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Trucks recommendations? Or avoid?
« on: December 02, 2017, 08:29:06 AM »
My 1997 f150 5.4L just spit a spark plug (like they are notorious for). I have had the truck for 10 years so I plan to get a different truck (unless someone convinces me it is worth fixing).

I plan to get a full-size gas since I don't really need diesel. I have a 18' camp trailer I haul maybe 8 times a year. Any recommendations of what trucks to avoid or what truck to get? Also, any recommendations on where to go for a good deal in tri-cities? I could travel to spokane, Seattle, or portland if it's worth it.
I plan to spend under $12k. Thanks in advance!

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Re: Trucks recommendations? Or avoid?
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2017, 09:13:41 AM »
Fix yours if the truck is still in nice shape and serves your needs, the fix is not too bad, have a shop do it if you do not have the tools needed to do it right. Cost should be around 400 + or minus.
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Re: Trucks recommendations? Or avoid?
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2017, 09:22:17 AM »
Fix yours if the truck is still in nice shape and serves your needs, the fix is not too bad, have a shop do it if you do not have the tools needed to do it right. Cost should be around 400 + or minus.
Thanks buckmark! Do you know what has to be done to fix it? Does it need a new head since the threads are stripped out in that cylinder now?

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Re: Trucks recommendations? Or avoid?
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2017, 09:30:49 AM »
I don't think you need a new head.
My buddies explorer spit a plug heading to deer camp and just had a local shop put in a helicoil I think it was called
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Re: Trucks recommendations? Or avoid?
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2017, 09:40:48 AM »
Unless someone has dove in there already trying to fix it and really buggered it up it should be repairable.
The way we fix them is to install a sav-a-thread insert.
My technicians use a reamer - rethreader that cuts and taps the hole to the insert size, grease on the rethreader to catch debris, after rethreading they make sure the cylinder is cleaned out with air or the shop vac and often start the engine to final clear, they then install the correct thread insert with some loctite and seat properly, install new spark plug and torque to spec, install new coil, clear PCM of any codes present or active, start engine and check misfire data, road test.

I have never had a return failure for a cylinder we repaired.

Or if you think the truck is now junk i will take it off your hands for scrap value for a property truck  :chuckle:
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Re: Trucks recommendations? Or avoid?
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2017, 10:51:28 AM »
Had that happen to me in August I believe. They did as Buckmark said, cost  $375 if I remember right. I thought I had blown up the engine or something, and was surprised the fix was not too expensive and I picked up my truck the next day...

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« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2017, 11:08:29 AM »
Is this a Ford thing? I never heard of this. :chuckle:
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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2017, 04:15:31 PM »
Is this a Ford thing? I never heard of this. :chuckle:
Ford 5.4 and V10 thing.

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Re: Trucks recommendations? Or avoid?
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2017, 04:18:24 PM »
Is this a Ford thing? I never heard of this. :chuckle:

All great advice. An easy-ish fix. 
And yeah, it's a Ford thing, just TOO much horsepower trying to get out.   :chuckle:

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Re: Trucks recommendations? Or avoid?
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2017, 04:20:39 PM »
Is this a Ford thing? I never heard of this. :chuckle:

All great advice. An easy-ish fix. 
And yeah, it's a Ford thing, just TOO much horsepower trying to get out.   :chuckle:

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« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2017, 04:21:05 PM »
From the experiences of friends and coworkers, i would avoid dodge 360's because of cracked heads, and dodge 4.7L because of oil sludge issues. I know 3 people who ended up with significant engine damage because their 4.7s weren't pumping oil properly.

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« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2017, 04:59:12 PM »
From the experiences of friends and coworkers, i would avoid dodge
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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2017, 05:28:03 PM »
From the experiences of friends and coworkers, i would avoid dodge
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« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2017, 05:50:10 PM »
Thanks for all the help, I appreciate it! I will call around to get it fixed. Sounds like it might not be as bad as I thought.

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Re: Trucks recommendations? Or avoid?
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2017, 05:56:05 PM »
My 1997 f150 5.4L just spit a spark plug (like they are notorious for). I have had the truck for 10 years so I plan to get a different truck (unless someone convinces me it is worth fixing).

I plan to get a full-size gas since I don't really need diesel. I have a 18' camp trailer I haul maybe 8 times a year. Any recommendations of what trucks to avoid or what truck to get? Also, any recommendations on where to go for a good deal in tri-cities? I could travel to spokane, Seattle, or portland if it's worth it.
I plan to spend under $12k. Thanks in advance!

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When you say full size do you mean 1/2 or 3/4 ton?

12k doesn't buy a lot on the used truck market currently from a dealer. Your best bet is to search Craigslist and Offer up private party ads. Ford V10's can be a pretty good value at that price point, but the mileage is terrible.  The Chevy's have good motors, but the 4 speed transmission is a weak point. I wouldn't buy a dodge because the years you are looking at will have a lot of suspension and electrical problems.

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« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2017, 04:39:12 PM »
 :) :) :) or do you just wanna new truck!!!??
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« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2017, 09:08:19 PM »
Always cheaper to fix.  A $500+ a month payment will do a lot of repairing and maintenance to a older truck..

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Re: Trucks recommendations? Or avoid?
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2017, 10:04:56 PM »
Buy a used tundra
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« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2017, 05:12:29 AM »
Bofire - I do also want a new truck :) with 4 kids it would be nice to get a quad cab. Also, my 97 truck has plenty of other issues.

slowhand - A tundra is what I have been wanting since before I even got my current truck :) I have been looking at used Tundra's on Craigslist.

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« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2017, 05:25:22 AM »
Easy fix I've done it twice no problems

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« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2017, 05:28:29 AM »
Lots of YouTube videos show how to repair this really easy.

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« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2017, 05:30:36 AM »
Had the same thing happen to my plymouth neon. Cost me around 40 bucks for the sav-a-thread kit, loctite, and new plugs. The tow bill was 350, aluminum heads suck.

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« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2017, 08:19:26 AM »
Had the same thing happen to my plymouth neon. Cost me around 40 bucks for the sav-a-thread kit, loctite, and new plugs. The tow bill was 350, aluminum heads suck.

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Plenty of vehicles with aluminum heads and no issues. It's an issue of how much material they're threading the plugs into.
Too bad the tow bill was more than any neon is worth.

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« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2017, 08:20:10 AM »
Buy a used tundra
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For under $12k?

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« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2017, 08:25:39 AM »
Easy fix I've done it twice no problems
Do not use this, in my experience (having repaired 3 vehicles that repaired there own with these) they do not work
First off the one pictured is incorrect for your vehicle, Second off the threads in the head are what is damaged and the insert shown here does not address this problem correctly. The way i suggested earlier in this thread is the best way i have found to do this repair, but hey what do i know compared to the armchair huntwa mechanics?
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