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Do you wear hunter orange?

Yes
99 (55%)
Yes, but wouldn't if it weren't required by the regulations
67 (37.2%)
No
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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #50 on: December 19, 2017, 12:17:08 PM »
Hats off to the hunters ed teachers out there.  Per this report Number one reason why hunting accidents are on the decline......

Hunter Education classes have generally been required under U.S. State law in order to hold hunters to the obligation to receive training in the various points required for gun safety and the responsible use of firearms before they can be given legal certification to engage in hunting activities in that State. This measure against the occurrence of hunting accidents may not be required for people born before this law has fully come into effect. According to hunter certification departments, the frequency of hunting accidents has been greatly reduced by the availability and unavoidability of these safety measures.

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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #51 on: December 19, 2017, 12:17:24 PM »
I just wear it so I don't get fined.


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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #52 on: December 19, 2017, 12:18:59 PM »
My well being is more important than getting my undies in a bunch about the gov telling me what i have to do.
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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #53 on: December 19, 2017, 12:20:06 PM »
Thank you Boneaddict for using the word "accident" instead of "incident."   :tup:

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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #54 on: December 19, 2017, 12:21:51 PM »
Well I am not going to say I wear it all the time. Most times its nice to be way away from the roads and not have it on. It varies from state to state on the requirement.

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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #55 on: December 19, 2017, 12:24:26 PM »
Thank you Boneaddict for using the word "accident" instead of "incident."   :tup:

Nice dig, BC. The word incident is purposely used in Hunter Education. Accidents are for the most part considered unavoidable. "Accidental" shootings, on the other hand, are completely avoidable if you always follow safety rules for firearm handling.
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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #56 on: December 19, 2017, 12:26:53 PM »
My well being is more important than getting my undies in a bunch about the gov telling me what i have to do.

If you were full commando, you wouldn’t have to worry about either.  :)

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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #57 on: December 19, 2017, 12:28:21 PM »
My well being is more important than getting my undies in a bunch about the gov telling me what i have to do.

 :yeah: Bingo.
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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #58 on: December 19, 2017, 12:39:50 PM »
Tons of great information here at this link.

http://www.atsko.com/hunter-orange-proving-the-obvious/

For those that don't want to sift through it all here is a quote from the link that really brings it home.

" Prior to mandating hunter orange statewide, the state of Maine did a landmark five-year trial in one heavily hunted county. Maine required hunters in York County to wear hunter orange starting in 1967. Looking at only those injuries that could be directly affected by hunter orange, Maine found that York County had 41 percent of the state’s visibilityrelated incidents during the five years before the one-county orange requirement, but only 23 percent in the five years after. Even if some of the Maine hunters outside York County got the safety message and wore orange, the County where virtually all hunters wore it is where the big injury reduction occurred."
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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #59 on: December 19, 2017, 12:56:07 PM »
 :tup:
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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #60 on: December 19, 2017, 01:00:07 PM »
Thank you Boneaddict for using the word "accident" instead of "incident."   :tup:

Nice dig, BC. The word incident is purposely used in Hunter Education. Accidents are for the most part considered unavoidable. "Accidental" shootings, on the other hand, are completely avoidable if you always follow safety rules for firearm handling.

I know, I know. But it still annoys me. Use the word "accident" and everyone knows what you're talking about. An incident could be just about anything at all.

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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #61 on: December 19, 2017, 01:08:17 PM »
The government also tells us we cant poop in buckets and store it in the front yard.

That doesn’t bother me either.
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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #62 on: December 19, 2017, 01:11:55 PM »
As an instructor it has been drilled into me to use the word incident not accident.

Same as using the word firearm, muzzleloader, bow or crossbow and not weapon.

I had to suppress my military training when it was a weapon and not a gun.  You know, one is for killing and one is for fun? :chuckle:

Not saying weapon anymore was/is the toughest one to get used to saying in class.  Those drill sargents really drilled that one in good.
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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #63 on: December 19, 2017, 01:14:32 PM »
Let me ask this question:  What is so wrong with the state letting the individual decide what color clothing to wear?

If someone wishes to risk wearing camo clothing and potentially getting accidentally shot, why should the government care?  Just about every state has hunter education requirements and they teach about how orange will help protect you from an accidental shooting, so why not let the individual make that decision?

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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #64 on: December 19, 2017, 01:22:44 PM »
Thank you Boneaddict for using the word "accident" instead of "incident."   :tup:

Nice dig, BC. The word incident is purposely used in Hunter Education. Accidents are for the most part considered unavoidable. "Accidental" shootings, on the other hand, are completely avoidable if you always follow safety rules for firearm handling.

I know, I know. But it still annoys me. Use the word "accident" and everyone knows what you're talking about. An incident could be just about anything at all.


The word 'accident' bothers me.  It removes responsibility from the offender.  If your sling breaks and the rifle falls and shoots someone then yeah, an accident.  If you pull a trigger and shoot someone in a brown coat digging some mushrooms, pure negligence--not accidental.

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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #65 on: December 19, 2017, 01:27:40 PM »
Let me ask this question:  What is so wrong with the state letting the individual decide what color clothing to wear?

If someone wishes to risk wearing camo clothing and potentially getting accidentally shot, why should the government care?  Just about every state has hunter education requirements and they teach about how orange will help protect you from an accidental shooting, so why not let the individual make that decision?

 :dunno:
The same reason they make you wear a seatbelt which I seldom do.  :chuckle: Also the reason they make motorcyclists in Washington wear helmets.  When I was in Colorado it wasn't required by state law but the military required me to wear one.  When on base I did, off base I didn't always wear one.

But I always wear hunter orange.

Funny the rules that we choose to follow and the ones that we choose to not follow.
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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #66 on: December 19, 2017, 01:30:13 PM »
Thank you Boneaddict for using the word "accident" instead of "incident."   :tup:

Nice dig, BC. The word incident is purposely used in Hunter Education. Accidents are for the most part considered unavoidable. "Accidental" shootings, on the other hand, are completely avoidable if you always follow safety rules for firearm handling.

I know, I know. But it still annoys me. Use the word "accident" and everyone knows what you're talking about. An incident could be just about anything at all.


The word 'accident' bothers me.  It removes responsibility from the offender.  If your sling breaks and the rifle falls and shoots someone then yeah, an accident.  If you pull a trigger and shoot someone in a brown coat digging some mushrooms, pure negligence--not accidental.

I understand but even if negligent it's still an accident.

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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #67 on: December 19, 2017, 01:33:06 PM »
Let me ask this question:  What is so wrong with the state letting the individual decide what color clothing to wear?

If someone wishes to risk wearing camo clothing and potentially getting accidentally shot, why should the government care?  Just about every state has hunter education requirements and they teach about how orange will help protect you from an accidental shooting, so why not let the individual make that decision?

 :dunno:

Because they want it to be the safest sport possible to continue garnering public support when such a small portion of the population hunts (less than 4% in WA). Pictures of little Timmy taken at the 6th grade Christmas play in a story about his demise at the hand of his father in the woods doesn't help our heritage. Along with all the other news which paints gun ownership in such a horrible light, it benefits us to keep the numbers of incidents/accidents as low as possible.
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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #68 on: December 19, 2017, 02:19:40 PM »
So here's my story this year hunting in 329.

Opening morning, all stoked to hunt the elusive "true" spike, actually can't wait until Wednesday to hunt on the wind farm which we did with success :tup:

So opening morning I'm sitting just inside the tree line discouraged by the # of hunters I've seen, when I spot 2 guys making their way towards me.  I have a solid blaze orange ball cap and vest on and assume they see me.  They keep coming closer and closer to within 10' when the lead guy says "OH SH--, I didn't see you, sorry, how's the hunting going" to which I just shake my head and turn around.  :bash:

Sometimes it doesn't matter what you're wearing but I will continue to wear the vest, even in Idaho where it's not required. :tup:

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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #69 on: December 19, 2017, 02:43:10 PM »
 I wear it to be legal. In Idaho I wear it only in certain situations like dragging out a deer, coming out after dark, etc.
 Now for my humble opinion on the safety aspect. If you drove to your hunting spot, smoke cigarettes, drink pop, eat fast food, work outside of an office, or any other activity or habit that is at least 100x more likely to kill you than getting accidentally shot I think you have greater concerns. Also, if it is about public safety, why aren't hikers, bike riders, etc also required to wear it?
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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #70 on: December 19, 2017, 03:23:45 PM »
What I find amusing about people refusing to wear hunter orange is the fact that so few hunters are aware that deer really cannot see orange.  The results of a lot of testing have proven that.  And, one color that they absolutely see best is blue.  How many deer hunters do you see every year hunting in blue jeans?  When I mention that fact to people I see wearing jeans in the field, the response is usually along the lines........"I've always worn blue jeans when I hunt and I've shot a lot of deer".
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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #71 on: December 19, 2017, 03:30:15 PM »
I dont like to wear it but i do. I dont like wearing the vest so i just bought a comfortable orange hoodie amd it doesnt seem to bother me as much. But if i had the choice i wouldnt wear it all

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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #72 on: December 19, 2017, 03:53:43 PM »
If it were really a safety issue, wouldn't EVERY user group be required to wear it?  :dunno:

I think in high trafficked areas during modern season it should be required for every user group; hikers, joggers, etc.

Only about half of the hunters I see in the woods during modern have hunter orange on. It seems the farther you are from a road the less people where it.
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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #73 on: December 19, 2017, 04:06:19 PM »
Let me ask this question:  What is so wrong with the state letting the individual decide what color clothing to wear?

If someone wishes to risk wearing camo clothing and potentially getting accidentally shot, why should the government care?  Just about every state has hunter education requirements and they teach about how orange will help protect you from an accidental shooting, so why not let the individual make that decision?

 :dunno:

Because they want it to be the safest sport possible to continue garnering public support when such a small portion of the population hunts (less than 4% in WA). Pictures of little Timmy taken at the 6th grade Christmas play in a story about his demise at the hand of his father in the woods doesn't help our heritage. Along with all the other news which paints gun ownership in such a horrible light, it benefits us to keep the numbers of incidents/accidents as low as possible.

 :tup: I like that answer.  :tup:
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Re: Hunter Orange
« Reply #74 on: December 19, 2017, 04:23:34 PM »
What I find amusing about people refusing to wear hunter orange is the fact that so few hunters are aware that deer really cannot see orange.  The results of a lot of testing have proven that.  And, one color that they absolutely see best is blue.  How many deer hunters do you see every year hunting in blue jeans?  When I mention that fact to people I see wearing jeans in the field, the response is usually along the lines........"I've always worn blue jeans when I hunt and I've shot a lot of deer".
They may not see colors but they definetly pick out solids way easier than broken patterns.  When I do wear orange it’s only the camo orange, but if I kill something and it needs packed out, I put solid orange on it.
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