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Muzzleloader sight in trouble
« on: October 04, 2017, 09:20:46 PM »
A friend of mine bought a new Traditions vortek muzzleloader and we are sighting it in today and it's still shooting 8 inches high at 100 yards and the rear side is maxed out I can't adjust it any lower it'll fall off has anybody else had this problem and how can I fix it

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Re: Muzzleloader sight in trouble
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2017, 09:53:07 PM »
6 o'clock hold?   :)

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Re: Muzzleloader sight in trouble
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2017, 09:59:48 PM »
Dumb question, but are you sure you went the right way?  I would try the other way as I have been very sure of things like that and had been wrong.

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Re: Muzzleloader sight in trouble
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2017, 10:02:52 PM »
I did try going the other way and it just shot higher I thought the same thing though and we talked about maybe that whole six shooting thing but it seems like you should be able to adjust that without having to hold under

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Re: Muzzleloader sight in trouble
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2017, 10:09:51 PM »
How heavy of a bullet and how much powder?

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Re: Muzzleloader sight in trouble
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2017, 10:20:11 PM »
Another dumb question. What kind of rest are you using? Is the barrel resting on the rest or is the fore-end? Resting on the barrel can cause the bullet to inadvertently fly high.


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Re: Muzzleloader sight in trouble
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2017, 10:27:55 PM »
You need to get ahold of traditions and have them send you a shorter front sight. I had to do that to my T/C Black Diamond !!
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Re: Muzzleloader sight in trouble
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2017, 07:57:24 AM »
you can try to change the load

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Re: Muzzleloader sight in trouble
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2017, 08:11:43 AM »
6 o'clock hold and maybe sight in gun two weeks before season instead of one. :yike:

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Muzzleloader sight in trouble
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2017, 08:13:28 AM »
You need to get ahold of traditions and have them send you a shorter front sight. I had to do that to my T/C Black Diamond !!

I think you want a taller front, Or remove and file the underside of the rear.

This calculator is for pistol, but should work to figure out how the new height needed.

https://dawsonprecision.com/sight-calculator/

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Re: Muzzleloader sight in trouble
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2017, 08:57:24 AM »
You need to get ahold of traditions and have them send you a shorter front sight. I had to do that to my T/C Black Diamond !!

I think you want a taller front, Or remove and file the underside of the rear.

This calculator is for pistol, but should work to figure out how the new height needed.

https://dawsonprecision.com/sight-calculator/

You are correct, I mis-read the problem.

Rule is you move the rear sight the direction you want the point of impact to be and in this case the rear sight is maxed out too low so the front sight would have to be higher to move the barrel down to lower the POI

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To move the line of sight DOWN (the shot hit BELOW the point of aim) the REAR sight is RAISED or the FRONT sight is LOWERED. To move the line of sight UP (the shot hit ABOVE the point of aim) the REAR sight is LOWERED or the FRONT sight is RAISED. To move the line of sight LEFT (the shot hit LEFT of the point of aim) the REAR sight is moved RIGHT, or the FRONT sight is moved LEFT. To move the line of sight RIGHT (the shot hit RIGHT of the point of aim) the REAR sight is moved LEFT, or the FRONT sight is moved RIGHT./quote]
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Re: Muzzleloader sight in trouble
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2017, 08:52:05 AM »
6 o'clock hold and maybe sight in gun two weeks before season instead of one. :yike:
he's had his gun on back order for 3 weeks now just got it thanks for the tip though never was sorted that out myself

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Re: Muzzleloader sight in trouble
« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2017, 08:53:37 AM »
He got ahold of traditions and got a taller front sight and the guns all side it in and ready for tomorrow morning thanks for all the tips guys I appreciate it

 

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