasive spilled into the ecosystem.

They are only invasive if they out compete the native fish and with forty years of Atlantics escaping in varying numbers and an attempt at establishing them way back when with nothing to show for it, invasion is unlikely.  I am not, however, arguing that all of these fish swimming around is a good thing, other than for my freezer.....   :rolleyes:   :chuckle:
You sure sound supportive.  And if you want to eat them as well as support the industry it's your choice.  I personally am against them for way more reasons than your inflammatory accusations(that you deleted).
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Re: Salmon Farming Discussion
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2017, 04:38:10 PM »
Hopefully you guys can catch them all and do whatever you want with them.
Then hopefully this farmed fish crap can come to an end!

Not wanting to take this off topic but part of feeding the world is farming, we eat farmed chicken, beef, and pork too, not to mention most other food most people get. People in other areas like fish too, either we must allow commercials to fish or we must farm fish. probably doing some of both is the best answer. Just sayin...  :dunno:
I don't support deer and elk farming either. They are one in the same.  Franken fish are no different than the Franken deer and elk being produced. I would have the same anger if any invasive spilled into the ecosystem.

They are only invasive if they out compete the native fish and with forty years of Atlantics escaping in varying numbers and an attempt at establishing them way back when with nothing to show for it, invasion is unlikely.  I am not, however, arguing that all of these fish swimming around is a good thing, other than for my freezer.....   :rolleyes:   :chuckle:
You sure sound supportive.  And if you want to eat them as well as support the industry it's your choice.  I personally am against them for way more reasons than your inflammatory accusations(that you deleted).
My assumptions about much of the hysteria against these stands, I think Native organizations have much to gain by eliminating their commercial competition.

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Re: Salmon Farming Discussion
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2017, 04:54:12 PM »
Uh pretty sure the natives want nothing to do with those swimming rats!
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Re: Salmon Farming Discussion
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2017, 04:58:47 PM »
yet.  Mostly because they drive down the price of the fish caught in gill nets.

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Re: Salmon Farming Discussion
« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2017, 05:03:21 PM »
Uh pretty sure the natives want nothing to do with those swimming rats!
No commercial fishermen do. But responsible and sustainable fish farming is the future, taking pressure off our wild salmon stocks.
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« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2017, 05:08:28 PM »
yet.  Mostly because they drive down the price of the fish caught in gill nets.
Exactly! But let's get this back to the catching of not the should they be here conversation.

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« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2017, 05:10:14 PM »
There are a lot of rumors floating around about these salmon farms,and none of the claims have been proven.
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Re: Salmon Farming Discussion
« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2017, 06:24:44 PM »
yet.  Mostly because they drive down the price of the fish caught in gill nets.
The natives do way more for raising and sustaining our silver and king stocks than WDFW does
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Re: Salmon Farming Discussion
« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2017, 06:47:34 PM »
yet.  Mostly because they drive down the price of the fish caught in gill nets.
The natives do way more for raising and sustaining our silver and king stocks than WDFW does
A lot more.  Steelhead too.

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« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2017, 12:43:24 PM »
Uh pretty sure the natives want nothing to do with those swimming rats!
No commercial fishermen do. But responsible and sustainable fish farming is the future, taking pressure off our wild salmon stocks.

Farming killed the wild Atlantic salmon industry in Europe. Everyone says they're responsible until something like this happens. This collapse of the pen will have unforeseen consequences that won't be good for native fish. The only responsible farms I know are concrete, filter the water that returns to the source, and burns the filtered sludge. No direct exposure to any water source and no possibility of escape.
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Re: Salmon Farming Discussion
« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2017, 06:05:08 PM »
:tup: they look like they would eat good to me

If you like your fish fed with food pellets that have food coloring....eat away. May be fun to catch.

Or got to Costco.  Same stuff.
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Re: Salmon Farming Discussion
« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2017, 05:17:00 AM »
These comments were split off the original "Atlantics" topic to create a discussion topic for those who want to discuss the politics of salmon farming!

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Re: Salmon Farming Discussion
« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2017, 05:47:02 AM »
 :yeah:

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