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Possible poaching in the Bumping
« on: October 15, 2017, 07:41:45 AM »
Hi all,

Just got back from Muzzle hunting in the Bumping. Tag soup for our group..... some bulls were still bugling but would not come to the calls.

More concerning is we found (with our noses) 2 dead elk (5x1 and a spike) about 100 yards off of the Bumping road and about a 1/2 mile apart. Could clearly see what appeared to be a hole in the chest of the spike.

My camera is also in the area,... and attached is a pic of the 5x1.

Last year we found the remains of a spike that was shot at 2:00am (I was awake and heard the truck and the shot) right down from our camp on the Bumping road.... Report it = "No response".

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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2017, 07:46:18 AM »
Darn. WDFW needs to set up decoys around here. I'm sure they'd get a few people shooting at it.

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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2017, 07:47:12 AM »
Poachers are everywhere. :bash:
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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2017, 08:55:02 AM »
There are some decidedly UNsportsman like individuals frequenting the area.   The best defense of our reputations, resources and game is eyes open.   No tattle tales here,  but all facts and evidence turned over to LE.   

Plus the added bonus of draw points if you actually help catch the !@&$¥%!    We found three whole carcasses in the Natchez unit last year during modern.  Right off logging roads, been chewed on a bit but obviously down for a month or less.   

It seems I get license/game checked every year somewhere in the unit, but they can't be everywhere.   Take the "eyes in the woods" course In The off season.  With all these !explicative! In the woods your sure to get an easy ten point bump.

It was game cameras that caught a whole ring of them.  Read the Seattle times article that came out last week.  The public comments were disheartening
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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2017, 10:10:17 AM »
Is it possible since they were both legal spikes, that hunters shot and lost them?

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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2017, 10:29:05 AM »
Is it possible since they were both legal spikes, that hunters shot and lost them?

That’s just silly talk. Any dead animal found must been poached.  :bash:

There are some decidedly UNsportsman like individuals frequenting the area.   The best defense of our reputations, resources and game is eyes open.   No tattle tales here,  but all facts and evidence turned over to LE.   

Plus the added bonus of draw points if you actually help catch the !@&$¥%!    We found three whole carcasses in the Natchez unit last year during modern.  Right off logging roads, been chewed on a bit but obviously down for a month or less.   

It seems I get license/game checked every year somewhere in the unit, but they can't be everywhere.   Take the "eyes in the woods" course In The off season.  With all these !explicative! In the woods your sure to get an easy ten point bump.

It was game cameras that caught a whole ring of them.  Read the Seattle times article that came out last week.  The public comments were disheartening

If it wasn’t for Oregon state police doing their jobs. That ring would still be out doing what they did. WDFW shouldn’t get a lick of credit for that bust. That was all Oregon that busted that case wide open. Just my  :twocents:

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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2017, 10:47:28 AM »
If it wasn’t for Oregon state police doing their jobs. That ring would still be out doing what they did. WDFW shouldn’t get a lick of credit for that bust. That was all Oregon that busted that case wide open.

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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2017, 10:58:42 AM »
Check out the front page of the Seattle Times today a huge article about 7 poachers being charged.

http://www.kptv.com/story/36296462/seven-people-charged-in-massive-washington-poaching-investigation

2 of the 7 have 60+ charges pending. Such a waste of life, it's disgusting that people like this get away with it for years.  Take pictures, video record it and brag about it.

Joseph Dills, 30 of Longview 64 counts
William Haynes, 23 of Longview 61 counts

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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2017, 12:42:55 PM »
Is it possible since they were both legal spikes, that hunters shot and lost them?

Anything is possible I guess,.... but ,.... both animals were less than 100yds off the paved Bumping Road,... in fact the 5x1 was only about 50yds off the road......

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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2017, 12:45:30 PM »
Is it possible since they were both legal spikes, that hunters shot and lost them?

Also,.... the whole GMU was closed due to the fires to all (except residence of Gooseprairie) during the entire Archery season......
« Last Edit: October 15, 2017, 01:11:18 PM by lee »

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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2017, 01:28:52 PM »
Not all dead animals you find are poached. Even those with obvious bullet holes. Some wounded animals escape and die later from their wounds.  I shot an elk once during modern rifle that turned out to have a maxi ball in it's shoulder from an apparently good shot. It just didn't die from it. 

Someone may have been guilty of not looking hard enough for a wounded animal, (or not), but that doesn't make them a poacher. I wouldn't jump to conclusions without more info or facts.
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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2017, 01:37:03 PM »
This thread is pointless. Putting pointless accusations out there for the anti hunters to see. No facts or anything to uphold these accusations.

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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2017, 03:34:16 PM »
This thread is pointless. Putting pointless accusations out there for the anti hunters to see. No facts or anything to uphold these accusations.

Well.... the FACT is: two elk were killed off of the Bumping road a 1/4 mile apart and left to rot a mere 50-100yds off of the road.... when the road was closed to hunting due to fires... Doesn't take a rocket scientist to put 2 and 2 together....

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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2017, 03:46:51 PM »
This thread is pointless. Putting pointless accusations out there for the anti hunters to see. No facts or anything to uphold these accusations.

Well.... the FACT is: two elk were killed off of the Bumping road a 1/4 mile apart and left to rot a mere 50-100yds off of the road.... when the road was closed to hunting due to fires... Doesn't take a rocket scientist to put 2 and 2 together....

Road was closed for archery. Was the road closed for muzzy season? So rocket scientist. Tell me how long does it take a animal body to decompose in the weather we had? Again your jumping to conclusions. Not every animal you find 50 yards or 50 miles off the road was poached. What would the likely hood of an elderly man shooting it. Bull runs off. He tried what he could to recover it but couldn’t. Instead of plastering the forum about possible poachers. Why not post hey I found two dead elk during muzzy season on was a spikex5. Maybe an honest law abiding hunter would contact you. But nope let’s go and blast about poaching. Cause this state isn’t getting enough attention on that already.   :bash:

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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2017, 05:38:07 PM »
This thread is pointless. Putting pointless accusations out there for the anti hunters to see. No facts or anything to uphold these accusations.
Sorry you lost your Elk.  Better luck next time.

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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2017, 06:18:56 PM »
This thread is pointless. Putting pointless accusations out there for the anti hunters to see. No facts or anything to uphold these accusations.
Sorry you lost your Elk.  Better luck next time.

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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2017, 07:46:31 PM »
Found 2 dead spikes 2 seasons ago in the Taneum both shot during rifle season I just chalk it up to lazy hunters. We chatted with 1 guy that had shot one of them they didn’t even go after then one. Just mind boggling to me. Lazy ass slobs!

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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2017, 01:31:36 PM »
This thread is pointless. Putting pointless accusations out there for the anti hunters to see. No facts or anything to uphold these accusations.
Sorry you lost your Elk.  Better luck next time.

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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2017, 07:55:15 AM »
Wow, people sure are getting nasty to one another on here. The OP did say "possible" poaching. Why not present alternatives without the personal attacks and keyboard warrior-style BS? We're all hunters. We all care about two wasted elk. Maybe just assume good intent of each other until proven otherwise.

OP, did you report the find?
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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2017, 08:46:27 AM »
You can even text in the details and report it, photos, gps coordinates and whatever else you have.

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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2017, 09:01:08 AM »
I don't understand the resistance to reporting to WDFW on this forum. I realize that (hopefully) its just a vocal few who have had bad experiences with, but ill report anything I deem even remotely suspicious every time. Its not always poaching, but the reason the clowns in OR got away with it for so long wasnt because they were mastermind criminals. I value my hunting rights and the lives of these animals too much to even bother with second guessing my decisions to call.

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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2017, 12:17:22 PM »
 :tup:
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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2017, 12:39:11 PM »
I am all for people calling in suspicious stuff.  Let the WDFW guys figure out if it pencils out or not.
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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2017, 02:01:22 PM »
I don't understand the resistance to reporting to WDFW on this forum. I realize that (hopefully) its just a vocal few who have had bad experiences with, but ill report anything I deem even remotely suspicious every time. Its not always poaching, but the reason the clowns in OR got away with it for so long wasnt because they were mastermind criminals. I value my hunting rights and the lives of these animals too much to even bother with second guessing my decisions to call.
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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2017, 07:37:09 AM »
I am all for people calling in suspicious stuff.  Let the WDFW guys figure out if it pencils out or not.

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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2017, 07:59:18 AM »
Morn'un,

Follow-up: Received a phone call from the Fish & Games folks yesterday thanking me for the Report I posted. Nice Fellow ... told me they don't get many reports from that area.

I was pleasantly surprised as I didn't expect to hear from them.

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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2017, 08:03:04 AM »
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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2017, 08:59:53 AM »
If it wasn’t for Oregon state police doing their jobs. That ring would still be out doing what they did. WDFW shouldn’t get a lick of credit for that bust. That was all Oregon that busted that case wide open.

Truth!  :yeah:

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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2017, 09:33:53 AM »
Morn'un,

Follow-up: Received a phone call from the Fish & Games folks yesterday thanking me for the Report I posted. Nice Fellow ... told me they don't get many reports from that area.

I was pleasantly surprised as I didn't expect to hear from them.

Lee

So did they go out and investigate or did they just call to thank you  :dunno:

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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #30 on: October 20, 2017, 09:36:02 AM »

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So did they go out and investigate or did they just call to thank you  :dunno:
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Both,... Thanked me and said he would visit the carcasses.

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So did they go out and investigate or did they just call to thank you  :dunno:
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Both,... Thanked me and said he would visit the carcasses.

Lee
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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #32 on: October 21, 2017, 04:24:43 AM »
How many animals do you guys think get shot and never recovered? I bet it's an outstanding number!

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« Reply #33 on: October 21, 2017, 08:41:46 AM »
How many animals do you guys think get shot and never recovered? I bet it's an outstanding number!

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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #34 on: October 21, 2017, 09:49:38 AM »
I still say call it all in. This bull was found opening morning of muzzy deer in the colockum. Archery elk had ended five days before, muzzy bull permits started that morning. This bull had obviously been dead for a day or two. Head tied to a tree and covered in branches. Maybe it was an archery guy that just hadn”t made it back for the head. Game department seemed pretty interested to take a look.
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Re: Possible poaching in the Bumping
« Reply #35 on: October 21, 2017, 11:38:14 AM »
I still say call it all in. This bull was found opening morning of muzzy deer in the colockum. Archery elk had ended five days before, muzzy bull permits started that morning. This bull had obviously been dead for a day or two. Head tied to a tree and covered in branches. Maybe it was an archery guy that just hadn”t made it back for the head. Game department seemed pretty interested to take a look.
Kinda odd scene to walk upon in woods...
although that has got to be 1 of the longest running jokes in most camps. "hey Andy, next season I ll tie it to a tree so you wont miss" or "Dad's so old, I would have to tie it to a tree for him to see anything."

If it seems off or odd nothing wrong with letting those who get paid for such to take a look...We've been fed as a society to look the other way for a long time...
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