collapse

Author Topic: Helicopter flying in clients for high hunt gpw  (Read 6703 times)

Offline teanawayslayer

  • Virtual Campfire
  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Sourdough
  • *
  • Join Date: Mar 2010
  • Posts: 2161
  • Location: Eastside
Helicopter flying in clients for high hunt gpw
« on: September 16, 2017, 11:17:37 PM »
Thursday was an interesting day at trinity. Helicopters flying clients in for the high hunt all day. Anyone know who was flying them in? Very interesting. I heard the last flight around 2 pm. We're these clients waiting 24 hours befor hunting? Did they land in the wilderness? I had no service to call the local authorities to check it out. Didn't seem right to me. Did anyone else see this?
Happiness is being in the woods!!!

Offline Knocker of rocks

  • Off-Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Old Salt
  • *
  • Join Date: Aug 2011
  • Posts: 6558
  • Location: the Holocene, man
Re: Helicopter flying in clients for high hunt gpw
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2017, 03:24:58 AM »
Interesting.  Twenty years ago Hi Line flew a bunch of Boy Scouts into patented land up the Stehekin near Booker Mountain inside NCNP.  Everything was legal because of the private ownership of the land and the close relationship between the park and Hi Line was not affected.

Don't know if that is the case here, I'm trying to think of parcels where a helicopter could land which would make a good location.  Seem like there could be something over by Red Mountain between the Chiwawa and Phelps Creek and another site near Glacier Peak Mines. 

Have you spoken with the USFS?
« Last Edit: September 17, 2017, 04:06:48 AM by Knocker of rocks »

Offline Boss .300 winmag

  • Best Biggie Blogger
  • Washington For Wildlife
  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Old Salt
  • *
  • Join Date: Oct 2010
  • Posts: 9754
  • Location: Skagit Valley
  • DAN-O CAN'T TAKE BIGGIE PICS
Re: Helicopter flying in clients for high hunt gpw
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2017, 05:19:45 AM »
Just remember guys helps don't have to land to off load cargo, and people.  :twocents:
"Just because I like granola, and I have stretched my arms around a few trees, doesn't mean I'm a tree hugger!
Hi I'm 8156, our leader is Bearpaw.
YOU CANNOT REASON WITH A TIGER WHEN YOUR HEAD IS IN ITS MOUTH! Winston Churchill

Keep Calm And Duc On!

Offline Knocker of rocks

  • Off-Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Old Salt
  • *
  • Join Date: Aug 2011
  • Posts: 6558
  • Location: the Holocene, man
Re: Helicopter flying in clients for high hunt gpw
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2017, 05:32:05 AM »
Just remember guys helps don't have to land to off load cargo, and people.  :twocents:

Those actions are still prohibited in Wilderness areas

http://www.wilderness.net/nwps/documents/fs/fs_wilderness_regulations.pdf

http://tfmlearning.fly.faa.gov/Publications/atpubs/AIM/Chap7/aim0704.html (See 7-4-6)
« Last Edit: September 17, 2017, 05:44:44 AM by Knocker of rocks »

Offline Naches Sportsman

  • Off-Topics
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Sourdough
  • *
  • Join Date: Aug 2010
  • Posts: 1693
  • Location: Idaho
Re: Helicopter flying in clients for high hunt gpw
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2017, 06:40:56 AM »
Isn't there private land locked away up there? As in old mining claims? I remember seeing private land on the map last year.
No longer a WA resident.


Leave No Trace!

Offline JM

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Scout
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jan 2013
  • Posts: 385
Re: Helicopter flying in clients for high hunt gpw
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2017, 06:55:29 AM »
How do you know they're flying hunters in and not doing something else?

Offline haugenna

  • Off-Topics
  • Trade Count: (+4)
  • Sourdough
  • *
  • Join Date: Sep 2008
  • Posts: 2127
Re: Helicopter flying in clients for high hunt gpw
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2017, 06:58:39 AM »
Didn't see the helicopter but I did have a f18 come through the area a few times. It was pretty cool. He was buzzing the tree tops and twisting and turning. It was like my own little air show.



Edit: not my own personal air show. There were 25 others in the same drainage watching it as well.  Busy high hunt for sure. Can't wait for mid week openers to come back. Saw way too many cat tracks.

Offline teanawayslayer

  • Virtual Campfire
  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Sourdough
  • *
  • Join Date: Mar 2010
  • Posts: 2161
  • Location: Eastside
Re: Helicopter flying in clients for high hunt gpw
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2017, 01:13:22 PM »
Interesting.  Twenty years ago Hi Line flew a bunch of Boy Scouts into patented land up the Stehekin near Booker Mountain inside NCNP.  Everything was legal because of the private ownership of the land and the close relationship between the park and Hi Line was not affected.

Don't know if that is the case here, I'm trying to think of parcels where a helicopter could land which would make a good location.  Seem like there could be something over by Red Mountain between the Chiwawa and Phelps Creek and another site near Glacier Peak Mines. 

Have you spoken with the USFS?
maybe that's what was going on. I will call usfs on Monday
Happiness is being in the woods!!!

Offline seth30

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Jul 2009
  • Posts: 6393
  • Location: Whidbey Island
  • It's time to HUNT!
Re: Helicopter flying in clients for high hunt gpw
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2017, 01:46:41 PM »
kinda of takes the fun out of a high country hunt... 
Rather be dead than cool.
Kurt Cobain

Offline Knocker of rocks

  • Off-Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Old Salt
  • *
  • Join Date: Aug 2011
  • Posts: 6558
  • Location: the Holocene, man
Re: Helicopter flying in clients for high hunt gpw
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2017, 06:37:18 PM »
Interesting.  Twenty years ago Hi Line flew a bunch of Boy Scouts into patented land up the Stehekin near Booker Mountain inside NCNP.  Everything was legal because of the private ownership of the land and the close relationship between the park and Hi Line was not affected.

Don't know if that is the case here, I'm trying to think of parcels where a helicopter could land which would make a good location.  Seem like there could be something over by Red Mountain between the Chiwawa and Phelps Creek and another site near Glacier Peak Mines. 

Have you spoken with the USFS?
maybe that's what was going on. I will call usfs on Monday

I don't even think they can land on USFS land outside the Wilderness without an use permit, that's probably why they were flying out of Trinity.

Offline Knocker of rocks

  • Off-Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Old Salt
  • *
  • Join Date: Aug 2011
  • Posts: 6558
  • Location: the Holocene, man
Re: Helicopter flying in clients for high hunt gpw
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2017, 06:38:01 PM »
Isn't there private land locked away up there? As in old mining claims? I remember seeing private land on the map last year.

Tons

Offline h2ofowlr

  • CHOKED UP TIGHT
  • Washington For Wildlife
  • Trade Count: (+4)
  • Old Salt
  • *
  • Join Date: Dec 2008
  • Posts: 8097
  • Location: In the "Blind"! Go Cougs!
Re: Helicopter flying in clients for high hunt gpw
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2017, 07:11:35 PM »
Any lakes in the area?  Maybe they were pulling water for a fire.
Cut em!
It's not the shells!  It's the shooter!

Offline teanawayslayer

  • Virtual Campfire
  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Sourdough
  • *
  • Join Date: Mar 2010
  • Posts: 2161
  • Location: Eastside
Re: Helicopter flying in clients for high hunt gpw
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2017, 07:19:35 PM »
Any lakes in the area?  Maybe they were pulling water for a fire.
no buckets
Happiness is being in the woods!!!

Offline grade-creek-rd

  • Virtual Campfire
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Scout
  • *
  • Join Date: Apr 2007
  • Posts: 348
  • Location: somewhere between here and there
Re: Helicopter flying in clients for high hunt gpw
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2017, 08:43:24 AM »
There is no 24 hour rule in Washington...that's in Alaska...I know guys who used to use Cascade Helicopters out of Cashmere to fly into various places but I think there is no longer a Cascade Helicopter outfit. Anyway, I view it as no different than hiring a packer to take you in via horseback...

And our High Hunt spot was crazy with people this I as I am assuming it was from the fires taking away several other places to enter the normal haunts of the other hunters. We still saw some nice bucks and a bear...a great weekend, but dry, hot, and popular.

Grade
There's more to life than hunting...there's fishing too!

Offline Timberstalker

  • Busch Lite Rocks
  • Off-Topics
  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Old Salt
  • *
  • Join Date: Apr 2008
  • Posts: 6465
  • Location: Tri-Cities
Re: Helicopter flying in clients for high hunt gpw
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2017, 08:48:52 AM »
There is no 24 hour rule in Washington...that's in Alaska...I know guys who used to use Cascade Helicopters out of Cashmere to fly into various places but I think there is no longer a Cascade Helicopter outfit. Anyway, I view it as no different than hiring a packer to take you in via horseback...

And our High Hunt spot was crazy with people this I as I am assuming it was from the fires taking away several other places to enter the normal haunts of the other hunters. We still saw some nice bucks and a bear...a great weekend, but dry, hot, and popular.

Grade

It is absolutely illegal to hunt the same day you've flown, in Washington - pursuant to the WAC below.

4.   Using aircraft (WAC 220-413-070):
It is illegal to:
Use an aircraft to spot, locate, or report
the location of wildlife for the purpose
of hunting.
Hunt big game on the same day you
were airborne for any purpose, except
for a regularly scheduled commercial
flight.

If you aint hunting, you aint livin'

 

* Recent Topics

Slide Ridge Late Mule deer tag by bowhunterforever
[Today at 02:12:21 AM]


White river archery elk tag 653 by PlateauNDN
[Today at 01:44:24 AM]


Remington 700 ultimate muzzy by tritt007
[Today at 12:41:49 AM]


Chelan butte disabled ewe tag by Romulus1297
[Today at 12:23:09 AM]


Huckleberry any bull moose early tag by bowhunterforever
[Today at 12:19:29 AM]


Sheep Tag holders by bowhunterforever
[Yesterday at 11:59:34 PM]


Nooksack quality elk archery help. by johnnyaustin44
[Yesterday at 11:38:00 PM]


6 yo Chocolate Lab to hunting home by JWEBB
[Yesterday at 11:31:14 PM]


WTS: Vortex Viper PST Gen II 5-25x50 by Antlershed
[Yesterday at 11:31:05 PM]


WTB kids quad 80/90 by Rainier10
[Yesterday at 11:22:16 PM]


Goose Prairie archery tag. Got drawn. by JWEBB
[Yesterday at 11:19:21 PM]


Rimrock by Toad
[Yesterday at 11:04:22 PM]


2nd Deer Tag - Washtucna by iRem
[Yesterday at 10:58:49 PM]


Diesel fuel additives by JWEBB
[Yesterday at 10:58:08 PM]


Wtb stand up jet ski by JWEBB
[Yesterday at 10:53:46 PM]


Quality AK style rifle for 2018? by Calvin Rayborn
[Yesterday at 10:46:31 PM]


Cow tag by snit
[Yesterday at 10:46:00 PM]


Sig P320 conversion kit by Calvin Rayborn
[Yesterday at 10:44:24 PM]


338 375 ruger build by Calvin Rayborn
[Yesterday at 10:39:46 PM]


Got a Sig P365 for $423 out the door by Calvin Rayborn
[Yesterday at 10:38:42 PM]