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Which non-.223 AR - convince me
« on: December 29, 2017, 12:42:33 PM »
I've got a lower receiver and want to order the rest of the parts before it's illegal.  I have a .556 and don't want another one.  What other caliber and why?  I've thought about 300 BK or one of the big 45 cals.  Not sure what to do.

Other factors:

1) I don't currently reload but may start.
2) I'm not concerned with it being a long range gun.  If I want a long range gun, I'll buy a bolt gun.
3) I like the idea of buying a silencer but am not sure I will. 

What would you all get?

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Re: Which non-.223 AR - convince me
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2017, 12:58:38 PM »
I love shooting my bland boring 308. Easy to load,  plenty of downrange power, easy enough to find components.
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Re: Which non-.223 AR - convince me
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2017, 01:04:15 PM »
.300 BLK

It's not a long range gun but works well out to 200+ yards
All you need is the upper, you can use your 556 lower, BCG, and mags
Works very well with a suppressor
reload or not, there is lots of ammo choices


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Re: Which non-.223 AR - convince me
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2017, 01:07:01 PM »
Sounds like he has another 15 sized receiver, not a 10 which the .308 would require.

A 6.5 Grendel might be fun, if reloading is a serious future consideration.

If just wanting OTC, maybe the .300 Blackout then...
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Re: Which non-.223 AR - convince me
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2017, 01:20:39 PM »
I've got a lower receiver and want to order the rest of the parts before it's illegal.
While having something built is always fun, during the Clinton era ban you could still purchase uppers and replacement parts.

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Re: Which non-.223 AR - convince me
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2017, 01:30:12 PM »
Good point on the ar 10...duh... :chuckle:

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Re: Which non-.223 AR - convince me
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2017, 01:32:00 PM »
I've got a lower receiver and want to order the rest of the parts before it's illegal.
While having something built is always fun, during the Clinton era ban you could still purchase uppers and replacement parts.

That was then.  Pretty sure they will have "learned from their mistakes" and the next go around will likely be all inclusive, no parts or pieces included in the ban.  Oh, and don't forget the 80% "Ghost gun" receivers and 30 round mag clips...

We all know how they like to "close loopholes" afterall.

Sadly, I believe it is coming, and when it hits the voter pamplet, it will be gone as sure as hound, baiting and leg hold traps. 
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Re: Which non-.223 AR - convince me
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2017, 01:34:48 PM »
6.5 Grendel is my all time favorite non 223/556.
I also love my 6x45 but really got to load those.
25x45 isnít to bad of round either.
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Re: Which non-.223 AR - convince me
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2017, 01:35:25 PM »
I would get a side charging 6.5 grendel.

Side chargers don't blow crap back in your face with a can on. The traditional charging handle and forward assist seem to make this more common. Additionally mounting a scope may be easier because you don't have to worry about the charging handle being in the way.

6.5 grendel
Good for everything from rockchucks coyotes deer antelope, or possibly bigger at close ranges.
Seems to be the accepted cool caliber for the platform so finding the kind of upper you want shouldn't kill the bank.
Ammo availability is important to me. I can appreciate reloading and you could argue that by playing with loads this may be a do it all caliber for this state. The fact that Hornady makes quality shooting ammo off the shelf for reasonable, combined with the fact you can purchase zinc coated steel cased ammo in bulk for cheap make it a winner.

If the military didn't have such huge stockpiles of 556 I bet they would transition to this caliber. I also think this is why many civilians like the caliber because  they can benifit from the improvements in the AR 15 platform but are not weighed down by a huge supply cache.

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Re: Which non-.223 AR - convince me
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2017, 01:38:04 PM »
6.5 Grendel is my all time favorite non 223/556.
I also love my 6x45 but really got to load those.
25x45 isnít to bad of round either.

I love mine. Talk to Biggerhammer.  :tup:
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Re: Which non-.223 AR - convince me
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2017, 02:16:22 PM »
Nobody is a fan of the 45 or 50 cal options?  Seems like those would work well as a close range deer gun.

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Re: Which non-.223 AR - convince me
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2017, 03:01:04 PM »
458 SOCOM.   

Basically a 45/70 in an AR platform. 

Could be fun. Or a great west side deer/elk/bear gun. 
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Re: Which non-.223 AR - convince me
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2017, 04:47:02 PM »
I went with the 300 Blackout. Ammo is easy to get. Subsonic ammo is readily available too, for when you get your suppressor. It took about a year to get government permission for the suppressor so donít wait.  :tup:

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Re: Which non-.223 AR - convince me
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2017, 06:39:36 PM »
6.5 Grendel is awesome!   :tup:

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Re: Which non-.223 AR - convince me
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2017, 08:01:43 PM »
I've got a Rock River Armory complete 458 SOCOM upper, never shot, with some virgin brass and maybe 60 rounds of live ammo. $900 TYD.
I could care less about what anybody says..............

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Re: Which non-.223 AR - convince me
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2017, 02:06:20 AM »
6.5 Grendel.


 
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Re: Which non-.223 AR - convince me
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2017, 06:32:02 AM »
I have a complete upper in 204. Never shot, only mounted. $700 TYD
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Re: Which non-.223 AR - convince me
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2017, 07:30:10 AM »
6.5 Grendel  Ballistics  Function

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Re: Which non-.223 AR - convince me
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2017, 08:54:18 AM »
My AR is in 20 Practical(20-223) and I have a Howa Mini in 6.5 Grendel(great dual purpose round), Rem 600 in 6x45.  I think you need to decide what your going to do with it.  If your going to shoot it a lot feeding a 458 can get spendy.  I think that anything on the 223/5.56 case is the most logical, 17 Practical, 20 Practical, 6x45 or 25/45(I've been shooting a 25-204 for 12 years in a bolt gun, too long for an AR).  The 300 BLK seems to be kind of a knitch gun if you want to do close in work suppressed but the rainbow trajectories kind of turn me off.
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Re: Which non-.223 AR - convince me
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2017, 10:28:44 AM »
You can read http://www.chuckhawks.com/ar-15_deer_cartridges.html
It will give you really good research information.

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Re: Which non-.223 AR - convince me
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2017, 11:26:47 AM »
6.5 Grendel.


 

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Re: Which non-.223 AR - convince me
« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2017, 11:50:47 AM »
The OP seems to maybe be steering toward larger calibers but what about a 22 Nosler? 

Biggerhammer built one not to long ago so he would likely be a good source for information on a 22 Nosler build.

With the OP not being a reloader, that will somewhat limit the options for any of the wildcats.

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Re: Which non-.223 AR - convince me
« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2017, 01:08:26 PM »
Ask yourself are you going to hunt deer with ,or bigger game.
I shot my deer with 25/45 this year so that's what I have been playing with.I have played with 300blk,and still have it,just always end going back to 25/45.

But other calibers if I wanted to build one today would be.
6/45.  -lots of bullet choices if you do reload
6.5 grendal.    -better for long range,but cost more different bolt and mag.
277 wolverine. - This is a new caliber,i think it is similar to 300blk ,but a 270 caliber bullet ,better than 300 blk.

300 blk is ok ,lots of bullet choices but is a 200 yard tool at best.

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Re: Which non-.223 AR - convince me
« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2017, 02:52:23 PM »
The OP seems to maybe be steering toward larger calibers but what about a 22 Nosler? 

Biggerhammer built one not to long ago so he would likely be a good source for information on a 22 Nosler build.

With the OP not being a reloader, that will somewhat limit the options for any of the wildcats.

 Better yet if staying small bore, 224 Valkyrie.   :tup:

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Re: Which non-.223 AR - convince me
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2018, 05:37:56 PM »
If reloading get 277 wolverine. Just needs a new barrel if switching from 223.

If not reloading get grendel.

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