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Re: is this an illegal treestand?
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2017, 09:57:50 PM »
Ya better run n tell cuz that paint job is terrible

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Re: is this an illegal treestand?
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2017, 10:00:27 PM »
Maybe it bolts together and not into the tree. Then what's the difference between it and a regular stand?

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Re: is this an illegal treestand?
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2017, 10:06:24 PM »
Garbage and vandalism like this is what got the Weyco gates locked.Might as well shoot some more holes in the road signs while your there.

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Re: is this an illegal treestand?
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2017, 10:14:21 PM »
Garbage and vandalism like this is what got the Weyco gates locked.Might as well shoot some more holes in the road signs while your there.
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Re: is this an illegal treestand?
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2017, 11:41:24 PM »
Garbage and vandalism like this is what got the Weyco gates locked.Might as well shoot some more holes in the road signs while your there.
Absolutely boils my blood when you see the no shooting from the road signs popped full of holes. Seems to me like that quickest way to bring an end to legal recreational shooting.

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Re: is this an illegal treestand?
« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2017, 04:55:20 AM »
If it is permanent (i.e. bolted, nail to the tree) then it's illegal on National Forest and state land and should be reported. I've never heard of special permission to conduct resource damage. A specialist doing a study would no doubt set up a blind on the ground if needed. Most I've ever seen for disabled hunters is a platform on the side of the road for a wheel chair.

I'd be more worried about a future timber sale off that road with, as stated, bunch of old rotten stands bolted to the trees. Imagine years from now when all the visual signs of the blind are gone and the tree ends up at a mill with nails and bolts in it.
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Re: is this an illegal treestand?
« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2017, 06:13:13 AM »
Just keep walking and mind your own business. Do you report all speeders to the law? Who knows why it's there or whose it is. Could easily be a handicapped grandfather that's taking his grandson on his last year of hunting before dying of old age and got some odd permission to build it and put it up for the season. If it's not affecting you or your family, move on and worry/report something that actually matters.
And you're right, only southerns hunt out of box blinds for whitetails.
:yeah:  agree, just move on.  It takes time and money plus commitment to build and maintain a stand. Maybe the guy built it for his disabled dad or something like that?  It's no big deal to ignore it and move on.
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Re: is this an illegal treestand?
« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2017, 06:49:31 AM »
I say report it. There may be some extenuating circumstances you don't know about but reporting it does no harm. There's a right way and a wrong way to go about pretty much everything and deciding on your own you have more of a claim to something that belongs to all is not a good public land practice. This is the kind of thing that leads guys to have conflict over "their" spot. There's rules about this stuff for a reason, I don't really see a big difference between this and any other resource damage.

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Re: is this an illegal treestand?
« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2017, 06:58:33 AM »
Exactly.  I view this very much the same as a "dummy camp".  If I find a tree stand in an area I hunt I move on so I don't disturb the area.  If it stays up all fall or year-round I get a little peeved.

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Re: is this an illegal treestand?
« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2017, 07:16:51 AM »
Nice camo design. Blends in nicely with the natural surroundings. It took me a while to spot the tree stand in the picture. I wonder if he patented the pattern. Sitka might want to acguire the rights for next year's lineup.

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Re: is this an illegal treestand?
« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2017, 07:25:11 AM »
I appreciate the respectful discussion in this thread.  Apparently I'm on the fence because I'll read one post and think one thing then read another and be swayed to think that way.   Well done Huntwa
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Re: is this an illegal treestand?
« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2017, 07:33:12 AM »
Regarding the legality on NFS lands, have you guys witnessed what kind of modifications rock climbers have made? Trails of expansion bolts have been drilled, even in wilderness areas, and the NFS (in practice, not necessarily in policy) doesn't raise an eyebrow.

Ummmmmmmmmm a trail of bolts up a rock face is hardly analogous to a stand like this. 
 

Really? Then please explain the difference(s). I personally see them as similar, but I'm willing to be convinced.

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Re: is this an illegal treestand?
« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2017, 07:35:02 AM »
Regarding the legality on NFS lands, have you guys witnessed what kind of modifications rock climbers have made? Trails of expansion bolts have been drilled, even in wilderness areas, and the NFS (in practice, not necessarily in policy) doesn't raise an eyebrow.
Besides, the "what about those other guys who do things wrong??" argument has no bearing on whether or not this kind of tree stand is OK.

You're correct. I would like to see NFS policing both installations as I don't wish to see tree forts in the woods nor bolt trails up walls.

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Re: is this an illegal treestand?
« Reply #28 on: September 20, 2017, 07:41:34 AM »
I cannot believe that this has not been brought up before on here.

There are lots of structures like that in the Nile.  Old wood tree stands, platforms, I come across them every year. On the ground ,in a tree ,everywhere.

And what is the difference between that and some two seat toilet on some groups favorite camping spot.

If that  stand is illegal so are all the rest.

I don't think it should be allowed on public land. Climber or ground blinds for the week ya hunt no problem, they go away.

Having said that, I got better things to do with my hunting time than worry about some hunters construction project.
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Re: is this an illegal treestand?
« Reply #29 on: September 20, 2017, 07:44:41 AM »
I think where he messed up is painting a pine tree on the front of that stand and not a fir

 

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