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Blacktail scrapes?
« on: October 02, 2017, 09:41:09 PM »
I got permission recently to hunt on some private land up north of Sultan. As I've been poking around, I've seen what sure *look* like scrapes - even though the Boyd Iverson book on blacktail hunting says that blacktail don't make scrapes.



There's a ton of these all over the property. Is this a legitimate blacktail scrape, or is it something else?
« Last Edit: October 03, 2017, 12:18:07 PM by smithkl42 »

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Re: Blacktail scrapes?
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2017, 10:06:42 PM »
Doesn't look like a scrape to me but with all due respect to Boyd, I have seen scrapes under licking branches just like a Whitetail. They are not as big or pronounced as a Whitetail but a Blacktail will scrape

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Re: Blacktail scrapes?
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2017, 05:27:27 AM »
Picture never came thru 4 me

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Re: Blacktail scrapes?
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2017, 05:48:37 AM »
Got no pic ??? :dunno: :dunno:

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Re: Blacktail scrapes?
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2017, 12:18:42 PM »
Sorry, picture was in a private album. I've updated the link - let me know if you can't see it.

What it is is a bare patch of dirt, with deer tracks all over it, in an area where everything else is covered with foliage and vegetation.

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Re: Blacktail scrapes?
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2017, 12:43:58 PM »
Looks like a deer or elk bed
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Re: Blacktail scrapes?
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2017, 12:48:52 PM »
It's a scrape .I have seen several and have witnessed bucks pawing them and urinating in them. :tup:
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Re: Blacktail scrapes?
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2017, 02:30:51 PM »
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Re: Blacktail scrapes?
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2017, 10:08:43 PM »
I've never seen a blacktail scrape. I believe I'd see at least one in the last 30+ years. Sometimes I'll find a spot where they kind of hang out a bit before, and after going into a pasture, or clearing. There's tracks and bare ground. Usually under a fir tree.  I can't see your pic.

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Re: Blacktail scrapes?
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2017, 11:39:39 AM »
Just seeing if I post the pic it can be seen.
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Re: Blacktail scrapes?
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2017, 12:06:42 PM »
Based on size alone, I'd call that a bed. If you look closely, you can see the elongated impressions in it, that is from their legs being curled up under them when the ground was soft.
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Re: Blacktail scrapes?
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2017, 03:31:21 PM »
I saw this a couple of years ago and assumed it was an old blacktail scrape. I've had cameras in this area for 3 years and haven't ever seen any elk. Lots of bear though.

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Re: Blacktail scrapes?
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2017, 04:50:46 PM »
Based on size alone, I'd call that a bed. If you look closely, you can see the elongated impressions in it, that is from their legs being curled up under them when the ground was soft.

So sorry for the newbie ignorance here - what's the difference, then, between a bed and a scrape? (A "rub" is where they rub their antlers on a tree to get rid of the velvet, no?)

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Re: Blacktail scrapes?
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2017, 01:07:16 AM »
I saw this a couple of years ago and assumed it was an old blacktail scrape. I've had cameras in this area for 3 years and haven't ever seen any elk. Lots of bear though.
That's a rub. Blacktails definitely make rubs. Scrapes are where deer dig at the ground. Its up for debate whether or not blacktails make scrapes.

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Re: Blacktail scrapes?
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2017, 05:25:18 AM »
That's a rub. Blacktails definitely make rubs. Scrapes are where deer dig at the ground. Its up for debate whether or not blacktails make scrapes.
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Geez... I've been using the wrong term forever. Thanks for letting me know.

 

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