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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #50 on: October 05, 2017, 03:01:39 PM »
So, you don't believe that governments can become a threat to their people when the people are disarmed? The 2nd Amendment is not and was never about hunting. It's sole purpose was to ensure that individuals would be able to protect themselves from those wanting to do them harm, including and especially an oppressive government.
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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #51 on: October 05, 2017, 03:07:38 PM »
I see this going to off topics real quick...

So I will help :tung:


You do realize if the government does become a threat to us, they will have the largest, most technologically advanced military in the world protecting them right?  Your semi auto AR 15 isn't going to do much. 

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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #52 on: October 05, 2017, 03:12:57 PM »
posse comitatus
I should be out hunting lions, thanks WDFW

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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #53 on: October 05, 2017, 03:15:32 PM »
 :yeah:
I see this going to off topics real quick...

So I will help :tung:


You do realize if the government does become a threat to us, they will have the largest, most technologically advanced military in the world protecting them right?  Your semi auto AR 15 isn't going to do much.
:yeah:

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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #54 on: October 05, 2017, 03:15:42 PM »
I see this going to off topics real quick...

So I will help :tung:


You do realize if the government does become a threat to us, they will have the largest, most technologically advanced military in the world protecting them right?  Your semi auto AR 15 isn't going to do much.

I'm, first of all, unsure that the entire military would level their guns at the population. Secondly, an AR-15 would be far more effective than a .30-06. Your argument is "there's no way to win so just give up now"? Throw away the guns and go peacefully about your business? There are an estimated 3.5 million AR-style rifles in the US and than number may be conservative. I don't think the owners of those rifles, many of them veterans, would just lie down and give up.
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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #55 on: October 05, 2017, 03:21:19 PM »
Who needs a 60 round mag and a bump fire stock?Not anyone planning on eating an animal that has 10,20,30 holes in it.If we are under attack by a foreign nation they will be handing out machine guns.If a person believes there will be a time when it will be ok to shoot hundreds of fellow citizens they are paranoid schizophrenics and should have thier guns taken away now.

Do you NEED everything you have at your disposal? Home,cars,guns,knives,job,tools,money, the list goes on.

That machine gun isn't any good if its not delivered before the paratroopers drop in.


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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #56 on: October 05, 2017, 03:23:41 PM »
I see this going to off topics real quick...

So I will help :tung:


You do realize if the government does become a threat to us, they will have the largest, most technologically advanced military in the world protecting them right?  Your semi auto AR 15 isn't going to do much.

I'm, first of all, unsure that the entire military would level their guns at the population. Secondly, an AR-15 would be far more effective than a .30-06. Your argument is "there's no way to win so just give up now"? Throw away the guns and go peacefully about your business? There are an estimated 3.5 million AR-style rifles in the US and than number may be conservative. I don't think the owners of those rifles, many of them veterans, would just lie down and give up.

History would say yes, they would back their employer, orders are orders.  Its a fantasy regardless. It wont happen in a million years.

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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #57 on: October 05, 2017, 03:23:55 PM »
I see this going to off topics real quick...

So I will help :tung:


You do realize if the government does become a threat to us, they will have the largest, most technologically advanced military in the world protecting them right?  Your semi auto AR 15 isn't going to do much.

I'm, first of all, unsure that the entire military would level their guns at the population. Secondly, an AR-15 would be far more effective than a .30-06. Your argument is "there's no way to win so just give up now"? Throw away the guns and go peacefully about your business? There are an estimated 3.5 million AR-style rifles in the US and than number may be conservative. I don't think the owners of those rifles, many of them veterans, would just lie down and give up.
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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #58 on: October 05, 2017, 03:32:15 PM »
I don't see this going to off-topics. It's clearly a 2A issue. If everyone stays respectful, there should be no problem. If they don't, they'll go bye bye. I think we're good.
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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #59 on: October 05, 2017, 03:40:48 PM »
I see this going to off topics real quick...

So I will help :tung:


You do realize if the government does become a threat to us, they will have the largest, most technologically advanced military in the world protecting them right?  Your semi auto AR 15 isn't going to do much.

I'm, first of all, unsure that the entire military would level their guns at the population. Secondly, an AR-15 would be far more effective than a .30-06. Your argument is "there's no way to win so just give up now"? Throw away the guns and go peacefully about your business? There are an estimated 3.5 million AR-style rifles in the US and than number may be conservative. I don't think the owners of those rifles, many of them veterans, would just lie down and give up.
exactly!!!!
Effective for what?The zombie apocalypse?

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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #60 on: October 05, 2017, 03:53:23 PM »
Luckily, the Constitution has set up law enforcement to be the most powerful on the local level - the Sheriff is the most powerful LE in his jurisdiction. He has to allow any other state or federal units to work there or they don't. And our armed forces are not allowed to be used against us except in very specifically outlined circumstances. Having seen the responses of several sheriffs regarding gun control and the subject of relinquishing authority to the feds, I feel better that the localized nature of our law enforcement setup will be an effective tool to keep any federal offensive desires at bay. It would be extremely difficult for the feds to launch against its citizens, even without considering the scale on a geographic level.
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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #61 on: October 05, 2017, 04:26:22 PM »
I was thinking more of this product,alot cheaper,more effective,i think I could make one out of a few bolts and a fidget spinner.I was thinking of getting it,putting it on my blackout for some deer hunting at only forty dollars,why not.
Anyway here's some links to what I'm talking about and if you Google it there's about ten articals saying it might of been used in Vegas shooting.


http://twozprecision.com/product/gatcrank-15/


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« Reply #62 on: October 05, 2017, 05:12:40 PM »
Not smart on her part. The bump stock is a crap product and not needed , but this is where the "don't give an inch" comes from.

https://hotair.com/archives/2017/10/05/pelosi-sure-hope-ban-bump-stocks-slippery-slope-gun-control/

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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #63 on: October 05, 2017, 05:34:06 PM »
I was thinking more of this product,alot cheaper,more effective,i think I could make one out of a few bolts and a fidget spinner.I was thinking of getting it,putting it on my blackout for some deer hunting at only forty dollars,why not.
Anyway here's some links to what I'm talking about and if you Google it there's about ten articals saying it might of been used in Vegas shooting.


http://twozprecision.com/product/gatcrank-15/

thats kinda funny...yeah i hope when SHTF that i'm rolling around with a fidget spinner and an office chair so i can hit a target 30 feet in front of me...you can see by using this gadget that you have no support of the gun.  I'll take my "bump" stock and forend handle against this any day.  how many years have these stocks been around and now that someone has caused this tragedy we need to ban it ?  where were all you people years ago when this thing was available for legal use ?  you would have had to know with the amount of rounds it can throw out that there was a possibility of someone using it at sometime for ultimate destruction...Here's an idea---fully automatic weapons are legal to have in certain circumstances so let's ban all of them now because at some point someone will use them to mass murder innocent people...lets all get behind this movement now before it happens...stop being idiots and banning tools rather than focusing on the people using them...will we ever stop people from mass murdering people ?---NO...think about what has happened recently-trucks driving over people in France, how about McVey blowing up a Fed building ?  should we ban fertilizer ?  how are you gonna ban poop ?  we need to concentrate on the individuals rather on the tools they use...we need to be more proactive rather than reactive after the heinous act has been committed.  we will never be able to stop all of them but that is the trade off  for having the constitiutional rights that we have had for 250 years...
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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #64 on: October 05, 2017, 05:39:48 PM »
Let me ask you brew how much did ya pay for a bump fire stock.
Two birds in the Bush is always better than one in the hand-that way you can always go to the Bush and hunt another day .conservation=Better hunting.
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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #65 on: October 05, 2017, 05:43:34 PM »
a lot less then i was comfortable paying for it....what does it matter ?
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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #66 on: October 05, 2017, 05:49:27 PM »
Let me ask you brew how much did ya pay for a bump fire stock.
how much did you pay for the vehicle you drive ?  you know the top speed limit in the state is 70 mph so why would you pay extra for a vehicle that can go over the legal speed limit ?  oh i have the answer...because you never know when you're gonna need a little more than the law will allow..
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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #67 on: October 05, 2017, 05:50:48 PM »
I see this going to off topics real quick...

So I will help :tung:


You do realize if the government does become a threat to us, they will have the largest, most technologically advanced military in the world protecting them right?  Your semi auto AR 15 isn't going to do much.
All their jets, tanks, satellites and drones can't seem to beat a group of bronze age goat herders, though.

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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #68 on: October 05, 2017, 05:59:08 PM »
a lot less then i was comfortable paying for it....what does it matter ?
It was always too much for me,gat crank is the poor man bump stock and may be legal after the ban of bump stock,you may always considering selling for a lot more than you paid the price on gun broker is going up.

http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=bump+fire
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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #69 on: October 05, 2017, 06:16:32 PM »
I see this going to off topics real quick...

So I will help :tung:


You do realize if the government does become a threat to us, they will have the largest, most technologically advanced military in the world protecting them right?  Your semi auto AR 15 isn't going to do much.
All their jets, tanks, satellites and drones can't seem to beat a group of bronze age goat herders, though.

Their has already been a study on the military turning on the US populace if a civil war happens for just reasons, they won’t.

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That red letter word everybody thinks means against the civilian population, ain’t so the men in the military know what it means.  ;)

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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #70 on: October 05, 2017, 07:23:42 PM »
I was thinking more of this product,alot cheaper,more effective,i think I could make one out of a few bolts and a fidget spinner.I was thinking of getting it,putting it on my blackout for some deer hunting at only forty dollars,why not.
Anyway here's some links to what I'm talking about and if you Google it there's about ten articals saying it might of been used in Vegas shooting.


http://twozprecision.com/product/gatcrank-15/


Even cheaper:


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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #71 on: October 05, 2017, 07:28:33 PM »
So if a guy walked into a crowded restaurant with a single shot .22, do we then ban all single shots?   

We didnt ban airplanes after 9/11, we havent banned knives, so on and so forth. 

I kill elk and eat elk, when I'm not, I'm thinking about killing elk and eating elk.

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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #72 on: October 05, 2017, 07:48:16 PM »
So if a guy walked into a crowded restaurant with a single shot .22, do we then ban all single shots?   

We didnt ban airplanes after 9/11, we havent banned knives, so on and so forth.

Yeah but we sure did change the security screenings.  Don't recall a plane flying into a building lately.

That's two different animals to control.  The only solution to stopping gun violence is to go back in time and never invent them.  That's not possible.

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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #73 on: October 05, 2017, 08:26:49 PM »
The only accesory that makes a gun deadly is the lunatic using it.

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Re: Bump Stocks
« Reply #74 on: October 05, 2017, 08:30:19 PM »
We should outlaw those.

 

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