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Re: Shot my first bear with a bow
« Reply #25 on: October 02, 2017, 09:01:06 AM »
More to the point: Thanks for posting this and making me laugh. 

It's the nature of internet forums to side-line and second guess and discuss the finer points of whatever.  Don't let it stop you from posting!   :tup:

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Re: Shot my first bear with a bow
« Reply #26 on: October 02, 2017, 10:05:55 AM »
Ya this bear was hoped up on old coffee grounds and bannana peels it could do anything. :chuckle: :chuckle:

Bearlives matter  :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

I'm gonna take a knee during national anthem for bear lives now :chuckle: :chuckle:

I would do same if I had too,kiddo bow was just what he had on hand and did the job.MacGyver that bear.
This is my last comment on this topic,Great story,and comments from everybody,don't let one persons oppion stop you from posting on this forum :tup:
Two birds in the Bush is always better than one in the hand-that way you can always go to the Bush and hunt another day .conservation=Better hunting.
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Re: Shot my first bear with a bow
« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2017, 10:23:04 AM »
So when does a bear in your backyard become a threat,I think this would be my question for Leo.Cause are you really harassing a bear once it becomes a threat :dunno: or does it fall into the self defence part of the law.These are all questions that we would like to know,and everbody has a different answer or opinion,that must be respected,But these would be good questions for LEO.

When? When you hit it with an arrow from a 15 lb bow????  :chuckle:

I was thinking maybe hungry bear on a compost pile,I don't think I'm getting between a bear and a food source.Would it be different if he used a sling shot,bb gun,bear spray,what do you do if you don't have bear spray,let the bear charge you,your dog,your kid,before it become a threat.Like I said everybody got different opinions.but the only one that matters is a Leo.

I think that the opinions expressed are out of concern for the OP. Once you post it, the LE and courts take over and will use a post as evidence. They've fined people for not clamping down the barbs on a hook enough. I have little doubt some of them would look at this and go investigate.
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Re: Shot my first bear with a bow
« Reply #28 on: October 02, 2017, 11:01:14 AM »
Remember when the LEO's come for you do not offer to give them the bow. If they want the bow as evidence make them seize it without your permission. Don't interfere with them taking the bow but make it clear you are not willing giving them the bow.

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Re: Shot my first bear with a bow
« Reply #29 on: October 02, 2017, 05:47:23 PM »
Remember when the LEO's come for you do not offer to give them the bow. If they want the bow as evidence make them seize it without your permission. Don't interfere with them taking the bow but make it clear you are not willing giving them the bow.

Why is that?

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Re: Shot my first bear with a bow
« Reply #30 on: October 02, 2017, 06:20:18 PM »
Curious if this would get me 10 preference points??????



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Re: Shot my first bear with a bow
« Reply #31 on: October 02, 2017, 06:45:36 PM »
Curious if this would get me 10 preference points??????



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Hunters helping hunters :tup: :tup:


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Re: Shot my first bear with a bow
« Reply #32 on: October 02, 2017, 07:35:32 PM »
So when does a bear in your backyard become a threat,I think this would be my question for Leo.Cause are you really harassing a bear once it becomes a threat :dunno: or does it fall into the self defence part of the law.These are all questions that we would like to know,and everbody has a different answer or opinion,that must be respected,But these would be good questions for LEO.

When? When you hit it with an arrow from a 15 lb bow????  :chuckle:

I was thinking maybe hungry bear on a compost pile,I don't think I'm getting between a bear and a food source.Would it be different if he used a sling shot,bb gun,bear spray,what do you do if you don't have bear spray,let the bear charge you,your dog,your kid,before it become a threat.Like I said everybody got different opinions.but the only one that matters is a Leo.

I think that the opinions expressed are out of concern for the OP. Once you post it, the LE and courts take over and will use a post as evidence. They've fined people for not clamping down the barbs on a hook enough. I have little doubt some of them would look at this and go investigate.
:yeah:

Because in addition to the points already made about how this could be twisted, sadly someone, somewhere would jump at the opportunity to try and turn this into 10 points (I know Timberstalker was joking...I think  :chuckle:).

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Re: Shot my first bear with a bow
« Reply #33 on: October 02, 2017, 11:01:07 PM »
Remember when the LEO's come for you do not offer to give them the bow. If they want the bow as evidence make them seize it without your permission. Don't interfere with them taking the bow but make it clear you are not willing giving them the bow.

Why is that?

If you say they can have it when they ask, they can use it against you.  This goes for anything that may be used as evidence.  But if they take it without your permission, there's a possibility that a judge will throw out the evidence as an unreasonable search/seizure.  This is decent advice anytime you are dealing with law enforcement. 

BUT I gotta say, it seems pretty overdramatic to be talking about this in the current context.  I really don't think you have anything to worry about. 

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Re: Shot my first bear with a bow
« Reply #34 on: October 02, 2017, 11:19:29 PM »
Remember when the LEO's come for you do not offer to give them the bow. If they want the bow as evidence make them seize it without your permission. Don't interfere with them taking the bow but make it clear you are not willing giving them the bow.

Why is that?

If you say they can have it when they ask, they can use it against you.  This goes for anything that may be used as evidence.  But if they take it without your permission, there's a possibility that a judge will throw out the evidence as an unreasonable search/seizure.  This is decent advice anytime you are dealing with law enforcement. 

Best advice. Tell them you ain't gonna say anything without legal representation. End of story. They gonna take whatever they want. In the end if no crime was committed. You will get your belongings back. Wouldn't even answer the simplest of questions without a lawyer next you.

For this instance. Your right kinda jumping the gun. Nothing gonna happen. The OP did what he thought was right. To each their own. Theirs people that would of done less. Then theirs people that would of filled their freezer with that bear. Everyone handles things differently.

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Re: Shot my first bear with a bow
« Reply #35 on: October 03, 2017, 07:58:02 AM »
Remember when the LEO's come for you do not offer to give them the bow. If they want the bow as evidence make them seize it without your permission. Don't interfere with them taking the bow but make it clear you are not willing giving them the bow.

Why is that?

If you say they can have it when they ask, they can use it against you.  This goes for anything that may be used as evidence.  But if they take it without your permission, there's a possibility that a judge will throw out the evidence as an unreasonable search/seizure.  This is decent advice anytime you are dealing with law enforcement. 

Best advice. Tell them you ain't gonna say anything without legal representation. End of story. They gonna take whatever they want. In the end if no crime was committed. You will get your belongings back. Wouldn't even answer the simplest of questions without a lawyer next you.

For this instance. Your right kinda jumping the gun. Nothing gonna happen. The OP did what he thought was right. To each their own. Theirs people that would of done less. Then theirs people that would of filled their freezer with that bear. Everyone handles things differently.

I was kidding about the LEOs showing up to investigate this "heinous crime". However stranger things have been done by overly-aggressive LEOs. My advice about the giving of evidence or having it seized is still correct. LEOs are trained in how to ask your permission to take evidence and unless you are forewarned you won't even catch what he is doing. If they think it is necessary enough to train for this then they know it is an important procedure that can affect the outcome of a case. In this case imagine how ridiculous the LEO would appear as the attorneys argue over the proper taking a child's toy bow in front of a judge. Some judges will only tolerate just so much nonsense before they throw a case out of court.

 

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