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Re: $425000
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2017, 04:24:37 PM »
wow, what a waste of money.  How about communicating with Wyoming, Montana or Idaho about wolves and saving that money? 
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« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2017, 04:25:53 PM »
Sad part is that this doesn't surprise me in the slightest. I would expect nothing less.
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Re: $425000
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2017, 04:28:45 PM »
waste...fraud...and abuse

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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2017, 04:33:27 PM »
That right there is what's got me wanting to spend less money on hunting in Washington and more money in other states. Next year I'll take the money I would've spent here and I'll spend it in Wyoming instead.

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Re: $425000
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2017, 05:12:18 PM »
Does anyone but me think she LAUGHS all the way to the bank.

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« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2017, 05:26:18 PM »
Does anyone but me think she LAUGHS all the way to the bank.

Nope,  she has seen the stupid sign on WDFW's forehead.

I went to one of her meetings, what a joke.

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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2017, 05:28:53 PM »
This surprised me...

Madden has won support from state Rep. Joel Kretz, R-Wauconda. Kretz, whose district includes most of the stateís wolves, said that before Madden the Wolf Advisory Groupís policies were strongly tilted toward urban viewpoints.

ďAnd we got out of it a really bad wolf plan,Ē he said. ďThe only progress Iíve seen with the (advisory group) has been since sheís been on it.


It is infuriating to see WDFW waste sportsmen's dollars on this issue.  Let the greenies and the cattlemen pay this bill if they want to...Hunters will probably never get a chance to harvest wolves in this state, they are not a game animal, and there are far better uses of that money.  I bet we could open a lot of private land to public hunting for $425k.
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« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2017, 05:44:46 PM »
The democrats love spending taxpayers money......................
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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2017, 05:50:03 PM »
The democrats love spending taxpayers money......................
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Re: $425000
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2017, 06:21:06 AM »
That right there is what's got me wanting to spend less money on hunting in Washington and more money in other states. Next year I'll take the money I would've spent here and I'll spend it in Wyoming instead.

I will not buy a hunting license here in Washington State, it's to expensive, the deer numbers are really low. I can buy a small game/big game license in New York and Pennsylvania for v$100 each and buy doe tags for $10 a piece.
There are so many deer there it makes this state a joke as far as deer numbers and game department management.
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« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2017, 07:21:05 AM »
I agree what a wast of money. But as far as saying Id never hunt in wa st is a bit much. Here you can shoot a mule deer, whitetail , blacktail or even an high bred deer, Rocky or Roosevelt elk. I guess its just a harder state to hunt for some people. But if your welling to get out of your truck and off the beaten path there is plenty of animals to hunt here. Do your homework and you can be successful year after year. Sorry for high jacking this thread. I do think our game department sucks, but will still hunt my home st. I can get my deer, elk, and bear  within 30 miles of my hse. So as far as costing to much, out of st tags and fuel are going to cost a lot more than the $200 bucks that I spend on my tags and lic . I still put in other states but only in the trophy areas so if I do get drawn I will be going after 350 plus bulls only. Just a different way at looking at things I guess. 
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Re: $425000
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2017, 07:26:24 AM »
Probably a family member or friend. Politics suck

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Re: $425000
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2017, 07:40:54 AM »
This surprised me...

Madden has won support from state Rep. Joel Kretz, R-Wauconda. Kretz, whose district includes most of the stateís wolves, said that before Madden the Wolf Advisory Groupís policies were strongly tilted toward urban viewpoints.

ďAnd we got out of it a really bad wolf plan,Ē he said. ďThe only progress Iíve seen with the (advisory group) has been since sheís been on it.


It is infuriating to see WDFW waste sportsmen's dollars on this issue.  Let the greenies and the cattlemen pay this bill if they want to...Hunters will probably never get a chance to harvest wolves in this state, they are not a game animal, and there are far better uses of that money.  I bet we could open a lot of private land to public hunting for $425k.

That surprised me too. So basically it says the WDFW leadership was so inept and tilted from the get go that this is "needed"?

We could change the thread title to 1.6 mill. Wow, a lot could be accomplished with that  :bash:

By mid-2019, the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife will have paid a consultant up to $1.6 million over four years to help it reconcile conflicting views on wolves, according to the consultantís contract.
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« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2017, 07:51:23 AM »
We should add up all of the real losses (depredation, weight loss and reproductive failure) add see if it reaches $1.6 million.  I can row in Kretz's boat, they have killed some wolves, but the boat is just to expensive. 

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Re: $425000
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2017, 09:12:09 AM »
Unf.rickin believable

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« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2017, 09:31:34 AM »
I donít know the laws but is there something in there that we could sue wdfg for gross negligence over spending money on non game animals? And this is just a waste. Having to hire someone to fix what they knew was a one sided affair to begin with. How are these people involved still employed?!?
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Re: $425000
« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2017, 09:43:19 AM »
I believe it has everything to do with the fact that most of Wdfw heads are anti hunting, it flows from the top all the way down.  Antiís support wolves, this all makes sense, insane!! 
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Re: $425000
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2017, 02:05:59 PM »
I find this hard to believe but I know that Joel Kretz has our back on wolves. He lives with them on a daily basis.

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« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2017, 07:49:46 PM »
I donít know the laws but is there something in there that we could sue wdfg for gross negligence over spending money on non game animals? And this is just a waste. Having to hire someone to fix what they knew was a one sided affair to begin with. How are these people involved still employed?!?

Maybe when it was WDFG, but not the politically correct bastion of liberal anti conservation that is WDFW. :bash:

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« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2017, 01:30:06 PM »
Get rid of Unsworth. I told you guys that he was a wolf lover from the get go. You thought I was crazy and Unsworth was the best thing for the state. Idaho hated him for being a wolf lover.
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« Reply #21 on: December 24, 2017, 06:58:38 PM »
Get rid of Unsworth. I told you guys that he was a wolf lover from the get go. You thought I was crazy and Unsworth was the best thing for the state. Idaho hated him for being a wolf lover.

 Hes not just a wolf lover. Hes bending over backwards to shut down fishing in this state. Hes great at ruining the outdoors for us sportsmen and women!

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Re: $425000
« Reply #22 on: December 24, 2017, 09:33:50 PM »
Let the mule deer lay to rest,for the love of the wolf.From the quick research I have done on the interwebs she has not resolved any wildlife conflicts with people ,these conflicts are job security for her. She is more of a mediator, that has her own ideas in mind of what conservation should be.She is a part of a non profit org. That cares as long as you pay or donate big dollars to the cause ,which is a huge joke and shows how much she really cares ,Basicly getting paid good money to push her agenda ,of tree hugging,and libral ideas.anyway enough bashing here :stirthepot:

Biggest waste of money I have ever seen is this why the price of tags etc. Keep going up ,makes me so 😠

And to pay for years in advance tells me , the fish is hooked and she reeling them in that we are resolving a conflict ,OMG.
Here a link to the non profit,jane goodall of the wolf conflict of washington

https://m.facebook.com/HumanWildlifeConflictCollaboration/

And a post from there Facebook that I never seen before.
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Re: $425000
« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2017, 09:50:46 PM »
Job security...along the lines of Al Gore, Jesse Jackson and other profiteers of social friction  :bash:


Keep the $425k WDFW,  and DO something more productive then giving away hard earned taxpayer money to one profiteer.   



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« Reply #24 on: December 24, 2017, 10:16:06 PM »
Job security...along the lines of Al Gore, Jesse Jackson and other profiteers of social friction  :bash:


Keep the $425k WDFW,  and DO something more productive then giving away hard earned taxpayer money to one profiteer.   



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Here's a link to listen on how she changes off topic of the wolf conflict when she talks about the conflict with wolves.
http://kuow.org/post/truth-behind-washingtons-wolf-conflict-larger-you-think

Better open up your wallets and settle in for the 20 year wolf conflict cause this lady plans on retirement with this one.

The fb pic I posted was before she became a conflict manager for wdfw I guess ,even though I don't think it matters .
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Re: $425000
« Reply #25 on: December 26, 2017, 07:41:16 PM »
Jesus H Christ! Looks like the crib notes of a schizophrenic. 4 freaking hundred thousand for that?

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Re: $425000
« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2017, 07:45:23 PM »
Exhibit A

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« Reply #27 on: December 26, 2017, 07:51:57 PM »
Exhibit B

Variables = talking out of my A$$ points


Variables variables variables how many variables does this hack need? Enough to woo the govt goons and rip off a half mil of our tax dollars I guess?

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« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2017, 07:34:58 AM »
Thank you for the audio, Ms. Madden should be paid by the UN.  She compared a few uncontrolled coddled predators to the conflict in the middle east.  YIKES.  The hook has been set deep and the WDFW will not get off easy.

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« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2017, 08:04:54 AM »
This is a wdfw issue.  They want the Wolves to do there job. 
Itís not about the politics.  Most people donít care, and a lot donít even know wolves are here!
The director continues to try to shut down fishing in every way.  Heís in way over his head and has been from the beginning.

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« Reply #30 on: December 27, 2017, 08:09:47 AM »
This really makes me mad, the way they are totally throwing away all this money. Like I said before, this is something that makes me want to drastically cut back on what I spend on hunting licenses in Washington state. Why should I support this obvious waste of money?

There's already too much money being wasted on wolves but then to spend another 1-1/2 million or so on one person to help with their meetings is ridiculous. There must be a WDFW employee with the skills and ability to do the same exact thing! This is unbelievably stupid!   :bash:

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« Reply #31 on: December 27, 2017, 08:46:35 AM »
I donít know the laws but is there something in there that we could sue wdfg for gross negligence over spending money on non game animals? And this is just a waste. Having to hire someone to fix what they knew was a one sided affair to begin with. How are these people involved still employed?!?
It is the Department of Fish and Wildlife, and no longer a Game Department since the 1980s. They are responsible for all wildlife, not just game animals.
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« Reply #32 on: December 27, 2017, 08:59:06 AM »
This really makes me mad, the way they are totally throwing away all this money. Like I said before, this is something that makes me want to drastically cut back on what I spend on hunting licenses in Washington state. Why should I support this obvious waste of money?

There's already too much money being wasted on wolves but then to spend another 1-1/2 million or so on one person to help with their meetings is ridiculous. There must be a WDFW employee with the skills and ability to do the same exact thing! This is unbelievably stupid!   :bash:

Every year it gets easier and easier to spend money out of state even as they increase their costs. Sorry state of affairs
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« Reply #33 on: December 27, 2017, 09:07:15 AM »
I donít know the laws but is there something in there that we could sue wdfg for gross negligence over spending money on non game animals? And this is just a waste. Having to hire someone to fix what they knew was a one sided affair to begin with. How are these people involved still employed?!?
It is the Department of Fish and Wildlife, and no longer a Game Department since the 1980s. They are responsible for all wildlife, not just game animals.
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« Reply #34 on: December 27, 2017, 09:11:35 AM »
This really makes me mad, the way they are totally throwing away all this money. Like I said before, this is something that makes me want to drastically cut back on what I spend on hunting licenses in Washington state. Why should I support this obvious waste of money?

There's already too much money being wasted on wolves but then to spend another 1-1/2 million or so on one person to help with their meetings is ridiculous. There must be a WDFW employee with the skills and ability to do the same exact thing! This is unbelievably stupid!   :bash:

Every year it gets easier and easier to spend money out of state even as they increase their costs. Sorry state of affairs

Yes, I was already considering only buying a small game license next year. The thought of this digusting waste of money makes the decision even easier. My daughter will soon be 12 and she's ready to hunt for the first time, so I'll probably be buying her at least a deer license. I can stay plenty busy just hunting waterfowl and coyotes myself, and taking my daughter deer hunting, and I'll only be giving the WDFW a fraction of what I normally would have. The rest of my money will be spent in Wyoming.

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« Reply #35 on: December 27, 2017, 11:29:24 AM »
She looks like a lady i saw last week living in a urine soaked cardboard box in Seattle under a bridge but was better dressed :chuckle:


09/22/17,  in her FB this fraud praise Conservation NW and Mitch Friedman and earlier Wayne Pacelle formerly of PETA

https://blog.humanesociety.org/wayne/2017/08/tamping-war-wolves.html?credit=mr_kf080717

anyone surprised PETA/HSUS and CNW are all being praised by this kook?

Would WDFW sign a contract with a vehement anti hunter?

On a side not my first encounter with PETA and Pacelle was in Sept 1992 in the opening of bow season in Montgomery County, MD. He and PETA were walking through the woods and harassing and threatening bow hunters and slashing the tires of hunting vehicles in the parking lot. Similar to the violent acts  by Mitch friedman of CNW.

just follow the money to see how much fraud and corruption these two organizations are ripping off the taxpayers and using that money in turn to end all sport hunting. They already succeeded in ending trapping and hound hunting.

Waiting for the usual apologists to come here and state what wonderful people they are and we just need to work with and trust them and that if they just want to end some forms of hunting it would be just fine.

Let the mule deer lay to rest,for the love of the wolf.From the quick research I have done on the interwebs she has not resolved any wildlife conflicts with people ,these conflicts are job security for her. She is more of a mediator, that has her own ideas in mind of what conservation should be.She is a part of a non profit org. That cares as long as you pay or donate big dollars to the cause ,which is a huge joke and shows how much she really cares ,Basicly getting paid good money to push her agenda ,of tree hugging,and libral ideas.anyway enough bashing here :stirthepot:

Biggest waste of money I have ever seen is this why the price of tags etc. Keep going up ,makes me so 😠

And to pay for years in advance tells me , the fish is hooked and she reeling them in that we are resolving a conflict ,OMG.
Here a link to the non profit,jane goodall of the wolf conflict of washington

https://m.facebook.com/HumanWildlifeConflictCollaboration/

And a post from there Facebook that I never seen before.
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Re: $425000
« Reply #36 on: December 28, 2017, 09:55:46 PM »
Good lord, put on a bra...make that a paper bag  :tup:

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« Reply #37 on: December 29, 2017, 03:47:51 PM »
Madden is the thin film of sugar coating a very bitter pill, swallow it right away and you might not know how bitter that pill was...but suck on the pill for a little while and the coating goes away and you're left with very bad taste in your mouth.   

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« Reply #38 on: December 29, 2017, 04:42:57 PM »
Repulsive waste of our money...$1000.00 per hour for leading a meeting in person?  And that nasty looking woman couldnít even brush her hair  :chuckle:
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