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Do you wear hunter orange?

Yes
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Yes, but wouldn't if it weren't required by the regulations
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No
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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2017, 09:24:11 AM »
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here does the government say you have to wear hunters orange? Isn't that a state law?

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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2017, 09:24:19 AM »
People get killed every year by Hunter's not identifying their target. I don't want to be a statistic. Some orange on me even when not required.

 :yeah:  And my sons are required to wear more than I do.  yeah yeah it's a do as a say thing I know.
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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2017, 09:26:54 AM »
What I dislike is the term "hunter orange".  When did the color become "hunter" orange. 

When I took hunter ed back in the 70's it was called blaze orange.

I think the term florescent orange is used sometimes or hi-vis orange.  I guess I'm just against change, and I'd prefer to keep referring to it as blaze orange.  But then, I guess I'm just old.........  :)
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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2017, 09:59:20 AM »
Where does the government say you have to wear hunters orange? Isn't that a state law?
That is a distinction without a difference. 

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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #29 on: December 19, 2017, 10:12:43 AM »
So, did negligent shootings decrease because of blaze orange or because of hunter's ed?  They sort of came around at the same time. 

I wear during mod deer and elk.  I even add extra during deer when walking back to the car--too many drunks out there.

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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #30 on: December 19, 2017, 10:59:10 AM »
I voted yes but I believe their is more than one answer for me.

I always wear the required amount per state requirements for where I am hunting.  Wyoming I rock the hat.  Washington 400sq inches, CO vest and a hat.  Idaho doesn't require Orange so I don't wear it.  The country I hunt there is remote and isolated so I've never felt I needed it.  I ALWAYS carry an orange vest in my kill kit however for wrapping around antlers during packouts or if I ever felt I needed to wear it.

With that, if today WDFW said no more orange, I would still wear Orange here because it's the only place in North America where I've ever felt it is a vital necessity.  Our modern seasons here are the worst displays of ethics, morals, and safety you will find as a whole. Not sure why that is but out of all the places I've been and hunted it holds true.  Possibly it is due to the high concentrations of hunters battling for a very limited number of legal animals :dunno:
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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #31 on: December 19, 2017, 11:03:47 AM »
So, did negligent shootings decrease because of blaze orange or because of hunter's ed?  They sort of came around at the same time. 


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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2017, 11:13:25 AM »
I voted yes but I believe their is more than one answer for me.

I always wear the required amount per state requirements for where I am hunting.  Wyoming I rock the hat.  Washington 400sq inches, CO vest and a hat.  Idaho doesn't require Orange so I don't wear it.  The country I hunt there is remote and isolated so I've never felt I needed it.  I ALWAYS carry an orange vest in my kill kit however for wrapping around antlers during packouts or if I ever felt I needed to wear it.

With that, if today WDFW said no more orange, I would still wear Orange here because it's the only place in North America where I've ever felt it is a vital necessity.  Our modern seasons here are the worst displays of ethics, morals, and safety you will find as a whole. Not sure why that is but out of all the places I've been and hunted it holds true.  Possibly it is due to the high concentrations of hunters battling for a very limited number of legal animals :dunno:

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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2017, 11:17:43 AM »
If you are on the No wear side, you have never had anyone close to you get shot while hunting.

I have and it is life changing forever.

My best friend was shot but not killed. My brother was the shooter. I saw both sides, and if you think good hunters do not make bad mistakes than you are real mis informed.

I do not wear it muzzy elk.
I do for modern deer and I do for bear hunting any time the bear season is open. All my family is required to wear it or they do not hunt with me. All my friends are required to wear it if the law calls for it or they do not hunt out of our camp.

The difference is rifle scopes, If scopes were allowed on muzzy's than hunter orange should be required also.  :twocents:
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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #34 on: December 19, 2017, 11:33:05 AM »
If it were really a safety issue, wouldn't EVERY user group be required to wear it?  :dunno:

No. It's required for modern and not the others because of the extreme distances modern firearms can take an animal and how hard it is to identify your target at those distances. Hunting incidents with ML or archery are extremely rare, although they do happen.
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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #35 on: December 19, 2017, 11:33:13 AM »
I do it but don't like it.  Wopuld be interesting to compare # of hunters, # of accidents to states that do not have the requirement.
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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #36 on: December 19, 2017, 11:34:54 AM »
If it were really a safety issue, wouldn't EVERY user group be required to wear it?  :dunno:

No. It's required for modern and not the others because of the extreme distances modern firearms can take an animal and how hard it is to identify your target at those distances. Hunting incidents with ML or archery are extremely rare, although they do happen.

 Pman, theres something wrong with that reasoning I believe, if you can't identify a guy walking on a hillside 400yds away, how can you identify a legal animal?
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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #37 on: December 19, 2017, 11:40:30 AM »
If it were really a safety issue, wouldn't EVERY user group be required to wear it?  :dunno:

No. It's required for modern and not the others because of the extreme distances modern firearms can take an animal and how hard it is to identify your target at those distances. Hunting incidents with ML or archery are extremely rare, although they do happen.


 Pman, theres something wrong with that reasoning I believe, if you can't identify a guy walking on a hillside 400yds away, how can you identify a legal animal?


I identify before I shoot. You likely do. But are you questioning the fact that sometimes idiots hunt? I wear orange because of idiots and that I'd like to continue living for a while. Nothing at all wrong with my reasoning.
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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #38 on: December 19, 2017, 11:41:32 AM »
If it were really a safety issue, wouldn't EVERY user group be required to wear it?  :dunno:

No. It's required for modern and not the others because of the extreme distances modern firearms can take an animal and how hard it is to identify your target at those distances. Hunting incidents with ML or archery are extremely rare, although they do happen.

 Pman, theres something wrong with that reasoning I believe, if you can't identify a guy walking on a hillside 400yds away, how can you identify a legal animal?
Not that either is good, but I think most wouldn't equate accidentally shooting a human with shooting an illegal animal.
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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #39 on: December 19, 2017, 11:42:44 AM »
I do it but don't like it.  Wopuld be interesting to compare # of hunters, # of accidents to states that do not have the requirement.

According to the statistics I've seen, the use of hunter orange has drastically cut the number of hunting incidents since the 70s. If I remember correctly, something like 80-90%. My memory's not great.
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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #40 on: December 19, 2017, 11:44:03 AM »
I'm with Bobcats reply on this one.

So here is a scenario for you.  You are walking along a wastway in Eastern WA.  You are jump shooting ducks in your camo, using steel shot everything legal. However you have a East side Pheasant permit (or what ever they call them these days)  And a Rooster jumps up in front of you, do you shoot it or do you let it fly away?  If you shoot it did you just break the law because you didn't have any orange on?

One other thought if I am hunting on hundreds of acres of private land the only one with permission to hunt there who are they to tell me what to wear.

I personally feel that the law was passed because many game agents are to lazy to walk out in the field and meet with the hunters.  They can now just sit in their vehicles and use their Bino's and meet you back at your vehicles and assume you did something wrong and its up to you the hunter to prove you were hunting by the rules. 

Care to ask me how I really feel about it? 

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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #41 on: December 19, 2017, 11:46:54 AM »
Um no. It was to reduce hunting incidents and it has.
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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #42 on: December 19, 2017, 11:47:20 AM »
If it were really a safety issue, wouldn't EVERY user group be required to wear it?  :dunno:

No. It's required for modern and not the others because of the extreme distances modern firearms can take an animal and how hard it is to identify your target at those distances. Hunting incidents with ML or archery are extremely rare, although they do happen.

I was referring to ANYONE in the woods. Hikers, brush pickers, walking your dog, checking cows... It's not like hunters are the only group in the woods at any given time.

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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #43 on: December 19, 2017, 11:53:02 AM »
If it were really a safety issue, wouldn't EVERY user group be required to wear it?  :dunno:

No. It's required for modern and not the others because of the extreme distances modern firearms can take an animal and how hard it is to identify your target at those distances. Hunting incidents with ML or archery are extremely rare, although they do happen.

 Pman, theres something wrong with that reasoning I believe, if you can't identify a guy walking on a hillside 400yds away, how can you identify a legal animal?
Right, you have to verify a deer is a buck or 3 pt, an elk is spike or true spike or 3 pt forking above the ear, bear doesn't have a cub, cougar doesn't have spots or cubs, etc. 

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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #44 on: December 19, 2017, 11:54:34 AM »
Some could argue that being conditioned that all hunters are wearing hunter orange may cause more accidents.  Case in point the gal in the blue coat.   If she was wearing hunter orange, she may not have been shot.  She wasnt hunting though.  The kid probably should have known his target. 

Devils advocate, I can do my own study.  Ive been shot at more while wearing orange than I have without.  :chuckle:

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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #45 on: December 19, 2017, 11:58:25 AM »
If it were really a safety issue, wouldn't EVERY user group be required to wear it?  :dunno:

No. It's required for modern and not the others because of the extreme distances modern firearms can take an animal and how hard it is to identify your target at those distances. Hunting incidents with ML or archery are extremely rare, although they do happen.


I was referring to ANYONE in the woods. Hikers, brush pickers, walking your dog, checking cows... It's not like hunters are the only group in the woods at any given time.

Regardless, it's far easier to correctly identify your target at 100 yards or under than it is at 400. When I'm out picking in the Fall, I always wear hunter orange, no matter the season.
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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #46 on: December 19, 2017, 12:00:10 PM »
Some could argue that being conditioned that all hunters are wearing hunter orange may cause more accidents.  Case in point the gal in the blue coat.   If she was wearing hunter orange, she may not have been shot.  She wasnt hunting though.  The kid probably should have known his target. 

Devils advocate, I can do my own study.  Ive been shot at more while wearing orange than I have without.  :chuckle:

But were you shot at on purpose or on accident because of the orange, I believe orange definitely cuts down on the accidental shootings.

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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #47 on: December 19, 2017, 12:07:58 PM »
If it were really a safety issue, wouldn't EVERY user group be required to wear it?  :dunno:

No. It's required for modern and not the others because of the extreme distances modern firearms can take an animal and how hard it is to identify your target at those distances. Hunting incidents with ML or archery are extremely rare, although they do happen.


I was referring to ANYONE in the woods. Hikers, brush pickers, walking your dog, checking cows... It's not like hunters are the only group in the woods at any given time.

Regardless, it's far easier to correctly identify your target at 100 yards or under than it is at 400. When I'm out picking in the Fall, I always wear hunter orange, no matter the season.
True, but it's also tougher to hear some rustling and then see some dark movement in the bushes at 400 than 100 or even 20 than 100.

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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #48 on: December 19, 2017, 12:10:43 PM »
Look at the statistics for hunting incidents and let me know what you find.
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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #49 on: December 19, 2017, 12:15:53 PM »
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