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Out of state mountain goat
« on: October 24, 2017, 09:06:00 PM »
I have a rolling savings fund for my next hunting trip going but I had to cancel it when my dad backed out. I'm seriously considering a mountain goat trip in BC or Alaska as I'm sure I won't draw in Washington in the next two years.

Anyone have experience or know anyone who has hunted goats who can recommend a guide to go with or not to go with? I like the idea of a fly in Alaska hunt but I'm not set in stone on anything yet.

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Re: Out of state mountain goat
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2017, 02:56:59 PM »
Hi-

Only can share the perspective of one mountain goat hunt (but can compare to three other trips in Alaska). I went with Dan Montgomery of Alaska Trophy Adventures.  He was, without a doubt, the best guide/outfitter that I've used in North America....and far better than the other three I used in Alaska.

He operates in the Chugach range of Alaska.  The one disadvantage is you have to apply- he will put you in for the drawing so that part is convenient- and it is straight draw with no bonus or preference points.  The advantages are many...trophy quality on sheep is outstanding and very good for goat.  Arguably SE Alaska goats score better than goats in Dan's area- and BC would certainly be better- but I shot a B&C goat on the first day of the hunt that I was thrilled with.  The area is beautiful, with lots of glaciers, and he and his guides are responsible, thoughtful, professional...everything that you'd want in a hunt.  One small example...we got back to the tent around 10:00 pm after a very long day....pouring rain and cold/windy...my wife and I crawled into our tent, spent.  Dan stood outside in that nasty weather cooking us dinner with a grin on his face....he's an older dude but a beast in the mountains and yet very considerate to go at our pace.  Check him out on facebook, his website or give him a call...he should be done with his fall hunts and available.  Good luck with whomever you choose, and- I'm sure that you've heard this already- hike as much as you can before you go.  Goat hunting is no joke!

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Re: Out of state mountain goat
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2017, 03:42:47 PM »
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Re: Out of state mountain goat
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2017, 06:21:08 PM »
I went with North River Outfitting out of Northern BC this year.  I would HIGHLY recommend their operation.  If your main goal is to just kill a giant Boone and Crockett goat, you need to look at the coastal range in BC.  If you want to do the fly-in deal and experience some of the most remote and gorgeous country there is, go in-land in BC in the Cassiar's where I went.  We were over 100 miles from the nearest road.  You'll see moose, stone sheep, caribou and maybe a griz on your hunt.  And a TON of goats.  They average a 9.5" goat with some bigger.  Mine was 10", 8.5 years old and will make B&C.  They had a goat a sheep hunter had killed when I got there that was 11.5 years old.  He was only 9 5/8", but the bases were massive. 

Ron and Maria with North River are two of the nicest people you'll meet; and hardest working.  They go up in May and start their prep all summer long living in the bush with their crew.  They scout all summer and start hunting stones in the end of July.  They know where the animals are and will put you on animals no question.  Their area can produce B&C animals in all the species they offer.  Goat, moose, stone sheep, caribou and grizzly.  They have a great crew with around 10 guides, camp cooks etc.  Everyone is extremely welcoming and there to help you have a great hunt and succeed.  You'll be assigned a guide and packer on your hunt.  If you kill early, you can hunt wolves or fish, or if you have a combo hunt you can start hunting for your next animal. 

Hunts are usually about 7 days for goats and 10 for other species.  You won't need 7 days to kill a good goat with them.  Take a look at their site here:  http://northriveroutfitting.com

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Re: Out of state mountain goat
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2017, 06:40:01 PM »
Hi-

Only can share the perspective of one mountain goat hunt (but can compare to three other trips in Alaska). I went with Dan Montgomery of Alaska Trophy Adventures.  He was, without a doubt, the best guide/outfitter that I've used in North America....and far better than the other three I used in Alaska.

He operates in the Chugach range of Alaska.  The one disadvantage is you have to apply- he will put you in for the drawing so that part is convenient- and it is straight draw with no bonus or preference points.  The advantages are many...trophy quality on sheep is outstanding and very good for goat.  Arguably SE Alaska goats score better than goats in Dan's area- and BC would certainly be better- but I shot a B&C goat on the first day of the hunt that I was thrilled with.  The area is beautiful, with lots of glaciers, and he and his guides are responsible, thoughtful, professional...everything that you'd want in a hunt.  One small example...we got back to the tent around 10:00 pm after a very long day....pouring rain and cold/windy...my wife and I crawled into our tent, spent.  Dan stood outside in that nasty weather cooking us dinner with a grin on his face....he's an older dude but a beast in the mountains and yet very considerate to go at our pace.  Check him out on facebook, his website or give him a call...he should be done with his fall hunts and available.  Good luck with whomever you choose, and- I'm sure that you've heard this already- hike as much as you can before you go.  Goat hunting is no joke!

I havenít hunted goat with Dan but have 2 good friends who have hunted sheep with him and have met him last year at the WWSF banquet.   Great guy and has a flawless reputation in the industry.  There is no way you could go wrong with him. 
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Re: Out of state mountain goat
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2017, 07:31:15 PM »
Both of those look like top notch outfits!

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Re: Out of state mountain goat
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2017, 08:52:14 AM »
It's refreshing to hear good reviews...

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Re: Out of state mountain goat
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2017, 06:45:57 PM »
Just reading those wants me to plan a goat hunt


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Re: Out of state mountain goat
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2017, 07:16:30 PM »
Just reading those wants me to plan a goat hunt


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I keep spiralling down the rabbit hole though and trying to figure out how to spend a month chasing goats sheep beats and moose. Thanks again for the two recommendations.

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Re: Out of state mountain goat
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2017, 07:51:35 PM »
For a little money up front and returned if not drawn Idaho has some of the best draw odds out there for there OIL tags.


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Re: Out of state mountain goat
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2017, 08:39:03 PM »
For a little money up front and returned if not drawn Idaho has some of the best draw odds out there for there OIL tags.


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Is that where the goat in tour avatar is from?

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Re: Out of state mountain goat
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2017, 08:40:35 PM »
No I drew goat rocks in  2015.


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Re: Out of state mountain goat
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2017, 08:41:23 PM »
No I drew goat rocks in  2015.


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Lol I've been trying but I'm not holding my breath for that.

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Re: Out of state mountain goat
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2017, 08:46:12 PM »
It only took me 19 years


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Re: Out of state mountain goat
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2017, 09:02:49 PM »
It only took me 19 years


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It only took me 9.....

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Re: Out of state mountain goat
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2017, 09:13:50 PM »
Rub it in 😜


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Re: Out of state mountain goat
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2017, 06:54:32 PM »
Did you guys fly up? I'm thinking maybe drive up because shipping meat and hides home seems intimidating and expensive.

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Re: Out of state mountain goat
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2017, 08:08:51 AM »
Did you guys fly up? I'm thinking maybe drive up because shipping meat and hides home seems intimidating and expensive.

I drove up.  Took 21 hours.  You have two options if you hunt with North River.  You can drive to Smithers BC and catch a charter flight  directly to their lodge from there, takes about 2.5 hours.  15 hour drive from Bonney Lake to Smithers. 

Or, you can drive to Tatogga Lake Resort on the Cassiar hwy.  (Awesome drive and lots of animals along the way.  Had black bears standing in the highway in numerous spots.) Takes an extra 6 hours.  But there you'll catch a little float plane and fly in about 45 min to their lodge.  I opted for this option just so I could see more country along the way, and I went up two days earlier than expected as they offered it if I drove all the way.  Otherwise you're stuck with their main flight from Smithers with the other group of hunters and you're in there the entire length of the scheduled hunt even if you kill on day one.  If you drive to Tatogga and kill early, you can fly out back to your truck and drive home early. 


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Re: Out of state mountain goat
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2017, 08:25:41 AM »
I was checking out their price list, beyond that and your drive up costs (fuel, lodging, food) any unexpected expenses jump out at you? 

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Re: Out of state mountain goat
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2017, 08:39:17 AM »
quite the road trip, not sure where the lodge itself is?


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Re: Out of state mountain goat
« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2017, 09:10:14 AM »
It's not much of a lodge.  Restaurant and about 8 cabins you can stay in.  The Cassiar HWY is very desolate.  It's one of those there's not fuel for 100 miles so fill up here. 

And you still have the hunt cost itself added to that pricing.  They don't have the actual hunt costs on their site right now as they are making adjustments for 2018.  I believe a goat hunt is $14,000.


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Re: Out of state mountain goat
« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2017, 10:05:21 AM »
It's not much of a lodge.  Restaurant and about 8 cabins you can stay in.  The Cassiar HWY is very desolate.  It's one of those there's not fuel for 100 miles so fill up here. 

And you still have the hunt cost itself added to that pricing.  They don't have the actual hunt costs on their site right now as they are making adjustments for 2018.  I believe a goat hunt is $14,000.

BC requires a guide for non-res goat hunt, right?
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Re: Out of state mountain goat
« Reply #22 on: November 02, 2017, 11:29:00 AM »
I would go with Jason Bunch of Kodiak back country adventures. He is the man for goats!!

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Re: Out of state mountain goat
« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2017, 05:02:19 PM »
It's not much of a lodge.  Restaurant and about 8 cabins you can stay in.  The Cassiar HWY is very desolate.  It's one of those there's not fuel for 100 miles so fill up here. 

And you still have the hunt cost itself added to that pricing.  They don't have the actual hunt costs on their site right now as they are making adjustments for 2018.  I believe a goat hunt is $14,000.

BC requires a guide for non-res goat hunt, right?

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Re: Out of state mountain goat
« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2017, 07:10:19 PM »
It's not much of a lodge.  Restaurant and about 8 cabins you can stay in.  The Cassiar HWY is very desolate.  It's one of those there's not fuel for 100 miles so fill up here. 

And you still have the hunt cost itself added to that pricing.  They don't have the actual hunt costs on their site right now as they are making adjustments for 2018.  I believe a goat hunt is $14,000.

BC requires a guide for non-res goat hunt, right?

Now that you've got one under your belt your a goat guy destined to take more huh???

That's actually something I'm kind of worried about.

 

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