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Offline ian_padron

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Re: High Hunt - Why Popular?
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2017, 09:03:43 PM »
Great bucks, but I'd go back and erase mention of the area in your previous post. You'd be surprised who will end up back in there next year with that info floating around...

Just sayin'

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Re: High Hunt - Why Popular?
« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2017, 12:12:38 AM »
Nice buck congrats
Looks like beautiful country to be hunting in
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Re: High Hunt - Why Popular?
« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2017, 05:50:05 AM »
Great bucks, but I'd go back and erase mention of the area in your previous post. You'd be surprised who will end up back in there next year with that info floating around...

Just sayin'

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Problem is saying it is an area and it really being that area are 2 different things

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Re: High Hunt - Why Popular?
« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2017, 10:08:19 AM »
I agree with Skyvalhunter on this one...when someone say's it's somewhere that it is not but it could be, then both of the places will get hammered...after all, some of us can tell exactly where the photos were taken, others will take the word of the author and go to the other spot...either way, nice bucks, wish I had the time to go into that basin this year but I will be up there next year, thanks for the "scouting report"...and yes, I already planned on going in there next year, talked about it last week after our opening weekend High Hunt that was ruined by two hunters who, on consecutive days, decided it was "easier" to shoot 600 yards than to stalk the buck that we were stalking...

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Re: High Hunt - Why Popular?
« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2017, 10:39:08 AM »
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High Hunt that was ruined by two hunters who, on consecutive days, decided it was "easier" to shoot 600 yards than to stalk the buck that we were stalking...

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Same thing happened to us....only these idiots decided to hike 2 hours up the ridge and target shoot in the same basin we were hunting.  Must have rattled off 10+ shots in the morning over an hour timeframe while deer activity was still going on.  Public land I guess but have some respect.

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Re: High Hunt - Why Popular?
« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2017, 10:44:20 AM »
Something tells me these stories are going to become more and more common with all the long range stuff that is going on.  While I respect the time and effort it takes to become proficient at such long ranges, it takes some of the "hunting" out of it for me, maybe I'm just old school though.  I'm not one to try and divide hunters but it just doesn't sit right with me when I hear these stories or see it first hand.

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Re: High Hunt - Why Popular?
« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2017, 10:59:28 AM »
I agree with Skyvalhunter on this one...when someone say's it's somewhere that it is not but it could be, then both of the places will get hammered...after all, some of us can tell exactly where the photos were taken, others will take the word of the author and go to the other spot...either way, nice bucks, wish I had the time to go into that basin this year but I will be up there next year, thanks for the "scouting report"...and yes, I already planned on going in there next year, talked about it last week after our opening weekend High Hunt that was ruined by two hunters who, on consecutive days, decided it was "easier" to shoot 600 yards than to stalk the buck that we were stalking...

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sounds like you need to extend your range and you wont have that problem. depending on conditions there nothing easy about a 600 yard shot. hopefully those boys knew what they were doing and not just lobbing lead out there with there fancy new scopes that "do it all for you".

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Re: High Hunt - Why Popular?
« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2017, 11:03:12 AM »
Long range hunting is fair play to me.  Learning to get close and learning to shoot far are two different strategies towards the same goal; to each their own.

Target practice in an open rifle unit when there are obviously active hunters is just plain awful and ought to be illegal, IMO.

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Re: High Hunt - Why Popular?
« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2017, 11:42:59 AM »
Long range hunting is fair play to me.  Learning to get close and learning to shoot far are two different strategies towards the same goal; to each their own.

Target practice in an open rifle unit when there are obviously active hunters is just plain awful and ought to be illegal, IMO.

there's open hunts and active hunters from august to January for most big game and in some areas an open hunt year round for one thing or another. its called public land and its part of the deal. don't want to be interrupted get further back...

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Re: High Hunt - Why Popular?
« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2017, 12:13:13 PM »
Sure, but when they park right next to your vehicle and start target shooting while you're deeper in the woods, you gotta question their sensibility.
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Re: High Hunt - Why Popular?
« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2017, 12:34:01 PM »
Can I drop the hammer on a deer sized animal out to and beyond 1,000 yards?  Yes, given the right environmental conditions, no problem.

Would I?...No, not necessarily.  I prefer to get as close as reasonably possible to take one perfect, clean, ethical shot that will immediately dispatch the animal and allow for the easiest possible retrieval of meat, horns and hide.  I'm primarily a meat hunter and I want to conserve as much of that delicious 100% organic meat for table fare as possible.  And, I feel like I owe it to the animal that it depart this mortal plane as quickly and humanely as possible.

Should others?...Judging from what I've seen at the various shooting ranges I frequent and the Introductory Long Range Shooting Class I instruct, only a handful out of maybe 10,000 shooters or so have the skillset and tools to reliably and consistently make long range shots. The rest should be well under the 400 yard mark, with the bulk at under 200 yards or less.

Now...What I believe is completely unethical is the use of handheld radios to direct a hunter onto game.  There is not a single sportsmen's organization I know of that considers it "fair chase". It's pure laziness, it's cheating, and it should be illegal.  I'm contemplating sponsoring legislation to make it so.

I witnessed an older guy sitting in the bottom of a valley call his son in on the top of three bucks during the High Buck opener this year.  The arrogant punk - who has an idiotic habit of wearing running shoes in the backcountry and messing up others' hunts, appeared to have missed the largest buck that had a taller somewhat oddly asymmetrical rack at less than 50 yards and ended up panic shooting a very small three-point as the herd spooked and ran uphill through a clearing towards him.  He took exactly ZERO time in ascertaining whether or not he had fatally shot the larger buck that ran into some very thick and steep brush.  For all I know the kid shot both and they tagged both or even worse...simply let the other one rot in the brush. (I observed him deboning the dink as his father walked back to camp.)  I suspect that is exactly what happened since I never saw them or that larger asymmetrical buck the remaining 8 days I was in there.   Watching the whole thing unfold through my spotter was infuriating. 



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Re: High Hunt - Why Popular?
« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2017, 01:06:14 PM »
Long range hunting is fair play to me.  Learning to get close and learning to shoot far are two different strategies towards the same goal; to each their own.

Target practice in an open rifle unit when there are obviously active hunters is just plain awful and ought to be illegal, IMO.

there's open hunts and active hunters from august to January for most big game and in some areas an open hunt year round for one thing or another. its called public land and its part of the deal. don't want to be interrupted get further back...

Fair point.  We as hunters don't have any higher claim to use the land for what we want to do than the rec shooters do. 

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Re: High Hunt - Why Popular?
« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2017, 01:11:31 PM »
I witnessed an older guy sitting in the bottom of a valley call his son in on the top of three bucks during the High Buck opener this year.  The arrogant punk - who has an idiotic habit of wearing running shoes in the backcountry and messing up others' hunts, appeared to have missed the largest buck that had a taller somewhat oddly asymmetrical rack at less than 50 yards and ended up panic shooting a very small three-point as the herd spooked and ran uphill through a clearing towards him.  He took exactly ZERO time in ascertaining whether or not he had fatally shot the larger buck that ran into some very thick and steep brush.  For all I know the kid shot both and they tagged both or even worse...simply let the other one rot in the brush. (I observed him deboning the dink as his father walked back to camp.)  I suspect that is exactly what happened since I never saw them or that larger asymmetrical buck the remaining 8 days I was in there.   Watching the whole thing unfold through my spotter was infuriating.

Yeah, taking a shot at a second animal without determining if you've killed the first is pretty awful.  Were you able to watch the first buck for awhile?  If you saw him drop, I would report those guys to the rangers in a heartbeat. 

Now, that said, running shoes in the back country seems like an odd thing to be upset about  :chuckle:

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Re: High Hunt - Why Popular?
« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2017, 01:15:16 PM »
 Congrats muleracks, what an epic picture!!  :tup:
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Re: High Hunt - Why Popular?
« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2017, 01:35:31 PM »
"Now, that said, running shoes in the back country seems like an odd thing to be upset about  :chuckle:"

Running shoes and trekking poles make me sick. :)

 

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